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Jeremie Ceintrey

2007-06-26, 1:11 pm

Hi,

my question is about CTI communications with Callmanager.

Pilot points and CTI Route points are both logical channels that receive
incoming communication demands on a defined phone
number, and forward the communication to a defined CTI channel.

Can anyone explain me difference between these two ways of forwarding calls
to CTI channels.

Thanks.
jé.

Ryan Ratliff

2007-06-26, 1:11 pm

Typically the CTI RP is used to accept incoming calls, and it will =

then redirect to CTI Port to handle media. No RTP is streamed to the =

CTI RP itself.
The Jtapi developers guide probably has more info.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/voicesw/ps556/ =

products_programming_usage_guide_chapter
09186a00806eb6f6.html#wp1028878

-Ryan

On Jun 26, 2007, at 11:03 AM, Jeremie Ceintrey wrote:

Hi,

my question is about CTI communications with Callmanager.

Pilot points and CTI Route points are both logical channels that =

receive incoming communication demands on a defined phone
number, and forward the communication to a defined CTI channel.

Can anyone explain me difference between these two ways of forwarding =

calls to CTI channels.

Thanks.
j=E9.


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Jeremie Ceintrey

2007-06-27, 7:11 am

Thanks for your help. I understand that. But I still don't get the
difference between RP and Pilot Point. When you use CTI applications you can
use both techniques to forward incomming calls to CTI Ports :

- Pilot Point, Hunt Group, with the attendant console user


- Route Point with the JTAPI user

Thanks.
Jé.


2007/6/26, Ryan Ratliff <rratliff@cisco.com>:
>
> Typically the CTI RP is used to accept incoming calls, and it will
> then redirect to CTI Port to handle media. No RTP is streamed to the
> CTI RP itself.
> The Jtapi developers guide probably has more info.
>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/voicesw/ps556/
> products_programming_usage_guide_chapter
09186a00806eb6f6.html#wp1028878
>
> -Ryan
>
> On Jun 26, 2007, at 11:03 AM, Jeremie Ceintrey wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> my question is about CTI communications with Callmanager.
>
> Pilot points and CTI Route points are both logical channels that
> receive incoming communication demands on a defined phone
> number, and forward the communication to a defined CTI channel.
>
> Can anyone explain me difference between these two ways of forwarding
> calls to CTI channels.
>
> Thanks.
> jé.
>
>
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Ryan Ratliff

2007-06-27, 1:11 pm

It depends on what CTI application you are using. AC itself is a CTI =

application that you just happen to be able to configure via =

CCMAdmin. An AC pilot point is for all intents and purposes a CTI =

RP. Instead of redirecting to a CTI Port however it sends calls to =

phones configured in the hunt group.

IPCC Express, and every other CTI application that might be out there =

will have to use CTI RPs and Ports.

-Ryan

On Jun 27, 2007, at 4:03 AM, Jeremie Ceintrey wrote:

Thanks for your help. I understand that. But I still don't get the =

difference between RP and Pilot Point. When you use CTI applications =

you can use both techniques to forward incomming calls to CTI Ports :
Pilot Point, Hunt Group, with the attendant console user
Route Point with the JTAPI user
Thanks.
J=E9.


2007/6/26, Ryan Ratliff <rratliff@cisco.com>: Typically the CTI RP is =

used to accept incoming calls, and it will
then redirect to CTI Port to handle media. No RTP is streamed to the
CTI RP itself.
The Jtapi developers guide probably has more info.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/voicesw/ps556/
products_programming_usage_guide_chapter
09186a00806eb6f6.html#wp1028878

-Ryan

On Jun 26, 2007, at 11:03 AM, Jeremie Ceintrey wrote:

Hi,

my question is about CTI communications with Callmanager.

Pilot points and CTI Route points are both logical channels that
receive incoming communication demands on a defined phone
number, and forward the communication to a defined CTI channel.

Can anyone explain me difference between these two ways of forwarding
calls to CTI channels.

Thanks.
j=E9.


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Matthew Saskin

2007-06-27, 1:11 pm

This is purely a theory, but wouldn't using an AC pilot point and a hunt =

group be a way of psuedo-load-balancing connections into a CTI =

application such as CRS server acting purely as an IVR (not running IPCC =

Express)? Can the CTI route points which CRS server registers be placed =

into a hunt group?

Just thinking that this would be an alternative method of doing IVR =

load-balancing for an IPCC enterprise environment (where you currently =

can accomplish load balancing only within the routing script itself). I =

can't see any reason to use this (i.e.; it doesn't provide additional =

functionality), but would be interesting to see if it works.

-matt

Ryan Ratliff wrote:
> It depends on what CTI application you are using. AC itself is a CTI =


> application that you just happen to be able to configure via =


> CCMAdmin. An AC pilot point is for all intents and purposes a CTI =


> RP. Instead of redirecting to a CTI Port however it sends calls to =


> phones configured in the hunt group.
> =


> IPCC Express, and every other CTI application that might be out there =


> will have to use CTI RPs and Ports.
> =


> -Ryan
> =


> On Jun 27, 2007, at 4:03 AM, Jeremie Ceintrey wrote:
> =


> Thanks for your help. I understand that. But I still don't get the =


> difference between RP and Pilot Point. When you use CTI applications =


> you can use both techniques to forward incomming calls to CTI Ports :
> Pilot Point, Hunt Group, with the attendant console user
> Route Point with the JTAPI user
> Thanks.
> J=E9.
> =


> =


> 2007/6/26, Ryan Ratliff <rratliff@cisco.com>: Typically the CTI RP is =


> used to accept incoming calls, and it will
> then redirect to CTI Port to handle media. No RTP is streamed to the
> CTI RP itself.
> The Jtapi developers guide probably has more info.
> =


> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/voicesw/ps556/
> products_programming_usage_guide_chapter
09186a00806eb6f6.html#wp1028878
> =


> -Ryan
> =


> On Jun 26, 2007, at 11:03 AM, Jeremie Ceintrey wrote:
> =


> Hi,
> =


> my question is about CTI communications with Callmanager.
> =


> Pilot points and CTI Route points are both logical channels that
> receive incoming communication demands on a defined phone
> number, and forward the communication to a defined CTI channel.
> =


> Can anyone explain me difference between these two ways of forwarding
> calls to CTI channels.
> =


> Thanks.
> j=E9.
> =


> =


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Ryan Ratliff

2007-06-27, 7:11 pm

CTI devices in a hunt list is not supported, and in fact CTI devices =

should not even show up to be added to a line group for a hunt list. =

For an AC hunt group I'm not sure what would happen.

-Ryan

On Jun 27, 2007, at 12:33 PM, Matthew Saskin wrote:

This is purely a theory, but wouldn't using an AC pilot point and a hunt
group be a way of psuedo-load-balancing connections into a CTI
application such as CRS server acting purely as an IVR (not running IPCC
Express)? Can the CTI route points which CRS server registers be placed
into a hunt group?

Just thinking that this would be an alternative method of doing IVR
load-balancing for an IPCC enterprise environment (where you currently
can accomplish load balancing only within the routing script itself). I
can't see any reason to use this (i.e.; it doesn't provide additional
functionality), but would be interesting to see if it works.

-matt

Ryan Ratliff wrote:
> It depends on what CTI application you are using. AC itself is a CTI
> application that you just happen to be able to configure via
> CCMAdmin. An AC pilot point is for all intents and purposes a CTI
> RP. Instead of redirecting to a CTI Port however it sends calls to
> phones configured in the hunt group.
>
> IPCC Express, and every other CTI application that might be out there
> will have to use CTI RPs and Ports.
>
> -Ryan
>
> On Jun 27, 2007, at 4:03 AM, Jeremie Ceintrey wrote:
>
> Thanks for your help. I understand that. But I still don't get the
> difference between RP and Pilot Point. When you use CTI applications
> you can use both techniques to forward incomming calls to CTI Ports :
> Pilot Point, Hunt Group, with the attendant console user
> Route Point with the JTAPI user
> Thanks.
> J=E9.
>
>
> 2007/6/26, Ryan Ratliff <rratliff@cisco.com>: Typically the CTI RP is
> used to accept incoming calls, and it will
> then redirect to CTI Port to handle media. No RTP is streamed to the
> CTI RP itself.
> The Jtapi developers guide probably has more info.
>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/voicesw/ps556/
> products_programming_usage_guide_chapter
09186a00806eb6f6.html#wp102887 =


> 8
>
> -Ryan
>
> On Jun 26, 2007, at 11:03 AM, Jeremie Ceintrey wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> my question is about CTI communications with Callmanager.
>
> Pilot points and CTI Route points are both logical channels that
> receive incoming communication demands on a defined phone
> number, and forward the communication to a defined CTI channel.
>
> Can anyone explain me difference between these two ways of forwarding
> calls to CTI channels.
>
> Thanks.
> j=E9.
>
>
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