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Anthony Kouloglou

2007-01-30, 1:11 pm

Hi all,
i am really pissed of with cisco's customer support.
They really don't tell what exactly is going on.
I just want to upgrade 2 of my 7825i2 servers running 4.2 ccm to 5.1.
It has been 2 weeks that they are telling me that there will be soon an
upgrade and 5 days ago
they told me that it is ready and to go to PUT to download it!!
I went to PUT web page and i found out that it was an upgrade from
4.1->5.1!!
I told them that i have 4.2 and i am still waiting for their response!!!

Has anyone find a way to upgrade from 4.2 to 5.1?

Cheers
Anthony
Matthias Schaerer

2007-01-30, 1:11 pm

Anthony,

there won't be an upgrade path form 4.2 to 5.1. From 4.2 you can only
upgrade to 6.0.

Sorry for that!

Regards,
Mat
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Anthony Kouloglou <akoul@dataways.gr>
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30.01.2007 17:39


To: "cisco-voip@puck-nether.net" <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
cc:
Subject: [cisco-voip] 4.1 to 5.1 upgrade released. Why not from 4.2?!!


Hi all,
i am really pissed of with cisco's customer support.
They really don't tell what exactly is going on.
I just want to upgrade 2 of my 7825i2 servers running 4.2 ccm to 5.1.
It has been 2 weeks that they are telling me that there will be soon an
upgrade and 5 days ago
they told me that it is ready and to go to PUT to download it!!
I went to PUT web page and i found out that it was an upgrade from
4.1->5.1!!
I told them that i have 4.2 and i am still waiting for their response!!!

Has anyone find a way to upgrade from 4.2 to 5.1?

Cheers
Anthony
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Craig M Staffin

2007-01-30, 7:11 pm

Cisco has made it very publicly known that there will not be an upgrade
from 4.2 to 5 or 5.1

The only upgrade path is from 4.1 to 5.

I would honestly say wait another year and wait until 6 comes out

Just my 2 cents

Craig





Anthony Kouloglou <akoul@dataways.gr>
Sent by: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
01/30/2007 12:39 PM

To
"cisco-voip@puck-nether.net" <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
cc

Subject
[cisco-voip] 4.1 to 5.1 upgrade released. Why not from 4.2?!!






Hi all,
i am really pissed of with cisco's customer support.
They really don't tell what exactly is going on.
I just want to upgrade 2 of my 7825i2 servers running 4.2 ccm to 5.1.
It has been 2 weeks that they are telling me that there will be soon an
upgrade and 5 days ago
they told me that it is ready and to go to PUT to download it!!
I went to PUT web page and i found out that it was an upgrade from
4.1->5.1!!
I told them that i have 4.2 and i am still waiting for their response!!!

Has anyone find a way to upgrade from 4.2 to 5.1?

Cheers
Anthony
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cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
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Mike Lay \(milay\)

2007-01-30, 7:11 pm

This is due to feature support & DB migration. 4.2.3 has features that
are not supported in 5.x, these features sync. in 6.x.

Mike


________________________________

From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Craig M Staffin
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 10:52 AM
To: Anthony Kouloglou
Cc: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net; cisco-voip@puck-nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] 4.1 to 5.1 upgrade released. Why not from
4.2?!!



Cisco has made it very publicly known that there will not be an upgrade
from 4.2 to 5 or 5.1

The only upgrade path is from 4.1 to 5.

I would honestly say wait another year and wait until 6 comes out

Just my 2 cents

Craig





Anthony Kouloglou <akoul@dataways.gr>
Sent by: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net

01/30/2007 12:39 PM

To
"cisco-voip@puck-nether.net" <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
cc
Subject
[cisco-voip] 4.1 to 5.1 upgrade released. Why not from 4.2?!!






Hi all,
i am really pissed of with cisco's customer support.
They really don't tell what exactly is going on.
I just want to upgrade 2 of my 7825i2 servers running 4.2 ccm to 5.1.
It has been 2 weeks that they are telling me that there will be soon an
upgrade and 5 days ago
they told me that it is ready and to go to PUT to download it!!
I went to PUT web page and i found out that it was an upgrade from
4.1->5.1!!
I told them that i have 4.2 and i am still waiting for their response!!!

Has anyone find a way to upgrade from 4.2 to 5.1?

Cheers
Anthony
________________________________________
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cisco-voip mailing list
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip



Anthony Kouloglou

2007-01-31, 7:11 am

Ryan good morning,
as i said, the TAC (605169425) was honest enough to tell me that it is
not their territory and to go to EMEA support.
But,shouldn't the TAC know that it is impossible to go from 4.2 to 5.X?
And for 10 days the EMEA customer services didn't tell me also that is
impossible!!
And after a post to cisco-voip forum, i got 5-6 answers almost immediately!!
I think that next time i will open a TAC to cisco-voip!

Cheers,
Anthony

Ryan Ratliff wrote:
> Can you send me the SR number of your TAC case? This sounds like an
> educational opportunity for us.
>
> -Ryan
>
> On Jan 30, 2007, at 11:39 AM, Anthony Kouloglou wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> i am really pissed of with cisco's customer support.
> They really don't tell what exactly is going on.
> I just want to upgrade 2 of my 7825i2 servers running 4.2 ccm to 5.1.
> It has been 2 weeks that they are telling me that there will be soon an
> upgrade and 5 days ago
> they told me that it is ready and to go to PUT to download it!!
> I went to PUT web page and i found out that it was an upgrade from
> 4.1->5.1!!
> I told them that i have 4.2 and i am still waiting for their response!!!
>
> Has anyone find a way to upgrade from 4.2 to 5.1?
>
> Cheers
> Anthony
> ________________________________________
_______
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>

Jonathan Charles

2007-01-31, 1:11 pm

That's what I do... there is generally a faster response time from here than
from TAC...

But sometimes you need the TAC case to cover your butt.



Jonathan

On 1/31/07, Anthony Kouloglou <akoul@dataways.gr> wrote:
>
> Ryan good morning,
> as i said, the TAC (605169425) was honest enough to tell me that it is
> not their territory and to go to EMEA support.
> But,shouldn't the TAC know that it is impossible to go from 4.2 to 5.X?
> And for 10 days the EMEA customer services didn't tell me also that is
> impossible!!
> And after a post to cisco-voip forum, i got 5-6 answers almost
> immediately!!
> I think that next time i will open a TAC to cisco-voip!
>
> Cheers,
> Anthony
>
> Ryan Ratliff wrote:
> ________________________________________
_______
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>


Voll, Scott

2007-01-31, 1:11 pm

Me too..... Everyone is so fast with responses......... and Thanks to
Wes, Ryan and Mike who hang out on this list as we know you don't have
to.



Scott



________________________________

From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan
Charles
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 7:24 AM
To: Anthony Kouloglou
Cc: ci >> cisco-voip@puck-nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] 4.1 to 5.1 upgrade released. Why not from
4.2?!!



That's what I do... there is generally a faster response time from here
than from TAC...

But sometimes you need the TAC case to cover your butt.



Jonathan

On 1/31/07, Anthony Kouloglou <akoul@dataways.gr> wrote:

Ryan good morning,
as i said, the TAC (605169425) was honest enough to tell me that it is
not their territory and to go to EMEA support.
But,shouldn't the TAC know that it is impossible to go from 4.2 to 5.X?
And for 10 days the EMEA customer services didn't tell me also that is
impossible!!
And after a post to cisco-voip forum, i got 5-6 answers almost
immediately!!
I think that next time i will open a TAC to cisco-voip!

Cheers,
Anthony

Ryan Ratliff wrote:
> Can you send me the SR number of your TAC case? This sounds like an
> educational opportunity for us.
>
> -Ryan
>
> On Jan 30, 2007, at 11:39 AM, Anthony Kouloglou wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> i am really pissed of with cisco's customer support.
> They really don't tell what exactly is going on.
> I just want to upgrade 2 of my 7825i2 servers running 4.2 ccm to 5.1.
> It has been 2 weeks that they are telling me that there will be soon

an
> upgrade and 5 days ago
> they told me that it is ready and to go to PUT to download it!!
> I went to PUT web page and i found out that it was an upgrade from
> 4.1->5.1!!
> I told them that i have 4.2 and i am still waiting for their

response!!!
>
> Has anyone find a way to upgrade from 4.2 to 5.1?
>
> Cheers
> Anthony
> ________________________________________
_______
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>

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Anthony Kouloglou

2007-01-31, 1:11 pm

Thanks Ryan,
of course i won't try to upgrade 4.2 to 5.1 with the existing upgrade
kit. There is no
time for experiments!!
I will just wait for cisco to have 6.0 ready.
Will it be ready by spring 2007?

Anthony

Ryan Ratliff wrote:
> The last note the TAC engineer put in the SR notes is "cu wants ccm
> media kit from 4.1 to 5.x". It looks like he just didn't note that
> you were upgrading from 4.2 and not 4.1.
>
> The folks at customer service are not technical so are not expected to
> know what you can or can not upgrade to/from.
>
> Sorry you had difficulties but I would expect both DMA 5.1.1 and the
> Upgrade Assistant 4.3.1 to fail if you tried to run them on a 4.2
> server intending to upgrade to 5.1.
>
> -Ryan
>
> On Jan 31, 2007, at 2:32 AM, Anthony Kouloglou wrote:
>
> Ryan good morning,
> as i said, the TAC (605169425) was honest enough to tell me that it is
> not their territory and to go to EMEA support.
> But,shouldn't the TAC know that it is impossible to go from 4.2 to 5.X?
> And for 10 days the EMEA customer services didn't tell me also that is
> impossible!!
> And after a post to cisco-voip forum, i got 5-6 answers almost
> immediately!!
> I think that next time i will open a TAC to cisco-voip!
>
> Cheers,
> Anthony
>
> Ryan Ratliff wrote:
>

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