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| Jonathan Charles 2007-01-02, 1:11 pm |
| I need a list of HP hardware equivalents that will support CallManager 5...
Customer has an HP contract and will not buy cisco servers...
They also have a crapload of HP servers lying around and don't see the
reason to buy another one... (all servers are G3s, combination of DL320s,
360s and 380s).
I am looking for hardware specs for each that cisco will allow an install on
(I would rather get a list and match requirements than do the trial and
error thing...)
Jonathan
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| Ryan Ratliff 2007-01-02, 1:11 pm |
| Everything you need to know about cisco MCS servers both hardare and
software can be found at http://www.cisco.com/go/swonly.
-Ryan
On Jan 2, 2007, at 12:43 PM, Jonathan Charles wrote:
I need a list of HP hardware equivalents that will support
CallManager 5...
Customer has an HP contract and will not buy cisco servers...
They also have a crapload of HP servers lying around and don't see
the reason to buy another one... (all servers are G3s, combination of
DL320s, 360s and 380s).
I am looking for hardware specs for each that cisco will allow an
install on (I would rather get a list and match requirements than do
the trial and error thing...)
Jonathan
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| Jonathan Charles 2007-01-02, 7:11 pm |
| But that isn't 'everything' I need to know.
I want to know the mods... not just the model numbers for latest and
greatest, I want a list of everything that is supported (and will be by TAC)
So, for instance...
I have a cust that has a lot of DL380 G3s... how do I need to configure that
bad boy so I can install CCM5?
I have another customer that has a DL320 G4 (P4 3.4Ghz, dual 80GB SATA, 2GB
of RAM), CCM5 installed fine, no probs...
However, a single 2.8Ghz Xeon with 2GB of RAM and dual 72GB U320 SCSI
drives failed the hardware check... (so did a dual 2.4Ghz Xeon with 4GB of
RAM and dual 72GB U320s...)
So, is there a G3 config that will work?
(as far as I can get from that page, a single 2.4Ghz Xeon with 2 36Gb drives
should work... which doesn't make sense... a dual Xeon with more HD space
fails?? What????)
I think there should be logic behind this, there appears to not be.
BTW, I think the dual Xeon box is faster than the crappy DL320..
Here's for fun... they don't have any DL380G3s with 2.4Ghz processors left,
they do have a 380 with a 3060Mhz box, but they want to use it for their
Unity server... They have literally dozens of the 2.8s, but they aren't
supported.
This is slowly getting into 'this blows' territory....
I am going to have retask something here...
Jonathan
On 1/2/07, Ryan Ratliff <rratliff@cisco.com> wrote:
>
> Everything you need to know about cisco MCS servers both hardare and
> software can be found at http://www.cisco.com/go/swonly.
>
> -Ryan
>
> On Jan 2, 2007, at 12:43 PM, Jonathan Charles wrote:
>
> I need a list of HP hardware equivalents that will support
> CallManager 5...
>
> Customer has an HP contract and will not buy cisco servers...
>
> They also have a crapload of HP servers lying around and don't see
> the reason to buy another one... (all servers are G3s, combination of
> DL320s, 360s and 380s).
>
> I am looking for hardware specs for each that cisco will allow an
> install on (I would rather get a list and match requirements than do
> the trial and error thing...)
>
>
>
>
> Jonathan
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| Voll, Scott 2007-01-02, 7:11 pm |
| I would use the 3.06 Box for CM and use what ever is left for Unity.
Unity runs on anything.
It all comes down to what cisco certified at the time....... Personally
we are a Dell shop so the HP(Cisco) stick out in my rack. And all my
3rd party stuff is on Dell also. I even have a Unity server running on
a Dell
It's one of those things that you just aren't going to win.... You know
like call forwarding a second line(right Lelio?). or all IPT using the
same version of Java(I'm talking to myself).
Scott
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From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan
Charles
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 11:48 AM
To: Ryan Ratliff
Cc: cisco-voip@puck-nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] List of MCS hardware equivalents for
CallManager 5
But that isn't 'everything' I need to know.
I want to know the mods... not just the model numbers for latest and
greatest, I want a list of everything that is supported (and will be by
TAC)
So, for instance...
I have a cust that has a lot of DL380 G3s... how do I need to configure
that bad boy so I can install CCM5?
I have another customer that has a DL320 G4 (P4 3.4Ghz, dual 80GB SATA,
2GB of RAM), CCM5 installed fine, no probs...
However, a single 2.8Ghz Xeon with 2GB of RAM and dual 72GB U320 SCSI
drives failed the hardware check... (so did a dual 2.4Ghz Xeon with 4GB
of RAM and dual 72GB U320s...)
So, is there a G3 config that will work?
(as far as I can get from that page, a single 2.4Ghz Xeon with 2 36Gb
drives should work... which doesn't make sense... a dual Xeon with more
HD space fails?? What????)
I think there should be logic behind this, there appears to not be.
BTW, I think the dual Xeon box is faster than the crappy DL320..
Here's for fun... they don't have any DL380G3s with 2.4Ghz processors
left, they do have a 380 with a 3060Mhz box, but they want to use it for
their Unity server... They have literally dozens of the 2.8s, but they
aren't supported.
This is slowly getting into 'this blows' territory....
I am going to have retask something here...
Jonathan
On 1/2/07, Ryan Ratliff <rratliff@cisco.com> wrote:
Everything you need to know about cisco MCS servers both hardare and
software can be found at http://www.cisco.com/go/swonly.
-Ryan
On Jan 2, 2007, at 12:43 PM, Jonathan Charles wrote:
I need a list of HP hardware equivalents that will support
CallManager 5...
Customer has an HP contract and will not buy cisco servers...
They also have a crapload of HP servers lying around and don't see
the reason to buy another one... (all servers are G3s, combination of
DL320s, 360s and 380s).
I am looking for hardware specs for each that cisco will allow an
install on (I would rather get a list and match requirements than do
the trial and error thing...)
Jonathan
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| Simon, Bill 2007-01-02, 7:11 pm |
| You mean you can't CFA a secondary line? What if you do it from the =
CCMUser web interface?
/not at my desk so can't try it
Voll, Scott wrote:
> It=92s one of those things that you just aren=92t going to win=85. You kn=
ow =
> like call forwarding a second line(right Lelio?). or all IPT using the =
> same version of Java(I=92m talking to myself).
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| Lelio Fulgenzi 2007-01-02, 7:11 pm |
| The feature should be available on the phone itself, with out the need to have a PC and assign devices to userIDs and have userIDs and passwords. Like I'm gonna install a PC in our steam tunnels. ;)
The phone itself has to be programmed for the idea/concept of forwarding secondary lines. Right now if you forward a line, there is no indication WHATSOEVER (kaboom goes Lelio's head) to say that that line is forwarded. This limits XML applications as well. They try to change the line text label, but if people have already changed it, it starts screwing things up. For example, the little dancing phone and arrow should be applied at the line level, not at the top of the phone. Using the blue scroll bar would cycle through the forwarding destinations on the screen.
</rant>
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"I can eat fifty eggs." "Nobody can eat fifty eggs."
----- Original Message -----
From: Simon, Bill
To: Voll, Scott
Cc: cisco-voip@puck-nether.net
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] List of MCS hardware equivalents for CallManager 5
You mean you can't CFA a secondary line? What if you do it from the
CCMUser web interface?
/not at my desk so can't try it
Voll, Scott wrote:
> It’s one of those things that you just aren’t going to win…. You know
> like call forwarding a second line(right Lelio?). or all IPT using the
> same version of Java(I’m talking to myself).
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| Lelio Fulgenzi 2007-01-03, 1:11 pm |
| fileopen(canofworms)=cmevsccm.txt;
{
# Here's where I have another beef. I don't understand why the 'express' version
# should have more options than the 'non-express' version. While I understand
# they are two different product lines with two different groups, it's hard to explain
# to a user that they 'had' a feature but now we're migrating to the 'better' version
# and you are going to lose that feature.
#
# Not to mention being able to use a phone on CME but not CCM, i.e. 7931.
#
}
closefile(canofworms);
*sigh*
I'll never win. 
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"I can eat fifty eggs." "Nobody can eat fifty eggs."
----- Original Message -----
From: Wes Sisk
To: Lelio Fulgenzi
Cc: Simon, Bill ; Voll, Scott ; cisco-voip@puck-nether.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] List of MCS hardware equivalents for CallManager 5
Have you tried it on CME?
Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
The feature should be available on the phone itself, with out the need to have a PC and assign devices to userIDs and have userIDs and passwords. Like I'm gonna install a PC in our steam tunnels. ;)
The phone itself has to be programmed for the idea/concept of forwarding secondary lines. Right now if you forward a line, there is no indication WHATSOEVER (kaboom goes Lelio's head) to say that that line is forwarded. This limits XML applications as well. They try to change the line text label, but if people have already changed it, it starts screwing things up. For example, the little dancing phone and arrow should be applied at the line level, not at the top of the phone. Using the blue scroll bar would cycle through the forwarding destinations on the screen.
</rant>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"I can eat fifty eggs." "Nobody can eat fifty eggs."
----- Original Message -----
From: Simon, Bill
To: Voll, Scott
Cc: cisco-voip@puck-nether.net
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] List of MCS hardware equivalents for CallManager 5
You mean you can't CFA a secondary line? What if you do it from the
CCMUser web interface?
/not at my desk so can't try it
Voll, Scott wrote:
> It’s one of those things that you just aren’t going to win…. You know
> like call forwarding a second line(right Lelio?). or all IPT using the
> same version of Java(I’m talking to myself).
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https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
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| Philip Walenta 2007-01-03, 1:11 pm |
| I had a few customers put in a feature request for CFA on any line, and hold
ringback about 6.5 years ago.
We finally got hold ringback in CCM4.2.
_____
From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 3:46 PM
To: Simon, Bill; Voll, Scott
Cc: cisco-voip@puck-nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] List of MCS hardware equivalents for CallManager 5
The feature should be available on the phone itself, with out the need to
have a PC and assign devices to userIDs and have userIDs and passwords. Like
I'm gonna install a PC in our steam tunnels. ;)
The phone itself has to be programmed for the idea/concept of forwarding
secondary lines. Right now if you forward a line, there is no indication
WHATSOEVER (kaboom goes Lelio's head) to say that that line is forwarded.
This limits XML applications as well. They try to change the line text
label, but if people have already changed it, it starts screwing things up.
For example, the little dancing phone and arrow should be applied at the
line level, not at the top of the phone. Using the blue scroll bar would
cycle through the forwarding destinations on the screen.
</rant>
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"I can eat fifty eggs." "Nobody can eat fifty eggs."
----- Original Message -----
From: Simon, <mailto:bills@tns.its.psu.edu> Bill
To: Voll, Scott <mailto:Scott.Voll@wesd.org>
Cc: cisco-voip@puck-nether.net
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] List of MCS hardware equivalents for CallManager 5
You mean you can't CFA a secondary line? What if you do it from the
CCMUser web interface?
/not at my desk so can't try it
Voll, Scott wrote:
> It's one of those things that you just aren't going to win.. You know
> like call forwarding a second line(right Lelio?). or all IPT using the
> same version of Java(I'm talking to myself).
________________________________________
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| Lelio Fulgenzi 2007-01-03, 1:11 pm |
| feature request? cisco has it listed as a bug. status 'new' since 2004
http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/Suppor...ugid=CSCdr03425
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"I can eat fifty eggs." "Nobody can eat fifty eggs."
----- Original Message -----
From: Philip Walenta
To: 'Lelio Fulgenzi' ; 'Simon, Bill' ; 'Voll, Scott'
Cc: 'cisco-voip@puck-nether.net'
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 9:52 AM
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] List of MCS hardware equivalents for CallManager 5
I had a few customers put in a feature request for CFA on any line, and hold ringback about 6.5 years ago.
We finally got hold ringback in CCM4.2.
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From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 3:46 PM
To: Simon, Bill; Voll, Scott
Cc: cisco-voip@puck-nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] List of MCS hardware equivalents for CallManager 5
The feature should be available on the phone itself, with out the need to have a PC and assign devices to userIDs and have userIDs and passwords. Like I'm gonna install a PC in our steam tunnels. ;)
The phone itself has to be programmed for the idea/concept of forwarding secondary lines. Right now if you forward a line, there is no indication WHATSOEVER (kaboom goes Lelio's head) to say that that line is forwarded. This limits XML applications as well. They try to change the line text label, but if people have already changed it, it starts screwing things up. For example, the little dancing phone and arrow should be applied at the line level, not at the top of the phone. Using the blue scroll bar would cycle through the forwarding destinations on the screen.
</rant>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"I can eat fifty eggs." "Nobody can eat fifty eggs."
----- Original Message -----
From: Simon, Bill
To: Voll, Scott
Cc: cisco-voip@puck-nether.net
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] List of MCS hardware equivalents for CallManager 5
You mean you can't CFA a secondary line? What if you do it from the
CCMUser web interface?
/not at my desk so can't try it
Voll, Scott wrote:
> It's one of those things that you just aren't going to win.. You know
> like call forwarding a second line(right Lelio?). or all IPT using the
> same version of Java(I'm talking to myself).
________________________________________
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| Ryan Ratliff 2007-01-03, 1:11 pm |
| A severity 6 bug is the equivalent of a feature request. The fact =
that there's a bug means that the push came from TAC. The account =
teams have their own way of submitting feature requests which have a =
much greater chance of getting implemented than than sev 6 bugs TAC =
files.
-Ryan
On Jan 3, 2007, at 10:07 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
feature request? cisco has it listed as a bug. status 'new' since 2004
http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/Suppor...id=3DCSCdr03425
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"I can eat fifty eggs." "Nobody can eat fifty eggs."
----- Original Message -----
From: Philip Walenta
To: 'Lelio Fulgenzi' ; 'Simon, Bill' ; 'Voll, Scott'
Cc: 'cisco-voip@puck-nether.net'
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 9:52 AM
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] List of MCS hardware equivalents for =
CallManager 5
I had a few customers put in a feature request for CFA on any line, =
and hold ringback about 6.5 years ago.
We finally got hold ringback in CCM4.2.
From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip- =
bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 3:46 PM
To: Simon, Bill; Voll, Scott
Cc: cisco-voip@puck-nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] List of MCS hardware equivalents for =
CallManager 5
The feature should be available on the phone itself, with out the =
need to have a PC and assign devices to userIDs and have userIDs and =
passwords. Like I'm gonna install a PC in our steam tunnels. ;)
The phone itself has to be programmed for the idea/concept of =
forwarding secondary lines. Right now if you forward a line, there is =
no indication WHATSOEVER (kaboom goes Lelio's head) to say that that =
line is forwarded. This limits XML applications as well. They try to =
change the line text label, but if people have already changed it, it =
starts screwing things up. For example, the little dancing phone and =
arrow should be applied at the line level, not at the top of the =
phone. Using the blue scroll bar would cycle through the forwarding =
destinations on the screen.
</rant>
------------------------------------------------------------------------ =
--------
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"I can eat fifty eggs." "Nobody can eat fifty eggs."
----- Original Message -----
From: Simon, Bill
To: Voll, Scott
Cc: cisco-voip@puck-nether.net
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] List of MCS hardware equivalents for =
CallManager 5
You mean you can't CFA a secondary line? What if you do it from the
CCMUser web interface?
/not at my desk so can't try it
Voll, Scott wrote:
> It=92s one of those things that you just aren=92t going to win=85. You k=
now
> like call forwarding a second line(right Lelio?). or all IPT using =
the
> same version of Java(I=92m talking to myself).
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