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Freetalk/Sipgate - Which is best ?
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| www.crystal-power.co.uk 2005-09-30, 5:45 pm |
| We were thinking of signing up to this service as it seems so cheap but
am i correct in thinking it is owned by the Dixons retail group,if so
are they reliable in terms of service.
Also i was just on the verge of signing up for a sipgate local number
but after reading the bad press on here by a poster calling himslef
dexter and also after reading about the outage today i think we will be
fogetting them.
Anyway what are your opinions of Freetalk, do you know anyone who is
actually using the service yet?
Any comments welcome from all you knowledgable folk
Regards
Crystal
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| Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk 2005-09-30, 5:45 pm |
| On 30 Sep 2005 13:46:10 -0700, "www.crystal-power.co.uk"
<crystalpoweruk@gmail.com> wrote:
>Any comments welcome from all you knowledgable folk
The price is right at 23p a day for what you get, are they reliable
who knows . The sign up procedure is the same has Vonage so is what
you get for your money but with the PCWorld group involved think twice
before parting with money .
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| Brian A 2005-09-30, 5:45 pm |
| On 30 Sep 2005 13:46:10 -0700, "www.crystal-power.co.uk"
<crystalpoweruk@gmail.com> wrote:
>We were thinking of signing up to this service as it seems so cheap but
>am i correct in thinking it is owned by the Dixons retail group,if so
>are they reliable in terms of service.
>
>Also i was just on the verge of signing up for a sipgate local number
>but after reading the bad press on here by a poster calling himslef
>dexter and also after reading about the outage today i think we will be
>fogetting them.
>
>Anyway what are your opinions of Freetalk, do you know anyone who is
>actually using the service yet?
>
>Any comments welcome from all you knowledgable folk
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>Regards
>
>Crystal
There are other providers. Check out
voipfone.co.uk
and for free calls, but currently ,no incoming number
voipbuster.com
if you join PlusNet there's Plustalk
Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.
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| Ivor Jones 2005-09-30, 8:45 pm |
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"www.crystal-power.co.uk" <crystalpoweruk@gmail.com> wrote
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news:1128113170.035864.7750@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
> We were thinking of signing up to this service as it
> seems so cheap but am i correct in thinking it is owned
> by the Dixons retail group,if so are they reliable in
> terms of service.
>
> Also i was just on the verge of signing up for a sipgate
> local number but after reading the bad press on here by a
> poster calling himslef dexter and also after reading
> about the outage today i think we will be fogetting them.
Don't make judgements purely on the opinions of one person. Dexter is well
known on this group for his dislike (verging on hatred it seems to me) of
Sipgate, he has had a bad experience which by no means mirrors the level
of service experienced by the majority.
The outage today lasted for a total of five minutes, hardly enough to
warrant not even trying the service. It is free after all, there is no
monthly charge unlike most of the others, you only pay for calls to the
PSTN.
> Anyway what are your opinions of Freetalk, do you know
> anyone who is actually using the service yet?
Well it's only been running a few days so I expect it will take a while
for user reports to filter through, but the £6.99 a month means I won't be
trying it.
> Any comments welcome from all you knowledgable folk
Watch this space..!
Ivor
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| Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk 2005-09-30, 8:45 pm |
| On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 00:28:04 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
> but the £6.99 a month means I won't be
>trying it.
This was anticipated and a forgone conclusion
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| Ivor Jones 2005-09-30, 8:45 pm |
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<Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 00:28:04 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
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> This was anticipated and a forgone conclusion
Dexter, if someone wants me to use their system they are going to have to
let me try it out without wasting money.
*If* once I've tried it I like it, then I *might* just possibly be
convinced to pay for continuing service, but to have to shell out just to
try it..? No chance, I work hard for my money and I have no intention of
wasting it.
Ivor
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| Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk 2005-09-30, 8:45 pm |
| On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 00:56:08 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>*If* once I've tried it I like it, then I *might* just possibly be
>convinced to pay for continuing service, but to have to shell out just to
>try it..? No chance, I work hard for my money and I have no intention of
>wasting it.
I never knew BT or Telewest gave free trials ah well you learn
something new every day .
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| Ivor Jones 2005-09-30, 8:45 pm |
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<Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 00:56:08 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
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> I never knew BT or Telewest gave free trials ah well you
> learn something new every day .
Not the same thing and you know it.
Ivor
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| David Floyd 2005-10-01, 2:45 am |
| In message of Sat, 1 Oct 2005, Ivor Jones writes
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><Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>Not the same thing and you know it.
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>Ivor
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Ivor, you're at it again. Just SHUTUP and stop feeding the troll.
DF
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| On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 00:56:08 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
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>*If* once I've tried it I like it, then I *might* just possibly be
>convinced to pay for continuing service, but to have to shell out just to
>try it..? No chance, I work hard for my money and I have no intention of
>wasting it.
If you try the Freetalk monthly plan it comes with a 14 day trial
(with conditions of course)
http://www.freetalk.co.uk/TermsConditions.aspx
John
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| Ivor Jones 2005-10-01, 7:45 am |
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"Me" <me@you.con> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 00:56:08 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
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> If you try the Freetalk monthly plan it comes with a 14
> day trial (with conditions of course)
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> http://www.freetalk.co.uk/TermsConditions.aspx
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> John
Hmm, well that's something I suppose, but looking at their site it seems
to me I still have to use their ATA..? I have a spare port on one of my
own, what if I want to use that..?
Ivor
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| Ivor Jones 2005-10-02, 5:45 pm |
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<Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 11:12:56 +0100, davew
> <daviey.walker*SPAM*virgin.net> wrote:
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> Thank you , you know the real problem is some people are
> not prepaired to accept the truth Ivor says he will not
> pay to use a service before getting a chance to try it
> out . Now the only way to try out any VOIP service in my
> opinion is to make a few calls to a BT or TW line and
> back to voip providers number from same. The only way to
> try out Ivor's beloved Sipgate in this way IS to pay out
> money you cannot make calls to the PSTN with Sipgate any
> other way .
Yes you can, 0800 numbers. Plenty of those about to try.
Ivor
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| Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk 2005-10-02, 5:45 pm |
| On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 15:53:04 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>Yes you can, 0800 numbers. Plenty of those about to try.
So you are saying it it ok for someone to try out Sipgate and make
someone else do the paying for the call ,someone has to pay for calls
to 0800's .
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| Ivor Jones 2005-10-02, 5:45 pm |
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<Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 15:53:04 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
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> So you are saying it it ok for someone to try out Sipgate
> and make someone else do the paying for the call ,someone
> has to pay for calls to 0800's .
Why not..? People who set up 0800 numbers presumably want people to call
them and are therefore prepared to pay for it.
Ivor
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> Yes you can, 0800 numbers. Plenty of those about to try.
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> Ivor
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And you can honestly say you did this before you committed any money to
them?
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| Ivor Jones 2005-10-02, 5:45 pm |
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"davew" <daviey.walker*SPAM*virgin.net> wrote in message
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> And you can honestly say you did this before you
> committed any money to them?
Yes, of course I did. One of the things pointed out on the Sipgate site is
that calls to 0800 numbers can be made as part of the test to see if the
service is suitable for you.
Ivor
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| Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk 2005-10-02, 5:45 pm |
| On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 17:31:02 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>Why not..? People who set up 0800 numbers presumably want people to call
>them and are therefore prepared to pay for it.
Why no? he says I bet you wouldn't be all that pleased if someone was
using an 0800 number that you had to pay for just to try out Sipgate
or some other provider for that matter .
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| Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk 2005-10-02, 5:45 pm |
| On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 18:06:11 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
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>"davew" <daviey.walker*SPAM*virgin.net> wrote in message
>news:aZCdnQ4mGuQAjd3eRVnytA@pipex.net
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>Yes, of course I did. One of the things pointed out on the Sipgate site is
>that calls to 0800 numbers can be made as part of the test to see if the
>service is suitable for you.
What a typical NAZI attitude .
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| Ivor Jones 2005-10-02, 5:45 pm |
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<Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 17:31:02 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
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> Why no? he says I bet you wouldn't be all that pleased if
> someone was using an 0800 number that you had to pay for
> just to try out Sipgate or some other provider for that
> matter .
I would hardly set up an 0800 number if I wasn't prepared to pay for it,
now would I..?
Who knows, such a call might end up generating the company concerned
business. I would hazard a guess that most companies who use 0800 numbers
factor in a percentage of wasted calls into their costs.
Ivor
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| Ivor Jones 2005-10-02, 5:45 pm |
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<Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 18:06:11 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
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> What a typical NAZI attitude .
The phrase "losing the plot" comes to mind...
Ivor
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| Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
> What a typical NAZI attitude .
Godwin's Law invoked. Plonk!
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