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| robert.bell1@comcast.net 2006-06-28, 1:11 pm |
| Maybe I'm crazy, but we are upgrading out layer 2 infrastructure to cisco 3560 switches and the question was raised, what would that do to our Avaya VoIP solution (Please don't flame me, I have no choice over VoIP solutions). I'm much more familiar with
Cisco CallManager and CCME.
I got this crazy idea though: Why can't I make Avaya phones work with our CCME routers? I'm not really sure how they operate, but I assume they are similar to cisco phones. I think I found some firmware I have to push to them, but I have a few question
s:
1. Has anyone successfully done what I propose (Avaya IP phones working on a cisco VoIP network? And if so can I see your config files relevant to making that work.
2. Does anyone know the requirements for the Avaya IP phones? For instance, I know the cisco phones require the firmware to be downloaded and pulls the config from the router. It looks like the Avaya phones also need to pull the config as a file from a
tftp server, but I really don't know anything about Avaya VoIP. If anyone has a link to the basic requirements / operation I'd appreciate it. Oh, and FYI - I've got an Avaya 4606 phone to play with.
My basic goal was to make sure the phones were compatible with the PoE provided by the cisco 3560 switches (which it is) and to make sure that it would continue to work with the existing Avaya VoIP solution (which it will). I just thought it would be neat
to see them work integrated and possibly use SRST for remote survivability of our outsites using VoIP.
B.
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| Nick Marus 2006-06-28, 1:11 pm |
| I work for a company that deploys both avaya and cisco voip and we
have been asked to similar stuff. I have done the opposite, that is
getting a cisco phone with a sip image working on an avaya. For what
you want, as far as i know, this would require the Avaya phones to be
running the avaya sip image and you would need cm5 for sip phone set
support. I am wanting to lab up something similar myself using the
4610/4620's. The 4606 is an older avaya phone and may not support sip,
and I dont think it is being sold anymore. I cant recall tho.
For #2, cisco Phones use tftp just as avaya does. the server can be
anything that can do host tftp. Avaya's files are slightly differnt in
format, but essentially the same. A config file and a firmware load.
Avaya does require differnt dhcp options to tell the phone where the
tftp server is tho. cisco =150, avaya is 176 and uses a string that
includes several required options.
Everything between avaya and cisco can integrate (both directions) if
you use h323 on your cisco gateways. i have a callmanager that gets
trunks directly from an avaya s8700 with no external cisco gateway and
I have worked on some other sites that have avaya trunking to a cisco
h323 gateway.
Nick
On 6/28/06, robert.bell1@comcast.net <robert.bell1@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> Maybe I'm crazy, but we are upgrading out layer 2 infrastructure to Cisco
> 3560 switches and the question was raised, what would that do to our Avaya
> VoIP solution (Please don't flame me, I have no choice over VoIP solutions).
> I'm much more familiar with cisco CallManager and CCME.
>
>
>
> I got this crazy idea though: Why can't I make Avaya phones work with our
> CCME routers? I'm not really sure how they operate, but I assume they are
> similar to cisco phones. I think I found some firmware I have to push to
> them, but I have a few questions:
>
> 1. Has anyone successfully done what I propose (Avaya IP phones working on
> a cisco VoIP network? And if so can I see your config files relevant to
> making that work.
>
> 2. Does anyone know the requirements for the Avaya IP phones? For
> instance, I know the cisco phones require the firmware to be downloaded and
> pulls the config from the router. It looks like the Avaya phones also need
> to pull the config as a file from a tftp server, but I really don't know
> anything about Avaya VoIP. If anyone has a link to the basic requirements /
> operation I'd appreciate it. Oh, and FYI - I've got an Avaya 4606 phone to
> play with.
>
>
>
> My basic goal was to make sure the phones were compatible with the PoE
> provided by the cisco 3560 switches (which it is) and to make sure that it
> would continue to work with the existing Avaya VoIP solution (which it
> will). I just thought it would be neat to see them work integrated and
> possibly use SRST for remote survivability of our outsites using VoIP.
>
>
>
> B.
>
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nmarus@gmail.com
homepage: http://www.nicholasmarus.com
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| Jim McBurnett 2006-06-30, 1:11 am |
|
But does every Avaya phone support the SIP load?
SIP - CME 3.4 or 4.0
SIP trunks too, if Avaya supports it!
Thanks,
jim
-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Nick Marus
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 11:52 AM
To: robert.bell1@comcast.net
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] cisco & Avaya integration
I work for a company that deploys both avaya and cisco voip and we have
been asked to similar stuff. I have done the opposite, that is getting a
cisco phone with a sip image working on an avaya. For what you want, as
far as i know, this would require the Avaya phones to be running the
avaya sip image and you would need cm5 for sip phone set support. I am
wanting to lab up something similar myself using the 4610/4620's. The
4606 is an older avaya phone and may not support sip, and I dont think
it is being sold anymore. I cant recall tho.
For #2, cisco Phones use tftp just as avaya does. the server can be
anything that can do host tftp. Avaya's files are slightly differnt in
format, but essentially the same. A config file and a firmware load.
Avaya does require differnt dhcp options to tell the phone where the
tftp server is tho. cisco =150, avaya is 176 and uses a string that
includes several required options.
Everything between avaya and cisco can integrate (both directions) if
you use h323 on your cisco gateways. i have a callmanager that gets
trunks directly from an avaya s8700 with no external cisco gateway and I
have worked on some other sites that have avaya trunking to a cisco
h323 gateway.
Nick
On 6/28/06, robert.bell1@comcast.net <robert.bell1@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> Maybe I'm crazy, but we are upgrading out layer 2 infrastructure to
> cisco 3560 switches and the question was raised, what would that do to
> our Avaya VoIP solution (Please don't flame me, I have no choice over
VoIP solutions).
> I'm much more familiar with cisco CallManager and CCME.
>
>
>
> I got this crazy idea though: Why can't I make Avaya phones work with
> our CCME routers? I'm not really sure how they operate, but I assume
> they are similar to cisco phones. I think I found some firmware I
> have to push to them, but I have a few questions:
>
> 1. Has anyone successfully done what I propose (Avaya IP phones
> working on a cisco VoIP network? And if so can I see your config
> files relevant to making that work.
>
> 2. Does anyone know the requirements for the Avaya IP phones? For
> instance, I know the cisco phones require the firmware to be
> downloaded and pulls the config from the router. It looks like the
> Avaya phones also need to pull the config as a file from a tftp
> server, but I really don't know anything about Avaya VoIP. If anyone
> has a link to the basic requirements / operation I'd appreciate it.
> Oh, and FYI - I've got an Avaya 4606 phone to play with.
>
>
>
> My basic goal was to make sure the phones were compatible with the PoE
> provided by the cisco 3560 switches (which it is) and to make sure
> that it would continue to work with the existing Avaya VoIP solution
> (which it will). I just thought it would be neat to see them work
> integrated and possibly use SRST for remote survivability of our
outsites using VoIP.
>
>
>
> B.
>
> ________________________________________
_______
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>
>
>
--
Nick Marus
nmarus@gmail.com
homepage: http://www.nicholasmarus.com
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| Nick Marus 2006-06-30, 1:11 pm |
| Yes. You can get firmware to convert the phone to sip from Avaya.
On 6/29/06, Jim McBurnett <jim@tgasolutions.com> wrote:
>
> But does every Avaya phone support the SIP load?
>
>
> SIP - CME 3.4 or 4.0
>
> SIP trunks too, if Avaya supports it!
>
> Thanks,
> jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Nick Marus
> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 11:52 AM
> To: robert.bell1@comcast.net
> Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] cisco & Avaya integration
>
> I work for a company that deploys both avaya and cisco voip and we have
> been asked to similar stuff. I have done the opposite, that is getting a
> cisco phone with a sip image working on an avaya. For what you want, as
> far as i know, this would require the Avaya phones to be running the
> avaya sip image and you would need cm5 for sip phone set support. I am
> wanting to lab up something similar myself using the 4610/4620's. The
> 4606 is an older avaya phone and may not support sip, and I dont think
> it is being sold anymore. I cant recall tho.
>
> For #2, cisco Phones use tftp just as avaya does. the server can be
> anything that can do host tftp. Avaya's files are slightly differnt in
> format, but essentially the same. A config file and a firmware load.
> Avaya does require differnt dhcp options to tell the phone where the
> tftp server is tho. cisco =150, avaya is 176 and uses a string that
> includes several required options.
>
> Everything between avaya and cisco can integrate (both directions) if
> you use h323 on your cisco gateways. i have a callmanager that gets
> trunks directly from an avaya s8700 with no external cisco gateway and I
> have worked on some other sites that have avaya trunking to a cisco
> h323 gateway.
>
> Nick
>
> On 6/28/06, robert.bell1@comcast.net <robert.bell1@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> VoIP solutions).
>
>
> outsites using VoIP.
>
>
> --
>
> Nick Marus
> nmarus@gmail.com
> homepage: http://www.nicholasmarus.com
> ________________________________________
_______
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>
--
Nick Marus
nmarus@gmail.com
homepage: http://www.nicholasmarus.com
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