Voice over IP Cisco - Updating the E911 database

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Updating the E911 database

Robert Kulagowski

2007-04-03, 1:11 pm

We're consolidating offices in NY; two offices will move into the same
building onto different floors.

ATT is going to be our LD and Local provider (last mile is probably
Verizon). We use cisco Emergency Responder. In Illinois, you used to
be able to tell Ameritech "These DIDs are on floor X, and these are on
floor Y", configure the ELINs in CER to route to those particular DIDs
and you were good.

In NY, ATT says they don't do that, and that you have to contact a 3rd
party to get the information updated in the PSAP database.

Since I'm going to use two DIDs per floor, that means that I need four
all together. Two of them should already show that they're on floor X -
I need to get the remaining two to show that they're on floor Y.

ATT sent a Word doc that had 911 ETC, Redsky and OM2 Technology as SLI
(Station-level Identification) vendors. Since I've already got CER, are
there any vendors that will just update the two numbers and call it a
day? The one response that I've got back is something like $3K, and
then another $312 monthly, which seems pretty steep for something that's
not going to change. They all seem to be geared around doing
moves-adds-changes and updating the PSAP, which isn't required with CER.

Does anyone have any other vendors that do these database updates? Am I
doing this the hard way if there's a much cheaper / easier way to do this?

Ed Leatherman

2007-04-03, 7:11 pm

We had to get PS-ALI service through verizon for this. The folks at the PSAP
really didnt know what we even wanted, so we had to go with what Verizon
told us. We're not paying that much for it though, I think its $10/month per
block of 100 records, with a minimum number of blocks that we have to
purchase. Verizon is our local carrier though.

On 4/3/07, Robert Kulagowski <bob@smalltime.com> wrote:
>
> We're consolidating offices in NY; two offices will move into the same
> building onto different floors.
>
> ATT is going to be our LD and Local provider (last mile is probably
> Verizon). We use cisco Emergency Responder. In Illinois, you used to
> be able to tell Ameritech "These DIDs are on floor X, and these are on
> floor Y", configure the ELINs in CER to route to those particular DIDs
> and you were good.
>
> In NY, ATT says they don't do that, and that you have to contact a 3rd
> party to get the information updated in the PSAP database.
>
> Since I'm going to use two DIDs per floor, that means that I need four
> all together. Two of them should already show that they're on floor X -
> I need to get the remaining two to show that they're on floor Y.
>
> ATT sent a Word doc that had 911 ETC, Redsky and OM2 Technology as SLI
> (Station-level Identification) vendors. Since I've already got CER, are
> there any vendors that will just update the two numbers and call it a
> day? The one response that I've got back is something like $3K, and
> then another $312 monthly, which seems pretty steep for something that's
> not going to change. They all seem to be geared around doing
> moves-adds-changes and updating the PSAP, which isn't required with CER.
>
> Does anyone have any other vendors that do these database updates? Am I
> doing this the hard way if there's a much cheaper / easier way to do this?
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Ed Leatherman
Senior Voice Engineer
West Virginia University
Telecommunications and Network Operations

Jason Aarons $US$

2007-04-03, 7:11 pm

Time Warner Telecom maps DIDs to floors/street addresses at no cost to me. They have a limited footprint. http://www.twtelecom.com

In theSoutheast BellSouth sells PinPoint for mapping DIDs to floors/street addresses.

For the PS-ALI electronic interface Bellsouth charges US$2k setup plus monthly re-occuring charge of about $200. Once customers find out about the costs and the lack of legislation (except in Cook County (Chicago, IL) they drop the PS-ALI and just have CER send a phone or smtp alert. (Which you could do with in another method for a lot less money!).

From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ed Leatherman
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 4:23 PM
To: Robert Kulagowski
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Updating the E911 database

We had to get PS-ALI service through verizon for this. The folks at the PSAP really didnt know what we even wanted, so we had to go with what Verizon told us. We're not paying that much for it though, I think its $10/month per block of 100 records, with a minimum number of blocks that we have to purchase. Verizon is our local carrier though.

On 4/3/07, Robert Kulagowski <bob@smalltime.com> wrote:

We're consolidating offices in NY; two offices will move into the same
building onto different floors.

ATT is going to be our LD and Local provider (last mile is probably
Verizon). We use cisco Emergency Responder. In Illinois, you used to
be able to tell Ameritech "These DIDs are on floor X, and these are on
floor Y", configure the ELINs in CER to route to those particular DIDs
and you were good.

In NY, ATT says they don't do that, and that you have to contact a 3rd
party to get the information updated in the PSAP database.

Since I'm going to use two DIDs per floor, that means that I need four
all together. Two of them should already show that they're on floor X -
I need to get the remaining two to show that they're on floor Y.

ATT sent a Word doc that had 911 ETC, Redsky and OM2 Technology as SLI
(Station-level Identification) vendors. Since I've already got CER, are
there any vendors that will just update the two numbers and call it a
day? The one response that I've got back is something like $3K, and
then another $312 monthly, which seems pretty steep for something that's
not going to change. They all seem to be geared around doing
moves-adds-changes and updating the PSAP, which isn't required with CER.

Does anyone have any other vendors that do these database updates? Am I
doing this the hard way if there's a much cheaper / easier way to do this?
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Ed Leatherman
Senior Voice Engineer
West Virginia University
Telecommunications and Network Operations

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Joe Pollere $US$

2007-04-03, 7:12 pm

You can check here for Verizon Instructions:

http://www22.verizon.com/wholesale/...,21070,,00.html

or call someone at the Verizon E9-1-1 System Administration team

They can be reached via email at e911.system.admin@verizon.com or via
the telephone numbers below:

Donna Beecher 914-644-2150

Linda Kerkam 914-682-0592

Julie Leahy 617-743-3199

Joyce Juliano-Pais 732-818-7806

Thomas J. Louden, Jr 215-451-2758

Rich Boland, Manager 215-451-0203

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From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ed Leatherman
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 4:23 PM
To: Robert Kulagowski
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Updating the E911 database

We had to get PS-ALI service through verizon for this. The folks at the
PSAP really didnt know what we even wanted, so we had to go with what
Verizon told us. We're not paying that muchfor it though, I think its
$10/month per block of 100 records, with aminimum number of blocks that
we have to purchase. Verizon is our local carrier though.

On 4/3/07, Robert Kulagowski <bob@smalltime.com> wrote:

We're consolidating offices in NY; two officeswill move into the same
building onto different floors.

ATT is going to be our LD and Local provider (last mile is probably
Verizon). We use cisco Emergency Responder. In Illinois, you used to
be able to tell Ameritech "These DIDs are on floor X, and these are on
floor Y", configure the ELINs in CER to route to those particular DIDs
and you were good.

In NY, ATT says they don't do that,and that you have to contact a 3rd
party to get the information updated in the PSAP database.

Since I'm going to use two DIDs per floor, that means that I need four
all together. Two of them shouldalready show that they're on floor X -

I need to get the remaining two to show that they're on floor Y.

ATT sent a Word doc that had 911 ETC, Redsky and OM2 Technology as SLI
(Station-level Identification) vendors. Since I've already got CER, are

there anyvendors that will just update the two numbers and call it a
day? Theone response that I've got back is something like $3K, and
then another $312 monthly, which seems pretty steep for something that's

not going to change. They all seem to be geared around doing
moves-adds-changes and updating the PSAP, which isn't required with CER.

Does anyone have any other vendors that do these database updates? Am I

doing this the hard way if there's a much cheaper / easier way to do
this?
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Ed Leatherman
Senior Voice Engineer
West Virginia University
Telecommunications and Network Operations

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