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| Hi All,
I'm hoping you can give me some tips on how to install CCM 5.0.2 or
5.0.3 on VMWare Server 1.0.0. I have uncessfully tried to install CCM
5.0.2.1000-3 and 5.0.3-1000-2. The installation appears to complete
properly but I get the following message when the server tries to restart:
" the installation has failed and must be restarted to recover from the
failure. You may dump diagnostic information at this time to a USB storage
key. Would you like to dump diagnostic information"
I have used the following settings for my Virtual Server
Guest Operating System = RedHat Enterprise Linux 4 (I have also tried RedHat
Enterprise Linux 3)
HardDisk = 20GB SCSI (I have also tried 20GB IDE)
Memory = 2048MB
Ethernet = Bridged
Processors = 1
Should I perhaps be using VMWare GSX?
Thanks,
Sergio
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| Jonathan Charles 2006-07-20, 1:13 am |
| First off, you need 72GB of HD.
Second, go here:
http://www.vmware.com/community/mes...essageID=399465
Third, good luck getting a license to make it all work... if you
figure this part out, share it with the group.
Jonathan
On 7/19/06, Serg <c719562@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
> I'm hoping you can give me some tips on how to install CCM 5.0.2 or
> 5.0.3 on VMWare Server 1.0.0. I have uncessfully tried to install CCM
> 5.0.2.1000-3 and 5.0.3-1000-2. The installation appears to complete
> properly but I get the following message when the server tries to restart:
>
> " the installation has failed and must be restarted to recover from the
> failure. You may dump diagnostic information at this time to a USB storage
> key. Would you like to dump diagnostic information"
>
> I have used the following settings for my Virtual Server
>
> Guest Operating System = RedHat Enterprise Linux 4 (I have also tried RedHat
> Enterprise Linux 3)
> HardDisk = 20GB SCSI (I have also tried 20GB IDE)
> Memory = 2048MB
> Ethernet = Bridged
> Processors = 1
>
> Should I perhaps be using VMWare GSX?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sergio
>
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| Ryan LaTorre 2006-07-21, 1:11 pm |
|
Tried that... I actually added 50 of each phone type that exists in CCM
4.1. You can edit the MAC in CCM5 without a license (so I have phones
registered using SCCP) but you can't add, delete, or convert to SIP
(which is effectively a delete/add operation).
CM5 licensing is something we'll just have to embrace. We'll be
purchasing the NFR, but I'm not sure how far that'll take us.
-Ryan
-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Charles [mailto:jonvoip@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 11:14 AM
To: Ryan LaTorre
Cc: Serg; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCM 5 on VMWare Server 1.0.0
Well, what you do is add a few hundred 7971s (or 7985s) before the
upgrade, and then delete them after.
But you didn't hear that from me.
Jonathan
On 7/20/06, Ryan LaTorre <rlatorre@unislumin.com> wrote:
>
> That's my challenge as well. Since the CCM5 install detects the VMWare
> environment and proactively warns the user about (lack of)
> supportability, you'd think it would be possible for cisco to provide
> some sort of automatic one-node/10 phone license when it runs on a
> VMWare system.
>
> One thing that might help is that if your CCM5 build is an upgrade of
> a CCM 4.x system (ie. using the DMA tool), the CallManager services
> and phones previously configured in CCM4 will activate and operate.
> You won't be able to actually add, delete, or convert a phone to SIP
> without a proper license, so I really haven't spent much time going
> any further in CCM5 at this time.
>
> For the other partners on the list, the NFR has been released.
>
> -Ryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan
> Charles
> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:36 PM
> To: Serg
> Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCM 5 on VMWare Server 1.0.0
>
> First off, you need 72GB of HD.
>
> Second, go here:
>
> http://www.vmware.com/community/mes...essageID=399465
>
> Third, good luck getting a license to make it all work... if you
> figure this part out, share it with the group.
>
>
>
> Jonathan
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| Ryan LaTorre 2006-07-21, 1:11 pm |
|
That's my challenge as well. Since the CCM5 install detects the VMWare
environment and proactively warns the user about (lack of)
supportability, you'd think it would be possible for cisco to provide
some sort of automatic one-node/10 phone license when it runs on a
VMWare system.
One thing that might help is that if your CCM5 build is an upgrade of a
CCM 4.x system (ie. using the DMA tool), the CallManager services and
phones previously configured in CCM4 will activate and operate. You
won't be able to actually add, delete, or convert a phone to SIP without
a proper license, so I really haven't spent much time going any further
in CCM5 at this time.
For the other partners on the list, the NFR has been released.
-Ryan
-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan
Charles
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:36 PM
To: Serg
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCM 5 on VMWare Server 1.0.0
First off, you need 72GB of HD.
Second, go here:
http://www.vmware.com/community/mes...essageID=399465
Third, good luck getting a license to make it all work... if you figure
this part out, share it with the group.
Jonathan
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| Nick Marus 2006-07-21, 1:11 pm |
| Your cisco team can provide you with demo licencing. It's a small
quanity, but works for a lab or customer demo.
Nick
On 7/19/06, Jonathan Charles <jonvoip@gmail.com> wrote:
> First off, you need 72GB of HD.
>
> Second, go here:
>
> http://www.vmware.com/community/mes...essageID=399465
>
> Third, good luck getting a license to make it all work... if you
> figure this part out, share it with the group.
>
>
>
> Jonathan
>
> On 7/19/06, Serg <c719562@gmail.com> wrote:
> ________________________________________
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| omar parihuana 2006-07-21, 1:11 pm |
| HI Guys...
Where Can I download CCM 5.0???
Rgds.
On 7/19/06, Serg <c719562@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
> I'm hoping you can give me some tips on how to install CCM 5.0.2 or
> 5.0.3 on VMWare Server 1.0.0. I have uncessfully tried to install CCM
> 5.0.2.1000-3 and 5.0.3-1000-2. The installation appears to complete
> properly but I get the following message when the server tries to restart:
>
> " the installation has failed and must be restarted to recover from the
> failure. You may dump diagnostic information at this time to a USB storage
> key. Would you like to dump diagnostic information"
>
> I have used the following settings for my Virtual Server
>
> Guest Operating System = RedHat Enterprise Linux 4 (I have also tried RedHat
> Enterprise Linux 3)
> HardDisk = 20GB SCSI (I have also tried 20GB IDE)
> Memory = 2048MB
> Ethernet = Bridged
> Processors = 1
>
> Should I perhaps be using VMWare GSX?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sergio
>
> ________________________________________
_______
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>
>
>
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| Jonathan Charles 2006-07-21, 1:11 pm |
| Well, what you do is add a few hundred 7971s (or 7985s) before the
upgrade, and then delete them after.
But you didn't hear that from me.
Jonathan
On 7/20/06, Ryan LaTorre <rlatorre@unislumin.com> wrote:
>
> That's my challenge as well. Since the CCM5 install detects the VMWare
> environment and proactively warns the user about (lack of)
> supportability, you'd think it would be possible for cisco to provide
> some sort of automatic one-node/10 phone license when it runs on a
> VMWare system.
>
> One thing that might help is that if your CCM5 build is an upgrade of a
> CCM 4.x system (ie. using the DMA tool), the CallManager services and
> phones previously configured in CCM4 will activate and operate. You
> won't be able to actually add, delete, or convert a phone to SIP without
> a proper license, so I really haven't spent much time going any further
> in CCM5 at this time.
>
> For the other partners on the list, the NFR has been released.
>
> -Ryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan
> Charles
> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:36 PM
> To: Serg
> Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCM 5 on VMWare Server 1.0.0
>
> First off, you need 72GB of HD.
>
> Second, go here:
>
> http://www.vmware.com/community/mes...essageID=399465
>
> Third, good luck getting a license to make it all work... if you figure
> this part out, share it with the group.
>
>
>
> Jonathan
> Attention:
>
> Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. Disclosure to any person other than the named recipient is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete all copies of this information and kindly notify the se
nder by reply email. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of UNIS LUMIN Inc. shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. UNIS LUMIN Inc. and any of its subsidiaries reserve
the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Thank you.
>
| |
| Andrew Riley 2006-07-26, 1:12 pm |
| I have got this running with VMware; mixed results running on VMWare
server under linux, however worked flawlessly under VMware workstation
on windows. Has anyone had documented success with this running on linux
(vmware server)?
Andrew Riley
Senior Systems Engineer
Alphawest Services Pty Ltd
T: (61 2) 9263 5669
F: (61 2) 9263 5889
www.alphawest.com.au
-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan
Charles
Sent: Friday, 21 July 2006 1:14 AM
To: Ryan LaTorre
Cc: Serg; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCM 5 on VMWare Server 1.0.0
Well, what you do is add a few hundred 7971s (or 7985s) before the
upgrade, and then delete them after.
But you didn't hear that from me.
Jonathan
On 7/20/06, Ryan LaTorre <rlatorre@unislumin.com> wrote:
>
> That's my challenge as well. Since the CCM5 install detects the VMWare
> environment and proactively warns the user about (lack of)
> supportability, you'd think it would be possible for cisco to provide
> some sort of automatic one-node/10 phone license when it runs on a
> VMWare system.
>
> One thing that might help is that if your CCM5 build is an upgrade of
a
> CCM 4.x system (ie. using the DMA tool), the CallManager services and
> phones previously configured in CCM4 will activate and operate. You
> won't be able to actually add, delete, or convert a phone to SIP
without
> a proper license, so I really haven't spent much time going any
further
> in CCM5 at this time.
>
> For the other partners on the list, the NFR has been released.
>
> -Ryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan
> Charles
> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:36 PM
> To: Serg
> Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCM 5 on VMWare Server 1.0.0
>
> First off, you need 72GB of HD.
>
> Second, go here:
>
> http://www.vmware.com/community/mes...essageID=399465
>
> Third, good luck getting a license to make it all work... if you
figure
> this part out, share it with the group.
>
>
>
> Jonathan
> Attention:
>
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| Goran Selthofer 2006-07-27, 1:11 pm |
| please share with us exact version of CCM5 which you made to work on VMWARE workstation...
thanks,
goran
Andrew Riley <Andrew.Riley@alphawest.com.au> wrote:
I have got this running with VMware; mixed results running on VMWare
server under linux, however worked flawlessly under VMware workstation
on windows. Has anyone had documented success with this running on linux
(vmware server)?
Andrew Riley
Senior Systems Engineer
Alphawest Services Pty Ltd
T: (61 2) 9263 5669
F: (61 2) 9263 5889
www.alphawest.com.au
-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan
Charles
Sent: Friday, 21 July 2006 1:14 AM
To: Ryan LaTorre
Cc: Serg; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCM 5 on VMWare Server 1.0.0
Well, what you do is add a few hundred 7971s (or 7985s) before the
upgrade, and then delete them after.
But you didn't hear that from me.
Jonathan
On 7/20/06, Ryan LaTorre wrote:
>
> That's my challenge as well. Since the CCM5 install detects the VMWare
> environment and proactively warns the user about (lack of)
> supportability, you'd think it would be possible for cisco to provide
> some sort of automatic one-node/10 phone license when it runs on a
> VMWare system.
>
> One thing that might help is that if your CCM5 build is an upgrade of
a
> CCM 4.x system (ie. using the DMA tool), the CallManager services and
> phones previously configured in CCM4 will activate and operate. You
> won't be able to actually add, delete, or convert a phone to SIP
without
> a proper license, so I really haven't spent much time going any
further
> in CCM5 at this time.
>
> For the other partners on the list, the NFR has been released.
>
> -Ryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan
> Charles
> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:36 PM
> To: Serg
> Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCM 5 on VMWare Server 1.0.0
>
> First off, you need 72GB of HD.
>
> Second, go here:
>
> http://www.vmware.com/community/mes...essageID=399465
>
> Third, good luck getting a license to make it all work... if you
figure
> this part out, share it with the group.
>
>
>
> Jonathan
> Attention:
>
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| Jonathan Charles 2006-07-27, 1:11 pm |
| I have had little or no problems installing CCM5 on VMWare... the
problem is licensing... cisco needs to release a demo license (5
phones, 2 nodes) for lab purposes (if they want anyone to even think
about deploying this thing).
Until we have completed lab testing (which we cannot do with 5), there
is no way in hell we will deploy it in our network.
Cisco's loss (our network has 240,000 users).
Jonathan
On 7/27/06, Goran Selthofer <selt9@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> please share with us exact version of CCM5 which you made to work on VMWARE
> workstation...
> thanks,
> goran
>
>
> Andrew Riley <Andrew.Riley@alphawest.com.au> wrote:
>
> I have got this running with VMware; mixed results running on VMWare
> server under linux, however worked flawlessly under VMware workstation
> on windows. Has anyone had documented success with this running on linux
> (vmware server)?
>
>
>
> Andrew Riley
> Senior Systems Engineer
> Alphawest Services Pty Ltd
> T: (61 2) 9263 5669
> F: (61 2) 9263 5889
> www.alphawest.com.au
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of
> Jonathan
> Charles
> Sent: Friday, 21 July 2006 1:14 AM
> To: Ryan LaTorre
> Cc: Serg; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCM 5 on VMWare Server 1.0.0
>
> Well, what you do is add a few hundred 7971s (or 7985s) before the
> upgrade, and then delete them after.
>
> But you didn't hear that from me.
>
> Jonathan
>
> On 7/20/06, Ryan LaTorre wrote:
> a
> without
> further
> Jonathan
> http://www.vmware.com/community/mes...essageID=399465
> figure
> Disclosure to any person other than the named recipient is unauthorized.
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| Ted Nugent 2006-07-27, 1:11 pm |
| I can't agree enough. We have at least 4 midsize
customers that are looking to migrate to CM5 however
we are very reluctant to perform any sort of migration
until we can get some sort of license for our lab.
We=92ve been around and around with our cisco SE=92s but
have yet to get a definitive answer. Cisco=92s pumped up
CM5 for all of our/their customers and are leaving
their partners asses in the wind on this. Very
frustrating! I can=92t imagine how much money they=92ve
lost already over something that seems to be a no
brainer!
--- Jonathan Charles <jonvoip@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have had little or no problems installing CCM5 on
> VMWare... the
> problem is licensing... cisco needs to release a
> demo license (5
> phones, 2 nodes) for lab purposes (if they want
> anyone to even think
> about deploying this thing).
> =
> Until we have completed lab testing (which we cannot
> do with 5), there
> is no way in hell we will deploy it in our network.
> =
> Cisco's loss (our network has 240,000 users).
> =
> =
> =
> =
> Jonathan
> =
> On 7/27/06, Goran Selthofer <selt9@yahoo.com> wrote:
> you made to work on VMWARE
> wrote:
> running on VMWare
> under VMware workstation
> this running on linux
> Behalf Of
> 1.0.0
> 7985s) before the
> install detects the VMWare
> (lack of)
> for cisco to provide
> when it runs on a
> build is an upgrade of
> CallManager services and
> activate and operate. You
> convert a phone to SIP
> time going any
> been released.
> Behalf Of
> 1.0.0
>
http://www.vmware.com/community/mes...sageID=3D399465
> all work... if you
> contained in this message.
> recipient is unauthorized.
> delete all copies of this
> email. Opinions,
> that do not relate to
> understood as neither
> of its subsidiaries
> communications through its
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| Jonathan Charles 2006-07-27, 7:11 pm |
| What's really stupid here is that they offer demo licenses for Unity,
IPCC, CiscoWorks (90 day), etc... Why not CCM5?
My guess is that cisco doesn't want anyone playing with it, so they
won't report back how buggy it is (come on guys, cisco has released
3.4GB of patches (on a 1.2GB install DVD) in the past three months..
That's very bad.
Jonathan
On 7/27/06, Ted Nugent <tednugent69@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I can't agree enough. We have at least 4 midsize
> customers that are looking to migrate to CM5 however
> we are very reluctant to perform any sort of migration
> until we can get some sort of license for our lab.
> We've been around and around with our cisco SE's but
> have yet to get a definitive answer. Cisco's pumped up
> CM5 for all of our/their customers and are leaving
> their partners asses in the wind on this. Very
> frustrating! I can't imagine how much money they've
> lost already over something that seems to be a no
> brainer!
>
> --- Jonathan Charles <jonvoip@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> http://www.vmware.com/community/mes...essageID=399465
>
>
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| Ryan LaTorre 2006-07-27, 7:11 pm |
|
Not to tow the cisco line too much, I would argue that the 3.4GB of
patches in three months is a good thing. cisco is undoubtedly dealing
with a large number of bugs, which should be expected of a new product.
Cisco has done their part to keep it on New Product Hold, primarily
approving lab deployments in which the real issues will be discovered.
The patches have come fast and furious which tells me they're feverishly
ramping up the stability.
Having said that, I agree with the demo licensing sentiments 100%.
There needs to be something readily available for partners and cisco SEs
to work with.
Demo licensing isn't my only concern though. Consider the operational
impact. The publisher hardware dies (somehow). An extra server is
brought into service to quickly replace it, but wait - to activate and
use it a special licensing request has to be fulfilled. I don't know how
long that takes, especially if it's 2am. Or replacing a subscriber with
new hardware - it may be advantageous to build a new server with a new
entity, add it into the cluster, and subsequently remove the existing
one a few days later. This will no longer be possible.
I understand the need for licensing, but the operational impact has to
also be considered and some flexibility built-in.
-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan
Charles
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 2:17 PM
To: Ted Nugent
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net; Serg; Andrew Riley
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCM 5 on VMWare Server 1.0.0
What's really stupid here is that they offer demo licenses for Unity,
IPCC, CiscoWorks (90 day), etc... Why not CCM5?
My guess is that cisco doesn't want anyone playing with it, so they
won't report back how buggy it is (come on guys, cisco has released
3.4GB of patches (on a 1.2GB install DVD) in the past three months..
That's very bad.
Jonathan
On 7/27/06, Ted Nugent <tednugent69@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I can't agree enough. We have at least 4 midsize customers that are
> looking to migrate to CM5 however we are very reluctant to perform any
> sort of migration until we can get some sort of license for our lab.
> We've been around and around with our cisco SE's but have yet to get a
[vbcol=seagreen]
> definitive answer. Cisco's pumped up
> CM5 for all of our/their customers and are leaving their partners
> asses in the wind on this. Very frustrating! I can't imagine how much
> money they've lost already over something that seems to be a no
> brainer!
>
> --- Jonathan Charles <jonvoip@gmail.com> wrote:
>
[vbcol=seagreen]
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| Ted Nugent 2006-07-27, 7:11 pm |
| Right on with the hardware failure deal scenario...
emailing licensing and waiting for someone in RTP or
SJ to come on shift is unacceptable. During working
hours in the states turn around is pretty quick but
I've found that APT and EMEA are good at "AVVID" TAC
but licensing is non-existent! I had the exact
scenario you mentioned with Unity at 1am Eastern US
time and had to wait until 8:30am the next day to get
a .lic file! The customer was furious because they
fronted most of their calls through a unity AA. The HP
guy was there to replace the motherboard within 3
hours as contracted but we had to wait an additional 4
hours for a new .lic file. And yes I did try calling
in a P1 but no one could and/or knew how to help.
That=92s Unity=85 now if you have the same problem with
your CM Cluster its Goodbye cisco and Hello Avaya for
your customer.
--- Ryan LaTorre <rlatorre@unislumin.com> wrote:
> =
> Not to tow the cisco line too much, I would argue
> that the 3.4GB of
> patches in three months is a good thing. cisco is
> undoubtedly dealing
> with a large number of bugs, which should be
> expected of a new product.
> cisco has done their part to keep it on New Product
> Hold, primarily
> approving lab deployments in which the real issues
> will be discovered.
> The patches have come fast and furious which tells
> me they're feverishly
> ramping up the stability.
> =
> Having said that, I agree with the demo licensing
> sentiments 100%.
> There needs to be something readily available for
> partners and cisco SEs
> to work with.
> =
> Demo licensing isn't my only concern though.
> Consider the operational
> impact. The publisher hardware dies (somehow). An
> extra server is
> brought into service to quickly replace it, but wait
> - to activate and
> use it a special licensing request has to be
> fulfilled. I don't know how
> long that takes, especially if it's 2am. Or
> replacing a subscriber with
> new hardware - it may be advantageous to build a new
> server with a new
> entity, add it into the cluster, and subsequently
> remove the existing
> one a few days later. This will no longer be
> possible.
> =
> I understand the need for licensing, but the
> operational impact has to
> also be considered and some flexibility built-in.
> =
> =
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On
> Behalf Of Jonathan
> Charles
> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 2:17 PM
> To: Ted Nugent
> Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net; Serg; Andrew Riley
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCM 5 on VMWare Server
> 1.0.0
> =
> What's really stupid here is that they offer demo
> licenses for Unity,
> IPCC, CiscoWorks (90 day), etc... Why not CCM5?
> =
> My guess is that cisco doesn't want anyone playing
> with it, so they
> won't report back how buggy it is (come on guys,
> cisco has released
> 3.4GB of patches (on a 1.2GB install DVD) in the
> past three months..
> =
> That's very bad.
> =
> =
> =
> Jonathan
> =
> On 7/27/06, Ted Nugent <tednugent69@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> customers that are =
> reluctant to perform any
> =
> license for our lab.
> but have yet to get a
> =
> their partners =
> can't imagine how much =
> seems to be a no =
> on VMWare... the =
> demo license (5 =
> anyone to even think
> =
> cannot do with 5), =
> network.
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| Ryan Ratliff 2006-07-28, 1:11 am |
| Not to sidetrack the thread but in that case I'd be changing the mac =
on the Unity server.
-Ryan
On Jul 27, 2006, at 3:48 PM, Ted Nugent wrote:
Right on with the hardware failure deal scenario...
emailing licensing and waiting for someone in RTP or
SJ to come on shift is unacceptable. During working
hours in the states turn around is pretty quick but
I've found that APT and EMEA are good at "AVVID" TAC
but licensing is non-existent! I had the exact
scenario you mentioned with Unity at 1am Eastern US
time and had to wait until 8:30am the next day to get
a .lic file! The customer was furious because they
fronted most of their calls through a unity AA. The HP
guy was there to replace the motherboard within 3
hours as contracted but we had to wait an additional 4
hours for a new .lic file. And yes I did try calling
in a P1 but no one could and/or knew how to help.
That=92s Unity=85 now if you have the same problem with
your CM Cluster its Goodbye cisco and Hello Avaya for
your customer.
--- Ryan LaTorre <rlatorre@unislumin.com> wrote:
>
> Not to tow the cisco line too much, I would argue
> that the 3.4GB of
> patches in three months is a good thing. cisco is
> undoubtedly dealing
> with a large number of bugs, which should be
> expected of a new product.
> cisco has done their part to keep it on New Product
> Hold, primarily
> approving lab deployments in which the real issues
> will be discovered.
> The patches have come fast and furious which tells
> me they're feverishly
> ramping up the stability.
>
> Having said that, I agree with the demo licensing
> sentiments 100%.
> There needs to be something readily available for
> partners and cisco SEs
> to work with.
>
> Demo licensing isn't my only concern though.
> Consider the operational
> impact. The publisher hardware dies (somehow). An
> extra server is
> brought into service to quickly replace it, but wait
> - to activate and
> use it a special licensing request has to be
> fulfilled. I don't know how
> long that takes, especially if it's 2am. Or
> replacing a subscriber with
> new hardware - it may be advantageous to build a new
> server with a new
> entity, add it into the cluster, and subsequently
> remove the existing
> one a few days later. This will no longer be
> possible.
>
> I understand the need for licensing, but the
> operational impact has to
> also be considered and some flexibility built-in.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On
> Behalf Of Jonathan
> Charles
> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 2:17 PM
> To: Ted Nugent
> Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net; Serg; Andrew Riley
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCM 5 on VMWare Server
> 1.0.0
>
> What's really stupid here is that they offer demo
> licenses for Unity,
> IPCC, CiscoWorks (90 day), etc... Why not CCM5?
>
> My guess is that cisco doesn't want anyone playing
> with it, so they
> won't report back how buggy it is (come on guys,
> cisco has released
> 3.4GB of patches (on a 1.2GB install DVD) in the
> past three months..
>
> That's very bad.
>
>
>
> Jonathan
>
> On 7/27/06, Ted Nugent <tednugent69@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> customers that are
> reluctant to perform any
>
> license for our lab.
> but have yet to get a
>
> their partners
> can't imagine how much
> seems to be a no
> on VMWare... the
> demo license (5
> anyone to even think
>
> cannot do with 5),
> network.
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>
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| Ted Nugent 2006-07-28, 1:11 am |
| Thanks Ryan...
No.. perfect sidetrack and good point...! and actually
the customer came up with that idea before I did :-(.
But it was an older DL380-G2 and the HP dude informed
us that this could not be done on that vintage
server?? I remember doing this on IBM NICs and laptops
years ago so I could not beleive it wasn't an option.
I've honestly not had to do that before on an HP MCS
server myself but you can do it via the HP foundation
CDs??
--- Ryan Ratliff <rratliff@cisco.com> wrote:
> Not to sidetrack the thread but in that case I'd be
> changing the mac =
> on the Unity server.
> =
> -Ryan
> =
> On Jul 27, 2006, at 3:48 PM, Ted Nugent wrote:
> =
> Right on with the hardware failure deal scenario...
> emailing licensing and waiting for someone in RTP or
> SJ to come on shift is unacceptable. During working
> hours in the states turn around is pretty quick but
> I've found that APT and EMEA are good at "AVVID" TAC
> but licensing is non-existent! I had the exact
> scenario you mentioned with Unity at 1am Eastern US
> time and had to wait until 8:30am the next day to
> get
> a .lic file! The customer was furious because they
> fronted most of their calls through a unity AA. The
> HP
> guy was there to replace the motherboard within 3
> hours as contracted but we had to wait an additional
> 4
> hours for a new .lic file. And yes I did try calling
> in a P1 but no one could and/or knew how to help.
> That=92s Unity=85 now if you have the same problem with
> your CM Cluster its Goodbye cisco and Hello Avaya
> for
> your customer.
> =
> --- Ryan LaTorre <rlatorre@unislumin.com> wrote:
> =
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| Ryan Ratliff 2006-07-28, 1:11 pm |
| I'd just go into the nic properties in Windows and change it there. =
I've never actually tried it with Unity for licensing purposes but =
that's the only place I'd know to change a mac addr.
-Ryan
On Jul 27, 2006, at 11:43 PM, Ted Nugent wrote:
Thanks Ryan...
No.. perfect sidetrack and good point...! and actually
the customer came up with that idea before I did :-(.
But it was an older DL380-G2 and the HP dude informed
us that this could not be done on that vintage
server?? I remember doing this on IBM NICs and laptops
years ago so I could not beleive it wasn't an option.
I've honestly not had to do that before on an HP MCS
server myself but you can do it via the HP foundation
CDs??
--- Ryan Ratliff <rratliff@cisco.com> wrote:
> Not to sidetrack the thread but in that case I'd be
> changing the mac
> on the Unity server.
>
> -Ryan
>
> On Jul 27, 2006, at 3:48 PM, Ted Nugent wrote:
>
> Right on with the hardware failure deal scenario...
> emailing licensing and waiting for someone in RTP or
> SJ to come on shift is unacceptable. During working
> hours in the states turn around is pretty quick but
> I've found that APT and EMEA are good at "AVVID" TAC
> but licensing is non-existent! I had the exact
> scenario you mentioned with Unity at 1am Eastern US
> time and had to wait until 8:30am the next day to
> get
> a .lic file! The customer was furious because they
> fronted most of their calls through a unity AA. The
> HP
> guy was there to replace the motherboard within 3
> hours as contracted but we had to wait an additional
> 4
> hours for a new .lic file. And yes I did try calling
> in a P1 but no one could and/or knew how to help.
> That=92s Unity=85 now if you have the same problem with
> your CM Cluster its Goodbye cisco and Hello Avaya
> for
> your customer.
>
> --- Ryan LaTorre <rlatorre@unislumin.com> wrote:
>
> Product
> wait
> new
> leaving
> contained
> relate
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> reserve
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| Israel Lang 2006-07-28, 1:11 pm |
| From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_address
Under Windows XP <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP>, the MAC address
can be changed in the Ethernet adapter's Properties menu, in the Advanced
tab, as "MAC Address", "Locally Administered Address", "Ethernet Address",
"Physical Address" or "Network Address". The exact name depends on the
Ethernet driver used; not all drivers support changing the MAC address in
this way.
However, a better solution - requiring Administrative User Rights - is to
pass over the System Registry Keys under
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControl
Set\Control\Class\{4D36E972-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}.
Here settings for each network interface can be found. The contents of the
string value called 'NetworkAddress' will be used to set the MAC address of
the adapter when next it is enabled. Resetting the adapter can be
accomplished in script with the freely available command line utility
devcon<http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...b;EN-US;Q311272>from
Microsoft, or from the adapters context menu in the Network
Connections
control panel applet.
There is a FREEWARE tool called Technitium MAC Address Changer v3.1
(FREEWARE)<http://www.technitium.com/software/...anger_v3.1.html>which
allows you to change MAC address of your network interface card (NIC)
in seconds, irrespective of its driver or manufacturer.
Note: to check your MAC address easily under Windows NT4, Windows 2000 or
Windows XP: Click "Start", choose "Run...", type CMD and click OK, then type
ipconfig /all in the Command Prompt window that appears. The number under
physical address is the MAC address. If multiple IP are displayed, you
should look under the label "Ethernet adapter x", where x is the name of
your connection (which is Local Area Connection by default).
On 7/27/06, Ted Nugent <tednugent69@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Ryan...
> No.. perfect sidetrack and good point...! and actually
> the customer came up with that idea before I did :-(.
> But it was an older DL380-G2 and the HP dude informed
> us that this could not be done on that vintage
> server?? I remember doing this on IBM NICs and laptops
> years ago so I could not beleive it wasn't an option.
> I've honestly not had to do that before on an HP MCS
> server myself but you can do it via the HP foundation
> CDs??
>
>
> --- Ryan Ratliff <rratliff@cisco.com> wrote:
>
>
>
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| Jonathan Charles 2006-07-28, 1:11 pm |
| All of this is kind of cool, however, there is no such method for changing
the MAC in Linux for CCM5. Especially in VMWare, which only permits slight
alterations in MAC address.
I actually do have a demo license for CCM5 from my old job, but I cannot
alter the MAC to make the license work (as I have on my lab Unity).
One possibility is a dedicated box for CCM5, and change the BIA on the
ethernet the old fashioned way (via DOS)... but I don't want to dedicate
that kind of hardware to this just yet.
I have an ESX server at work, but I will run into the same problem.
Jonathan
On 7/28/06, Israel Lang <zephy316@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_address
>
>
> Under Windows XP <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP>, the MAC
> address can be changed in the Ethernet adapter's Properties menu, in the
> Advanced tab, as "MAC Address", "Locally Administered Address", "Ethernet
> Address", "Physical Address" or "Network Address". The exact name dependson
> the Ethernet driver used; not all drivers support changing the MAC address
> in this way.
>
> However, a better solution - requiring Administrative User Rights - is to
> pass over the System Registry Keys under
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControl
Set\Control\Class\{4D36E972-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}.
> Here settings for each network interface can be found. The contents of the
> string value called 'NetworkAddress' will be used to set the MAC address of
> the adapter when next it is enabled. Resetting the adapter can be
> accomplished in script with the freely available command line utility
> devcon <http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...b;EN-US;Q311272>from Microsoft, or from the adapters context menu in the Network Connections
> control panel applet.
>
> There is a FREEWARE tool called Technitium MAC Address Changer v3.1
> (FREEWARE)<http://www.technitium.com/software/...anger_v3.1.html>which allows you to change MAC address of your network interface card (NIC)
> in seconds, irrespective of its driver or manufacturer.
>
> Note: to check your MAC address easily under Windows NT4, Windows 2000 or
> Windows XP: Click "Start", choose "Run...", type CMD and click OK, then type
> ipconfig /all in the Command Prompt window that appears. The number under
> physical address is the MAC address. If multiple IP are displayed, you
> should look under the label "Ethernet adapter x", where x is the name of
> your connection (which is Local Area Connection by default).
>
>
> On 7/27/06, Ted Nugent <tednugent69@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> --
> Have a great day!!!!!!!!!!
> zephy316_gmail.com
>
> Replace the _ with an @ symbol
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| Philip Walenta 2006-07-28, 1:11 pm |
| While this is true for XP (and 2000), there would be an issue for CCM 5.
You don't really get OS access.
Do you think cisco would support running the stop/start commands and
ifconfig from and end user perspective? Or even asking them to dial into
the server and change the MAC for you?
What interests me most is why the licensing server was added now, with the
Linux version, and not way earlier. MS is way more touchy about giving away
free licences (how many lab CCM's have a pile of devices on them with out
valid OS/SQL licensing?). While I can't blame cisco for going to this
model, I can question the timing, and the way in which it is done.
A demo license (I would say 30 devices in all including the built-in stuff),
would be the best way to go.
But when was the last time cisco actually listened to its customer base?
(sorry for the caustic comment cisco guys, I know all of you and know how
much you bust your butts and the frustrations even you folks have getting
things done internally, this isn't directed at you, it is directed at those
higher up the chain that for the last 6 years of voice products just don't
seem to listen much).
_____
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[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Israel Lang
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 8:30 AM
To: Ted Nugent
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCM 5 on VMWare Server 1.0.0
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_address
Under Windows XP <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP> , the MAC address
can be changed in the Ethernet adapter's Properties menu, in the Advanced
tab, as "MAC Address", "Locally Administered Address", "Ethernet Address",
"Physical Address" or "Network Address". The exact name depends on the
Ethernet driver used; not all drivers support changing the MAC address in
this way.
However, a better solution - requiring Administrative User Rights - is to
pass over the System Registry Keys under
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControl
Set\Control\Class\{4D36E972-E325-11C
E-BFC1-08002BE10318}. Here settings for each network interface can be found.
The contents of the string value called 'NetworkAddress' will be used to set
the MAC address of the adapter when next it is enabled. Resetting the
adapter can be accomplished in script with the freely available command line
utility devcon
<http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...b;EN-US;Q311272> from
Microsoft, or from the adapters context menu in the Network Connections
control panel applet.
There is a FREEWARE tool called Technitium
<http://www.technitium.com/software/...anger_v3.1.html>
MAC Address Changer v3.1 (FREEWARE) which allows you to change MAC address
of your network interface card (NIC) in seconds, irrespective of its driver
or manufacturer.
Note: to check your MAC address easily under Windows NT4, Windows 2000 or
Windows XP: Click "Start", choose "Run...", type CMD and click OK, then type
ipconfig /all in the Command Prompt window that appears. The number under
physical address is the MAC address. If multiple IP are displayed, you
should look under the label "Ethernet adapter x", where x is the name of
your connection (which is Local Area Connection by default).
On 7/27/06, Ted Nugent <tednugent69@yahoo.com> wrote:
Thanks Ryan...
No.. perfect sidetrack and good point...! and actually
the customer came up with that idea before I did :-(.
But it was an older DL380-G2 and the HP dude informed
us that this could not be done on that vintage
server?? I remember doing this on IBM NICs and laptops
years ago so I could not beleive it wasn't an option.
I've honestly not had to do that before on an HP MCS
server myself but you can do it via the HP foundation
CDs??
--- Ryan Ratliff <rratliff@cisco.com> wrote:
> Not to sidetrack the thread but in that case I'd be
> changing the mac
> on the Unity server.
>
> -Ryan
>
> On Jul 27, 2006, at 3:48 PM, Ted Nugent wrote:
>
> Right on with the hardware failure deal scenario...
> emailing licensing and waiting for someone in RTP or
> SJ to come on shift is unacceptable. During working
> hours in the states turn around is pretty quick but
> I've found that APT and EMEA are good at "AVVID" TAC
> but licensing is non-existent! I had the exact
> scenario you mentioned with Unity at 1am Eastern US
> time and had to wait until 8:30am the next day to
> get
> a .lic file! The customer was furious because they
> fronted most of their calls through a unity AA. The
> HP
> guy was there to replace the motherboard within 3
> hours as contracted but we had to wait an additional
> 4
> hours for a new .lic file. And yes I did try calling
> in a P1 but no one could and/or knew how to help.
> That's Unity. now if you have the same problem with
> your CM Cluster its Goodbye cisco and Hello Avaya
> for
> your customer.
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| Ted Nugent 2006-07-28, 1:11 pm |
| Thanks for explaining what a MAC address is Isreal...
However I think that the real question is whether
Unity/CM5(Linux??) uses the "logical" registry value
or if it looks at the BIA (Burned-In Address),
typically if this can be changed it can only be
changed at the BIOS level or using a diagnostic
utility. I vaguely remember from some Unity class, way
back when, that Unity locks in on the BIA and not
logical address in the registry. Has anyone tried just
changing the registry value or the linux equivalent?
Thanks
--- Israel Lang <zephy316@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_address
> =
> =
> Under Windows XP
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP>, the MAC
> address
> can be changed in the Ethernet adapter's Properties
> menu, in the Advanced
> tab, as "MAC Address", "Locally Administered
> Address", "Ethernet Address",
> "Physical Address" or "Network Address". The exact
> name depends on the
> Ethernet driver used; not all drivers support
> changing the MAC address in
> this way.
> =
> However, a better solution - requiring
> Administrative User Rights - is to
> pass over the System Registry Keys under
>
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControl
Set\Control\Class\{4D36E972-E325-11=
CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}.
> Here settings for each network interface can be
> found. The contents of the
> string value called 'NetworkAddress' will be used to
> set the MAC address of
> the adapter when next it is enabled. Resetting the
> adapter can be
> accomplished in script with the freely available
> command line utility
>
devcon<http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...b;EN-US;Q311272>fr=
om
> Microsoft, or from the adapters context menu in the
> Network
> Connections
> control panel applet.
> =
> There is a FREEWARE tool called Technitium MAC
> Address Changer v3.1
>
(FREEWARE)<http://www.technitium.com/software/...1/mac_changer_=
v3.1.html>which
> allows you to change MAC address of your network
> interface card (NIC)
> in seconds, irrespective of its driver or
> manufacturer.
> =
> Note: to check your MAC address easily under Windows
> NT4, Windows 2000 or
> Windows XP: Click "Start", choose "Run...", type CMD
> and click OK, then type
> ipconfig /all in the Command Prompt window that
> appears. The number under
> physical address is the MAC address. If multiple IP
> are displayed, you
> should look under the label "Ethernet adapter x",
> where x is the name of
> your connection (which is Local Area Connection by
> default).
> =
> =
> On 7/27/06, Ted Nugent <tednugent69@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> actually
> :-(.
> informed
> laptops
> option.
> MCS
> foundation
> be
> scenario...
> RTP or
> working
> but
> TAC
> US
> to
> they
> The
> 3
> additional
> calling
> help.
> with
> Avaya
> argue
[vbcol=seagreen]
> cisco is
> issues
> tells
> licensing
> for
> An
> but
> a
> subsequently
> built-in.
> Riley
> Server
> demo
> =
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| Philip Walenta 2006-07-28, 1:11 pm |
| >From experience, the OS seems to use the LAA (Locally Administered Address)
by default. If memory serves there is a way to get it to use the BIA.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ted Nugent
> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 8:54 AM
> To: Israel Lang
> Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCM 5 on VMWare Server 1.0.0
>
> Thanks for explaining what a MAC address is Isreal...
> However I think that the real question is whether
> Unity/CM5(Linux??) uses the "logical" registry value or if it
> looks at the BIA (Burned-In Address), typically if this can
> be changed it can only be changed at the BIOS level or using
> a diagnostic utility. I vaguely remember from some Unity
> class, way back when, that Unity locks in on the BIA and not
> logical address in the registry. Has anyone tried just
> changing the registry value or the linux equivalent?
> Thanks
>
>
> --- Israel Lang <zephy316@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> support changing
> Rights - is
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControl
Set\Control\Class\{4D3
> 6E972-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}.
> contents of
> set the MAC
> the adapter
> command line
> devcon<http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US
> ;Q311272>from
> (FREEWARE)<http://www.technitium.com/software/mac_changer_v3.1
> /mac_changer_v3.1.html>which
> card (NIC)
> Windows 2000
> click OK,
> appears. The
> multiple IP are
> adapter x", where
> remember
> of a new
> fulfilled. I don't
> replacing
> advantageous to build
> operational impact
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| Matt Slaga \(US\) 2006-07-28, 1:11 pm |
| With Unity, you could change the MAC under the Network Adapter settings
in windows (advanced tab).
-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Philip Walenta
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 10:00 AM
To: 'Ted Nugent'; 'Israel Lang'
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCM 5 on VMWare Server 1.0.0
>From experience, the OS seems to use the LAA (Locally Administered
Address)
by default. If memory serves there is a way to get it to use the BIA.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ted Nugent
> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 8:54 AM
> To: Israel Lang
> Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCM 5 on VMWare Server 1.0.0
>
> Thanks for explaining what a MAC address is Isreal...
> However I think that the real question is whether
> Unity/CM5(Linux??) uses the "logical" registry value or if it
> looks at the BIA (Burned-In Address), typically if this can
> be changed it can only be changed at the BIOS level or using
> a diagnostic utility. I vaguely remember from some Unity
> class, way back when, that Unity locks in on the BIA and not
> logical address in the registry. Has anyone tried just
> changing the registry value or the linux equivalent?
> Thanks
>
>
> --- Israel Lang <zephy316@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> support changing
> Rights - is
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControl
Set\Control\Class\{4D3
> 6E972-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}.
> contents of
> set the MAC
> the adapter
> command line
> devcon<http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US
> ;Q311272>from
> (FREEWARE)<http://www.technitium.com/software/mac_changer_v3.1
> /mac_changer_v3.1.html>which
> card (NIC)
> Windows 2000
> click OK,
> appears. The
> multiple IP are
> adapter x", where
> remember
> of a new
> fulfilled. I don't
> replacing
> advantageous to build
> operational impact
> === message truncated ===>
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| Ted Nugent 2006-07-28, 1:11 pm |
| Sorry Israel
I discounted your post as a primer in layer2
addressing. However I tried the info and the tool you
provided in the link below and spoofing the logical
MAC as outlined does in fact allow you to use the a
different .lic file in Unity. So I would also guess
that changing the MAC under the advanced setting on
the NIC also works as Ryan and others outlined. I wish
I had known this a year ago when I had that issue with
unity licensing. Now the question remain can this also
be done in a Linux environment for CM5 with the
appliance model and lack of OS access. That would
certainly alleviate the hardware failure concerns with
CM5. =
--- Israel Lang <zephy316@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_address
> =
> =
> Under Windows XP
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP>, the MAC
> address
> can be changed in the Ethernet adapter's Properties
> menu, in the Advanced
> tab, as "MAC Address", "Locally Administered
> Address", "Ethernet Address",
> "Physical Address" or "Network Address". The exact
> name depends on the
> Ethernet driver used; not all drivers support
> changing the MAC address in
> this way.
> =
> However, a better solution - requiring
> Administrative User Rights - is to
> pass over the System Registry Keys under
>
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControl
Set\Control\Class\{4D36E972-E325-11=
CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}.
> Here settings for each network interface can be
> found. The contents of the
> string value called 'NetworkAddress' will be used to
> set the MAC address of
> the adapter when next it is enabled. Resetting the
> adapter can be
> accomplished in script with the freely available
> command line utility
>
devcon<http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...b;EN-US;Q311272>fr=
om
> Microsoft, or from the adapters context menu in the
> Network
> Connections
> control panel applet.
> =
> There is a FREEWARE tool called Technitium MAC
> Address Changer v3.1
>
(FREEWARE)<http://www.technitium.com/software/...1/mac_changer_=
v3.1.html>which
> allows you to change MAC address of your network
> interface card (NIC)
> in seconds, irrespective of its driver or
> manufacturer.
> =
> Note: to check your MAC address easily under Windows
> NT4, Windows 2000 or
> Windows XP: Click "Start", choose "Run...", type CMD
> and click OK, then type
> ipconfig /all in the Command Prompt window that
> appears. The number under
> physical address is the MAC address. If multiple IP
> are displayed, you
> should look under the label "Ethernet adapter x",
> where x is the name of
> your connection (which is Local Area Connection by
> default).
> =
> =
> On 7/27/06, Ted Nugent <tednugent69@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> actually
> :-(.
> informed
> laptops
> option.
> MCS
> foundation
> be
> scenario...
> RTP or
> working
> but
> TAC
> US
> to
> they
> The
> 3
> additional
> calling
> help.
> with
> Avaya
> argue
[vbcol=seagreen]
> cisco is
> issues
> tells
> licensing
> for
> An
> but
> a
> subsequently
> built-in.
> Riley
> Server
> demo
> =
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| Mike Armstrong 2006-07-28, 1:11 pm |
| (Following the diverging thread here)
Some time ago our Unity server failed. Not knowing any better, I just moved
the hard drives to our lab server (another DL380-G2), fired it up, and it
ran just fine. Total down time was under 10 minutes. A couple of days
later I remembered having to submit the MAC address of the server for
licensing, so I e-mailed the licensing folks to see what I should do, since
a) the spare was running fine, bad MAC or no, and b) we expected to return
to the production server shortly anyway. The license folks got all bent out
of shape, but didn't want to re-issue a new .lic file and then just have to
do it all over again. Eventually the production server came back up so we
all just quietly dropped the whole thing. Nobody ever did confirm or deny
that a bad MAC was supposed to prevent Unity from starting, but we resolved
to avoid the whole issue in the future by following Ryan's advice (change
the MAC to match the license).
Mike Armstrong
UF/IFAS CREC
Lake Alfred, FL
> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:41:25 -0400
> From: Ryan Ratliff <rratliff@cisco.com>
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCM 5 on VMWare Server 1.0.0
> To: Ted Nugent <tednugent69@yahoo.com>
> Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Message-ID: <05440D83-FD38-4652-8266-0E627A4819DA@cisco.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes;
> format=flowed
>
> Not to sidetrack the thread but in that case I'd be changing the mac
> on the Unity server.
>
> -Ryan
>
> On Jul 27, 2006, at 3:48 PM, Ted Nugent wrote:
>
> Right on with the hardware failure deal scenario...
> emailing licensing and waiting for someone in RTP or
> SJ to come on shift is unacceptable. During working
> hours in the states turn around is pretty quick but
> I've found that APT and EMEA are good at "AVVID" TAC
> but licensing is non-existent! I had the exact
> scenario you mentioned with Unity at 1am Eastern US
> time and had to wait until 8:30am the next day to get
> a .lic file! The customer was furious because they
> fronted most of their calls through a unity AA. The HP
> guy was there to replace the motherboard within 3
> hours as contracted but we had to wait an additional 4
> hours for a new .lic file. And yes I did try calling
> in a P1 but no one could and/or knew how to help.
> That?s Unity? now if you have the same problem with
> your CM Cluster its Goodbye cisco and Hello Avaya for
> your customer.
| |
| Andrew Riley 2006-07-29, 1:11 am |
| I have it working under windows with VMWare workstation, but have all
sorts of trouble running under VMware server on Fedora 5. What version
of OS and VMware are you running?
Lab testing for CM 5 is going to be interesting, I believe the stock
standard features from 4.1 are ok (from my tests) however getting into
some of the newer features will be interesting. Presence, etc I have had
mixed results, reminded me of the CM 3.2 where you had to restart CTI
manager all the time.
Has anyone played with presence yet? I have done the VT lab?
Andrew Riley
Senior Systems Engineer
Alphawest Services Pty Ltd
T: (61 2) 9263 5669
F: (61 2) 9263 5889
www.alphawest.com.au
-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Charles [mailto:jonvoip@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, 28 July 2006 3:22 AM
To: Goran Selthofer
Cc: Andrew Riley; Ryan LaTorre; Serg; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCM 5 on VMWare Server 1.0.0
I have had little or no problems installing CCM5 on VMWare... the
problem is licensing... cisco needs to release a demo license (5
phones, 2 nodes) for lab purposes (if they want anyone to even think
about deploying this thing).
Until we have completed lab testing (which we cannot do with 5), there
is no way in hell we will deploy it in our network.
Cisco's loss (our network has 240,000 users).
Jonathan
On 7/27/06, Goran Selthofer <selt9@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> please share with us exact version of CCM5 which you made to work on
VMWARE
> workstation...
> thanks,
> goran
>
>
> Andrew Riley <Andrew.Riley@alphawest.com.au> wrote:
>
> I have got this running with VMware; mixed results running on VMWare
> server under linux, however worked flawlessly under VMware workstation
> on windows. Has anyone had documented success with this running on
linux
> (vmware server)?
>
>
>
> Andrew Riley
> Senior Systems Engineer
> Alphawest Services Pty Ltd
> T: (61 2) 9263 5669
> F: (61 2) 9263 5889
> www.alphawest.com.au
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of
> Jonathan
> Charles
> Sent: Friday, 21 July 2006 1:14 AM
> To: Ryan LaTorre
> Cc: Serg; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCM 5 on VMWare Server 1.0.0
>
> Well, what you do is add a few hundred 7971s (or 7985s) before the
> upgrade, and then delete them after.
>
> But you didn't hear that from me.
>
> Jonathan
>
> On 7/20/06, Ryan LaTorre wrote:
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