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{{{{{Welcome}}}}}

2005-11-06, 8:45 pm

I have noticed today that Sipgate now sends your complete phone number and not
just the SIP number, ie 0121 314 nnnn and not just 314nnnn.

I am sure you can work out what this now means (yes it does work).


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Mark

2005-11-06, 8:45 pm

{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
> I have noticed today that Sipgate now sends your complete phone number and not
> just the SIP number, ie 0121 314 nnnn and not just 314nnnn.
>
> I am sure you can work out what this now means (yes it does work).
>
>


Mine has always sent the full number AFAIK

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{{{{{Welcome}}}}}

2005-11-06, 8:45 pm

Thus spaketh Mark:
> {{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
>
> Mine has always sent the full number AFAIK


Mine never as did others I have heard, hence we couldn't use a certain well
known provider of many services (until now).


Ivor Jones

2005-11-06, 8:45 pm



"Mark" <nospam@this.pc> wrote in message
news:lD4bf.1391$Lw5.1129@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk
> {{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
>
> Mine has always sent the full number AFAIK


Sometimes in my call list on the website I get the SIP ID alone, other
times I get the full PSTN number. Very odd.

Ivor


Brian A

2005-11-06, 8:45 pm

On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 15:58:42 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
<bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>Thus spaketh Mark:
>
>Mine never as did others I have heard, hence we couldn't use a certain well
>known provider of many services (until now).

Great! Thanks for that info. Let's not shout about it though else it
won't last for long.


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Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk

2005-11-06, 8:45 pm

On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 15:49:21 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
<bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

> Sipgate

How dare you use such obscene language on a Sunday ))) .
Brian A

2005-11-06, 8:45 pm

On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 01:29:37 GMT, Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:

>On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 15:49:21 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
><bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>How dare you use such obscene language on a Sunday ))) .

When I dial through Sipgate, to a service that requires the sending of
DTMF tones, it appears that the tones are blocked - is this normal for
Sipgate?

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Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk

2005-11-06, 8:45 pm

On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 12:49:26 GMT, Brian A
<no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 01:29:37 GMT, Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
>
>When I dial through Sipgate, to a service that requires the sending of
>DTMF tones, it appears that the tones are blocked - is this normal for
>Sipgate?

Ha ha don't start me off Brian anything is normal for Sipgate no
service at all is normal for Sipgate ))))))))))))))))))))))))).
{{{{{Welcome}}}}}

2005-11-06, 8:45 pm

Thus spaketh Brian A:
> On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 01:29:37 GMT, Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
>
> When I dial through Sipgate, to a service that requires the sending of
> DTMF tones, it appears that the tones are blocked - is this normal for
> Sipgate?
>
> Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.


No, it will be how you have set up your software or ATA for sending tones.


Roger Barrett

2005-11-06, 8:45 pm


"Brian A" <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:kfurm153fq6tv3pojms1dt7fbk4prcqe3n@
4ax.com...
> On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 01:29:37 GMT, Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
>
> When I dial through Sipgate, to a service that requires the sending of
> DTMF tones, it appears that the tones are blocked - is this normal for
> Sipgate?
>
> Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.

Brian
if you have an option on your ATA to set the DTMF type set it to INFO. If
you are using Xlite then the DTMF wont work.
Roger.


{{{{{Welcome}}}}}

2005-11-06, 8:45 pm

Thus spaketh Roger Barrett:
> "Brian A" <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:kfurm153fq6tv3pojms1dt7fbk4prcqe3n@
4ax.com...
> Brian
> if you have an option on your ATA to set the DTMF type set it to
> INFO. If you are using Xlite then the DTMF wont work.
> Roger.


With X-Lite go into Advanced System Settings, DTMF settings, and change DTMF
force send inband to YES.


Brian A

2005-11-06, 8:45 pm

On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 14:12:18 GMT, "Roger Barrett"
<roger_barrett@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>"Brian A" <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:kfurm153fq6tv3pojms1dt7fbk4prcqe3n@
4ax.com...
>Brian
>if you have an option on your ATA to set the DTMF type set it to INFO. If
>you are using Xlite then the DTMF wont work.
>Roger.
>

DTMF Process INFO : Yes
DTMF Process AVT: Yes
DTMF Tx Method: Auto *

*Also tried on INFO - made no difference.

I tried 0800 800 150
If I call via voipfone all is well, if I use Sipgate there is no
response to my entries.
Thus, I concluded that it must be Sipgate - still think it could be my
ATA?

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{{{{{Welcome}}}}}

2005-11-06, 8:45 pm

Thus spaketh Brian A:
> On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 14:12:18 GMT, "Roger Barrett"
> <roger_barrett@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> DTMF Process INFO : Yes
> DTMF Process AVT: Yes
> DTMF Tx Method: Auto *
>
> *Also tried on INFO - made no difference.
>
> I tried 0800 800 150
> If I call via voipfone all is well, if I use Sipgate there is no
> response to my entries.
> Thus, I concluded that it must be Sipgate - still think it could be my
> ATA?
>
> Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.


I have DTMF Tx Method: INFO set and it works for me.


Brian A

2005-11-06, 8:45 pm

On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:12:40 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
<bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>Thus spaketh Brian A:
>
>I have DTMF Tx Method: INFO set and it works for me.
>

Thanks for your comments. It was useful to know that because it meant
something else must be wrong. I found that it was the way I was
dialling the number I required. I could get through OK but then it
took no notice of my key presses.
I was using:
P3 <:08xxxxxxxxx><:@gw1>
where 08xxxxxxxxx is the number I was calling.
That did work via another operator at one time but apparently not on
Sipgate.
However if dial #01 to access (as in the syntax below) the DTMF tones
go through OK.
<#01,:08xxxxxxxxx><:@gw1>
All solved - let's hope it continues so - if so I will think Sipgate
is wonderful!



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Joe Harrison

2005-11-06, 8:45 pm


"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:SE4bf.1394$Lw5.1280@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> Thus spaketh Mark:
work).[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> Mine never as did others I have heard, hence we couldn't use a certain

well
> known provider of many services (until now).
>


I have no idea what you are talking about and can't even guess. I must be
getting old. For the record however I have never previously noticed Sipgate
sending partial CLI. The only strange thing was that I once had to call BT
Nuisance Calls Bureau from my Sipgate account and the BT guy was very
surprised that my CLI was showing in international format as +44207nnnnnnn

Joe


Ivor Jones

2005-11-06, 8:45 pm



"Brian A" <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:kfurm153fq6tv3pojms1dt7fbk4prcqe3n@
4ax.com
> On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 01:29:37 GMT, Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk
> wrote:
>
> When I dial through Sipgate, to a service that requires
> the sending of DTMF tones, it appears that the tones are
> blocked - is this normal for Sipgate?


You need to ensure that your system is set to send DTMF correctly, as SIP
INFO - on the Sipura range of ATA's for example use INFO in the DTMF TX
field.

Other devices may have a different name for the setting.

Ivor


Ivor Jones

2005-11-06, 8:45 pm



<Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:08vrm1571bibqj70igdh6grrlvanbvd7nv@
4ax.com
> On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 12:49:26 GMT, Brian A
> <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ha ha don't start me off Brian anything is normal for
> Sipgate no service at all is normal for Sipgate
> ))))))))))))))))))))))))).


Do shut up, you know as well as I do that this is a setting on the ATA and
nothing to do with Sipgate or anyone else for that matter.

Set the DTMF TX mode to INFO or SIP INFO and it will work fine.

Ivor


{{{{{Welcome}}}}}

2005-11-06, 8:45 pm

Thus spaketh Ivor Jones:
> <Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:08vrm1571bibqj70igdh6grrlvanbvd7nv@
4ax.com
>
> Do shut up, you know as well as I do that this is a setting on the
> ATA and nothing to do with Sipgate or anyone else for that matter.
>


I only ever notice Dexter's posts when someone includes them quoted in their
reply.


hairydog@despammed.com

2005-11-08, 5:45 pm

On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 12:55:38 GMT, Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:

>Ha ha don't start me off Brian anything is normal for Sipgate no
>service at all is normal for Sipgate


No brain is clearly normal for you.

DTMF tones are just that: tones. You an make farting noises down the
phone, or you can send words, or even DTMF tones.

Many ATAs are set up to treat tones as control signals to them even in
a call, so they never pass them through. I think you can generally
configure them to pass DTMF, though mine doesn't by default.

Nothing whatever to do with Sipgate, but then again your vendetta is
nothing to do with them either.

Just go away and play.
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