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2005-10-19, 5:45 pm

Is it possible to have two accounts on one line?

For example sipgate for incoming calls and then voipbuster for outgoing
calls - both on one line, without having to have one service on one line and
one on the other?


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{{{{{Welcome}}}}}

2005-10-19, 5:45 pm

Thus spaketh {{{{{Welcome}}}}}:
> Is it possible to have two accounts on one line?
>
> For example sipgate for incoming calls and then voipbuster for
> outgoing calls - both on one line, without having to have one service
> on one line and one on the other?



I have the PAP2 working fine with Sipgate, I have a problem however with
VoIPBuster.

I have one way audio, have set port forwarding, tried DMZ, yet still the same
problem, the other person can hear myself but I can not hear them.



Phil Thompson

2005-10-19, 5:45 pm

On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:37:16 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
<bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>Is it possible to have two accounts on one line?


can't see how, there are two parallel sets of settings - one per port.

Phil
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Arcos

2005-10-19, 5:45 pm

It is possible (for outgoing calls) to do it using dialplan
(configuration with prefix) but it is not working on my PAP2. For
incomming calls you can configurate 2 accounts on different lines and
make forward from one line to another (by configuration on PAP2 line).

Arcos

Al

2005-10-19, 5:45 pm

On 14 Oct 2005 11:41:59 -0700, Arcos wrote:

>For
>incomming calls you can configurate 2 accounts on different lines and
>make forward from one line to another (by configuration on PAP2 line).


Would you care to give instructions of exactly how to achieve this?
{{{{{Welcome}}}}}

2005-10-19, 5:45 pm

Thus spaketh Arcos:
> It is possible (for outgoing calls) to do it using dialplan
> (configuration with prefix) but it is not working on my PAP2. For
> incomming calls you can configurate 2 accounts on different lines and
> make forward from one line to another (by configuration on PAP2 line).
>
> Arcos


Any idea on how to solve the one way audio with VoIP Buster? Works fine via
software, tried various things but still one way.


peter

2005-10-19, 5:45 pm


{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
> Thus spaketh Arcos:
>
> Any idea on how to solve the one way audio with VoIP Buster? Works fine via
> software, tried various things but still one way.


Yeah - search for PAP2 on this forum - several ppl have had probs with
PAP2 and VB and solved them.

Arcos

2005-10-19, 5:45 pm

In USER 2 you have something like "Cfwd All Dest:".
You should configurate it like:
USER-ID-FROM-LINE-1@YOUR.LOCAL.IP:SIP-PORT-FROM-LINE-1.
Example: john8@192.168.1.100:5060

Arcos.

{{{{{Welcome}}}}}

2005-10-19, 5:45 pm

Thus spaketh peter:
> {{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
>
> Yeah - search for PAP2 on this forum - several ppl have had probs with
> PAP2 and VB and solved them.


Had done a search, there was various solutions but non of them worked for me,
I have now however managed to find a solution that does work!

Thanks


Nick

2005-10-19, 5:45 pm


"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Thus spaketh peter:
>
> Had done a search, there was various solutions but non of them worked for

me,
> I have now however managed to find a solution that does work!
>
> Thanks
>
>

So how about telling us so we will know for future use.


Phil Thompson

2005-10-19, 5:45 pm

On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 19:13:58 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
<bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>I have now however managed to find a solution that does work!


which is ?

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{{{{{Welcome}}}}}

2005-10-19, 5:45 pm

Thus spaketh Phil Thompson:
> On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 19:13:58 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
> <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> which is ?
>
> Phil



Goto SIP Tab, NAT Support Parameters section and set:

Handle VIA received: YES
Insert VIA received: YES
Handle VIA rport: YES
Insert VIA rport: YES
STUN Enable: YES
STUN Server: stun.fwdnet.net:3478

Then goto Line 1 tab, Proxy and Registration section and set:

Use Outbound Proxy: YES

Use OB Proxy In Dialog: YES
Proxy: stun.voipbuster.com
Outbound Proxy:: nat.voiptalk.org:5065


Then goto Line 1 tab, Subscriber Information section and set:

Display Name: <what you want to be shown in caller id>
User ID: <your user id>
Password: <your password>
Use Auth ID: NO
Auth ID: <blank>


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{{{{{Welcome}}}}}

2005-10-19, 5:45 pm

Thus spaketh {{{{{Welcome}}}}}:
> Is it possible to have two accounts on one line?
>
> For example sipgate for incoming calls and then voipbuster for
> outgoing calls - both on one line, without having to have one service
> on one line and one on the other?



Next question I haven't found a working solution for yet, anyone have an idea
on how to get MOH to work? Any free servers?


Scope

2005-10-19, 5:45 pm

Arcos wrote:
> In USER 2 you have something like "Cfwd All Dest:".
> You should configurate it like:
> USER-ID-FROM-LINE-1@YOUR.LOCAL.IP:SIP-PORT-FROM-LINE-1.
> Example: john8@192.168.1.100:5060
>
> Arcos.
>

Arcos,

Have you actually seen this working? I've been trying this all night,
but no luck.. I would REALLY want port1 forwarded to port2, but cant
seem to get it working.

What other settings do you need to set?
{{{{{Welcome}}}}}

2005-10-19, 5:45 pm

Thus spaketh {{{{{Welcome}}}}}:


I have set up the dial tone to: 350@-10,440@-12;10(*/0/1+2) also altered other
tones to re-create UK setting.

Also set up several of the Ring Cadence settings, for example :
60(.4/.2,.4./2) for UK ringing pattern.

With the dial tones I understand the number before the @ to be the frequency
and the number after the @ to be the dB level, but does anyone have any idea
what the details after the semi-colon is, and what each setting does.

Also what do each number in the cadence mean/alter, is this .4 seconds on, .2
seconds off? What's the 60 for?

I have spent ages with google and yahoo, yet find nothing.

Thanks in advance for any help.


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{{{{{Welcome}}}}}

2005-10-19, 5:45 pm

Thus spaketh {{{{{Welcome}}}}}:
> Thus spaketh {{{{{Welcome}}}}}:
>
>
> I have set up the dial tone to: 350@-10,440@-12;10(*/0/1+2) also
> altered other tones to re-create UK setting.
>
> Also set up several of the Ring Cadence settings, for example :
> 60(.4/.2,.4./2) for UK ringing pattern.



Have set now to: 60(.5/.4,.7./1.8) as this sounds closer to the UK ringing
pattern I am used to, however still not sure what the 60 is for.


>
> With the dial tones I understand the number before the @ to be the
> frequency and the number after the @ to be the dB level, but does
> anyone have any idea what the details after the semi-colon is, and
> what each setting does.
> Also what do each number in the cadence mean/alter, is this .4
> seconds on, .2 seconds off? What's the 60 for?
>
> I have spent ages with google and yahoo, yet find nothing.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.




Nick

2005-10-19, 5:45 pm

Is it the volume level?

"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Thus spaketh {{{{{Welcome}}}}}:
>
>
> Have set now to: 60(.5/.4,.7./1.8) as this sounds closer to the UK ringing
> pattern I am used to, however still not sure what the 60 is for.
>
>
>
>
>



Dave Gill

2005-10-19, 5:45 pm

{{{{{Welcome}}}}} <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

> Have set now to: 60(.5/.4,.7./1.8) as this sounds closer to the UK ringing
> pattern I am used to, however still not sure what the 60 is for.


The 60 is the length of one ring cycle (60 = 6.0 seconds).

The standard UK ring pattern is: 30(.4/.2,.4/2)

Ie: 0.4 sec ring on + 0.2 sec ring off + 0.4 sec ring on + 2 sec ring
off = ring duration of 3.0 seconds.

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{{{{{Welcome}}}}}

2005-10-19, 5:45 pm

Thus spaketh Dave Gill:
> {{{{{Welcome}}}}} <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> The 60 is the length of one ring cycle (60 = 6.0 seconds).
>
> The standard UK ring pattern is: 30(.4/.2,.4/2)
>
> Ie: 0.4 sec ring on + 0.2 sec ring off + 0.4 sec ring on + 2 sec ring
> off = ring duration of 3.0 seconds.


Right, thanks, will see what difference the 30 makes.

I tried the (.4/.2,.4/2) which I picked up from elsewhere, but it just doesn't
quite sound exact, hence changing it to (.5/.4,.7./1.8) which matched what I
have been used to all these years.

Any idea about ;10(*/0/1+2) in the dial tone?


{{{{{Welcome}}}}}

2005-10-19, 5:45 pm

Thus spaketh {{{{{Welcome}}}}}:
> Thus spaketh Dave Gill:
>
> Right, thanks, will see what difference the 30 makes.
>
> I tried the (.4/.2,.4/2) which I picked up from elsewhere, but it
> just doesn't quite sound exact, hence changing it to (.5/.4,.7./1.8)
> which matched what I have been used to all these years.
>
> Any idea about ;10(*/0/1+2) in the dial tone?


With 30(.4/.2,.4/2) the second ring is as can been seen slightly too short,
the 2nd ring should be slightly longer than the first.


Dave Gill

2005-10-19, 5:45 pm

{{{{{Welcome}}}}} <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:


> With 30(.4/.2,.4/2) the second ring is as can been seen slightly too short,
> the 2nd ring should be slightly longer than the first.


It might sound longer (especially on a phone with a proper bell type
ringer) but the international specs for the UK ring pattern have the
second ring the same length as the first.

Have a listen to this: http://tinyurl.com/7lfor

That's 30(.4/.2,.4/2).


Dunno what the other numbers are that you were asking about, sorry.

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{{{{{Welcome}}}}}

2005-10-19, 5:45 pm

Thus spaketh Dave Gill:
> {{{{{Welcome}}}}} <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> It might sound longer (especially on a phone with a proper bell type
> ringer) but the international specs for the UK ring pattern have the
> second ring the same length as the first.
>
> Have a listen to this: http://tinyurl.com/7lfor
>
> That's 30(.4/.2,.4/2).
>
>


Strange, that does sound right, and as you say it could be because of the
bell, however I have the same effect on my dect and non-bell phones on a BT
landline.

It just doesn't sound quite what I am used to hearing when using the correct
spec.



Sean

2005-10-19, 5:45 pm

{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
> Thus spaketh Dave Gill:
>
>
>
> Strange, that does sound right, and as you say it could be because of the
> bell, however I have the same effect on my dect and non-bell phones on a BT
> landline.
>
> It just doesn't sound quite what I am used to hearing when using the correct
> spec.
>
>
>

I dont notice the second one longer
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