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Sam Hall

2007-12-20, 7:12 am

Hi

We have two routers at each of our sites, one has our WAN connection
"xx-2651-1", the other has our ISDN30 "xx-2651-2". If our ISDN 30 router
hardware fails, we physically move the ISDN 30 cable from "xx-2651-2" to
"xx-2651-1". In CM 3.2 this automagically worked as we have both routers
configured in CM's "Route Group config".

Now in CM 4.2(3) after an upgrade this doesn't seem to work any more; the
only way to get this to work is to manually move the cable and then swap
the priority of the two selected devices in CM's "Route Group config",
then all calls route in and out as expected.

If we don't swap the priority the below happens:

1) external > inbound are accepted and routed as normal
2) internal > internal are accepted and routed as normal
3) internal > external get an engaged tone
4) "csim start" simulated calls from the router i.e internal > external
work fine as well

Any ideas would be appreciated.


Sam
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Tel: +44 (0)1355 270655
samhall@wiseman-dairies.co.uk
www.wiseman-dairies.co.uk
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Erik Erasmus (E)

2007-12-20, 7:12 am


Hi Sam

I have a setup with two voicegateways both with two PRIs for rdundancy
at a site and they work fine using 4-2-3 sr3x

we don't swop manual - not sure if this is part of the problem -
should not be

I am using Route pattern, Rlist, Rgroup gateway

are you suing h323 or MGCP gateways


erik erasmus

________________________________

From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net on behalf of Sam Hall
Sent: Thu 2007-12-20 12:06
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] Call Manager router failover



Hi

We have two routers at each of our sites, one has our WAN connection
"xx-2651-1", the other has our ISDN30 "xx-2651-2". If our ISDN 30
router hardware fails, we physically move the ISDN 30 cable from
"xx-2651-2" to "xx-2651-1". In CM 3.2 this automagically worked as we
have both routers configured in CM's "Route Group config".

Now in CM 4.2(3) after an upgrade this doesn't seem to work any more;
the only way to get this to work is to manually move the cable and
then swap the priority of the two selected devices in CM's "Route
Group config", then all calls route in and out as expected.

If we don't swap the priority the below happens:

1) external > inbound are accepted and routed as normal
2) internal > internal are accepted and routed as normal
3) internal > external get an engaged tone
4) "csim start" simulated calls from the router i.e internal >
external work fine as well

Any ideas would be appreciated.


Sam
----
Sam Hall
Robert Wiseman & Sons
Ext: 6655
Tel: +44 (0)1355 270655
samhall@wiseman-dairies.co.uk
www.wiseman-dairies.co.uk
159 Glasgow Road, East Kilbride, Glasgow, G74 4PA



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Sam Hall

2007-12-20, 1:11 pm

Hi

We are using an H323 gw

Yep configured as you mentioned, see URL's below with screen print of
Route pattern, Rlist, Rgroup gateway config... remember this manual
failover worked fine when we were running v3.2

Thanks

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6omybl2&s=1
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=72gix5z&s=1
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6p9y3hd&s=1




Sam
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Sam Hall
Robert Wiseman & Sons
Ext: 6655
Tel: +44 (0)1355 270655
samhall@wiseman-dairies.co.uk
www.wiseman-dairies.co.uk
159 Glasgow Road, East Kilbride, Glasgow, G74 4PA



"Erik Erasmus (E)" <ErasmuE4@telkom.co.za>
20/12/2007 10:32

To
"Sam Hall" <SamHall@wiseman-dairies.co.uk>, <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
cc

Subject
RE: [cisco-voip] Call Manager router failover






Hi Sam

I have a setup with two voicegateways both with two PRIs for rdundancy at
a site and they work fine using 4-2-3 sr3x

we don't swop manual - not sure if this is part of the problem - should
not be

I am using Route pattern, Rlist, Rgroup gateway

are you suing h323 or MGCP gateways


erik erasmus

From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net on behalf of Sam Hall
Sent: Thu 2007-12-20 12:06
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] Call Manager router failover


Hi

We have two routers at each of our sites, one has our WAN connection
"xx-2651-1", the other has our ISDN30 "xx-2651-2". If our ISDN 30 router
hardware fails, we physically move the ISDN 30 cable from "xx-2651-2" to
"xx-2651-1". In CM 3.2 this automagically worked as we have both routers
configured in CM's "Route Group config".

Now in CM 4.2(3) after an upgrade this doesn't seem to work any more; the
only way to get this to work is to manually move the cable and then swap
the priority of the two selected devices in CM's "Route Group config",
then all calls route in and out as expected.

If we don't swap the priority the below happens:

1) external > inbound are accepted and routed as normal
2) internal > internal are accepted and routed as normal
3) internal > external get an engaged tone
4) "csim start" simulated calls from the router i.e internal > external
work fine as well

Any ideas would be appreciated.


Sam
----
Sam Hall
Robert Wiseman & Sons
Ext: 6655
Tel: +44 (0)1355 270655
samhall@wiseman-dairies.co.uk
www.wiseman-dairies.co.uk
159 Glasgow Road, East Kilbride, Glasgow, G74 4PA

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opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not
necessarily represent those of Robert Wiseman & Sons Ltd or of any of its
associated companies. No reliance may be placed on this message without
written confirmation from an authorised representative of the company.

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communications through its network.

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advised to re-scan the message before opening any attachments or attached
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Registered Number: 87376 Scotland
Registered Office: 159 Glasgow Road,
East Kilbride, Glasgow, G74 4PA

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Sam Hall

2007-12-21, 7:11 am

Hi Erik

Fixed now, thanks for your help though.

The router configs were correct, but one of our CMs had the following
service parameter set to true, (the other was false). I've set them both
to false now and tested, It now fails correctly between the two routers on
site.

"Stop Routing on unallocated number - this should be set to false"




Sam
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Sam Hall
Robert Wiseman & Sons
Ext: 6655
Tel: +44 (0)1355 270655
samhall@wiseman-dairies.co.uk
www.wiseman-dairies.co.uk
159 Glasgow Road, East Kilbride, Glasgow, G74 4PA



"Erik Erasmus (E)" <ErasmuE4@telkom.co.za>
21/12/2007 06:33

To
"Sam Hall" <SamHall@wiseman-dairies.co.uk>
cc

Subject
RE: [cisco-voip] Call Manager router failover






Sam

Sorry - can?t be of any help other than to say:

I had several issues with ver 4-2 ?? mostly with huntgroups and attendant
console so it might be worth while looking at getting the latest service
release if your problem is related to bugs..
We upgraded a while ago and things are looking better for us



erik


From: Sam Hall [mailto:SamHall@wiseman-dairies.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 6:57 PM
To: Erik Erasmus (E)
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Call Manager router failover


Hi

We are using an H323 gw

Yep configured as you mentioned, see URL's below with screen print of
Route pattern, Rlist, Rgroup gateway config... remember this manual
failover worked fine when we were running v3.2

Thanks

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6omybl2&s=1
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=72gix5z&s=1
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6p9y3hd&s=1




Sam
----
Sam Hall
Robert Wiseman & Sons
Ext: 6655
Tel: +44 (0)1355 270655
samhall@wiseman-dairies.co.uk
www.wiseman-dairies.co.uk
159 Glasgow Road, East Kilbride, Glasgow, G74 4PA


"Erik Erasmus (E)" <ErasmuE4@telkom.co.za>
20/12/2007 10:32


To
"Sam Hall" <SamHall@wiseman-dairies.co.uk>, <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
cc

Subject
RE: [cisco-voip] Call Manager router failover









Hi Sam

I have a setup with two voicegateways both with two PRIs for rdundancy at
a site and they work fine using 4-2-3 sr3x

we don't swop manual - not sure if this is part of the problem - should
not be

I am using Route pattern, Rlist, Rgroup gateway

are you suing h323 or MGCP gateways


erik erasmus

From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net on behalf of Sam Hall
Sent: Thu 2007-12-20 12:06
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] Call Manager router failover


Hi

We have two routers at each of our sites, one has our WAN connection
"xx-2651-1", the other has our ISDN30 "xx-2651-2". If our ISDN 30 router
hardware fails, we physically move the ISDN 30 cable from "xx-2651-2" to
"xx-2651-1". In CM 3.2 this automagically worked as we have both routers
configured in CM's "Route Group config".

Now in CM 4.2(3) after an upgrade this doesn't seem to work any more; the
only way to get this to work is to manually move the cable and then swap
the priority of the two selected devices in CM's "Route Group config",
then all calls route in and out as expected.

If we don't swap the priority the below happens:

1) external > inbound are accepted and routed as normal
2) internal > internal are accepted and routed as normal
3) internal > external get an engaged tone
4) "csim start" simulated calls from the router i.e internal > external
work fine as well

Any ideas would be appreciated.


Sam
----
Sam Hall
Robert Wiseman & Sons
Ext: 6655
Tel: +44 (0)1355 270655
samhall@wiseman-dairies.co.uk
www.wiseman-dairies.co.uk
159 Glasgow Road, East Kilbride, Glasgow, G74 4PA

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the exclusive and confidential use of the recipient addressee. Any other
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error, please delete it immediately and contact the sender directly or the
Robert Wiseman & Sons Ltd IT Helpdesk on +44 (0)1355 270634. Any views or
opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not
necessarily represent those of Robert Wiseman & Sons Ltd or of any of its
associated companies. No reliance may be placed on this message without
written confirmation from an authorised representative of the company.

Robert Wiseman & Sons Limited reserves the right to monitor all e-mail
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This message has been checked for viruses but the recipient is strongly
advised to re-scan the message before opening any attachments or attached
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ROBERT WISEMAN & SONS LIMITED
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Registered Office: 159 Glasgow Road,
East Kilbride, Glasgow, G74 4PA

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Aman Chugh

2007-12-21, 7:11 am

Callmanager upgrades sets the service parrametters to default values , that
might have happenned in your case as well.


Aman


On 12/21/07, Sam Hall <SamHall@wiseman-dairies.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Erik
>
> Fixed now, thanks for your help though.
>
> The router configs were correct, but one of our CMs had the following
> service parameter set to true, (the other was false). I've set them both to
> false now and tested, It now fails correctly between the two routers on
> site.
>
> "Stop Routing on unallocated number - this should be set to false"
>
>
>
>
> Sam
> ----
> Sam Hall
> Robert Wiseman & Sons
> Ext: 6655
> Tel: +44 (0)1355 270655
> samhall@wiseman-dairies.co.uk
> www.wiseman-dairies.co.uk
> 159 Glasgow Road, East Kilbride, Glasgow, G74 4PA
>
>
> *"Erik Erasmus (E)" <ErasmuE4@telkom.co.za>*
>
> 21/12/2007 06:33
> To
> "Sam Hall" <SamHall@wiseman-dairies.co.uk> cc
> Subject
> RE: [cisco-voip] Call Manager router failover
>
>
>
>
> Sam
>
> Sorry - can't be of any help other than to say:
>
> I had several issues with ver 4-2 …… mostly with huntgroups and attendant
> console so it might be worth while looking at getting the latest service
> release if your problem is related to bugs..
> We upgraded a while ago and things are looking better for us
>
>
>
> erik
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Sam Hall [mailto:SamHall@wiseman-dairies.co.uk] *
> Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2007 6:57 PM*
> To:* Erik Erasmus (E)*
> Cc:* cisco-voip@puck.nether.net*
> Subject:* RE: [cisco-voip] Call Manager router failover
>
>
> Hi
>
> We are using an H323 gw
>
> Yep configured as you mentioned, see URL's below with screen print of Route
> pattern, Rlist, Rgroup gateway config... remember this manual failover
> worked fine when we were running v3.2
>
> Thanks
>
> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6omybl2&s=1
> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=72gix5z&s=1
> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6p9y3hd&s=1
>
>
>
>
> Sam
> ----
> Sam Hall
> Robert Wiseman & Sons
> Ext: 6655
> Tel: +44 (0)1355 270655
> samhall@wiseman-dairies.co.uk
> www.wiseman-dairies.co.uk
> 159 Glasgow Road, East Kilbride, Glasgow, G74 4PA
>
> *"Erik Erasmus (E)" <ErasmuE4@telkom.co.za>*
>
> 20/12/2007 10:32
>
> To
> "Sam Hall" <SamHall@wiseman-dairies.co.uk>, <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
> cc
> Subject
> RE: [cisco-voip] Call Manager router failover
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Sam
>
> I have a setup with two voicegateways both with two PRIs for rdundancy at
> a site and they work fine using 4-2-3 sr3x
>
> we don't swop manual - not sure if this is part of the problem - should
> not be
>
> I am using Route pattern, Rlist, Rgroup gateway
>
> are you suing h323 or MGCP gateways
>
>
> erik erasmus
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net on behalf of Sam Hall*
> Sent:* Thu 2007-12-20 12:06*
> To:* cisco-voip@puck.nether.net*
> Subject:* [cisco-voip] Call Manager router failover
>
>
> Hi
>
> We have two routers at each of our sites, one has our WAN connection
> "xx-2651-1", the other has our ISDN30 "xx-2651-2". If our ISDN 30 router
> hardware fails, we physically move the ISDN 30 cable from "xx-2651-2" to
> "xx-2651-1". In CM 3.2 this automagically worked as we have both routers
> configured in CM's "Route Group config".
>
> Now in CM 4.2(3) after an upgrade this doesn't seem to work any more; the
> only way to get this to work is to manually move the cable and then swap the
> priority of the two selected devices in CM's "Route Group config", then all
> calls route in and out as expected.
>
> If we don't swap the priority the below happens:
>
> 1) external > inbound are accepted and routed as normal
> 2) internal > internal are accepted and routed as normal
> 3) internal > external get an engaged tone
> 4) "csim start" simulated calls from the router i.e internal > external
> work fine as well
>
> Any ideas would be appreciated.
>
>
> Sam
> ----
> Sam Hall
> Robert Wiseman & Sons
> Ext: 6655
> Tel: +44 (0)1355 270655
> samhall@wiseman-dairies.co.uk
> www.wiseman-dairies.co.uk
> 159 Glasgow Road, East Kilbride, Glasgow, G74 4PA
>
>
>
>
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> delete it immediately and contact the sender directly or the Robert Wiseman
> & Sons Ltd IT Helpdesk on +44 (0)1355 270634. Any views or opinions
> expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily
> represent those of Robert Wiseman & Sons Ltd or of any of its associated
> companies. No reliance may be placed on this message without written
> confirmation from an authorised representative of the company.
>
>
>
> Robert Wiseman & Sons Limited reserves the right to monitor all e-mail
> communications through its network.
>
>
>
> This message has been checked for viruses but the recipient is strongly
> advised to re-scan the message before opening any attachments or attached
> executable files.
>
>
>
> ROBERT WISEMAN & SONS LIMITED
>
> *Registered Number: 87376 Scotland*
>
> *Registered Office: 159 Glasgow Road,*
>
> *East Kilbride, Glasgow, G74 4PA*
>
>
>
>
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