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"Jono" <no@nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:_ZVmf.6645$iz3.493@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> Fancy getting one of these: http://www.provu.co.uk/utstar_f1000.html
>
> Recommendations for & against, please.
A nice I idea, but I would take the option would be to buy a standard SIP
unit and just hook up a standard cordless phone to it. That way you have
the choice of many cheaper cordless phones to use and multiple handsets too
(for much less cost). It also means that you could replace a broken handset
for little cost (should you damage the handset).
802.11b is becoming less popular for use on WiFi and this unit doesn't
appear to support 802.11g
I have read somewhere that the WPA support on this unit is bad and doesn't
work very well, so you might be forced to use WEP to protect your network in
order to get this working properly.
Its expensive compared to other options that achieve similar goals (mobile
SIP phone, see my option above)
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| The Cable Guy 2005-12-11, 5:45 pm |
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"John" <jcb85348675@mail2me.net> wrote in message
news:402ur8F18gttdU1@individual.net...
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> "Jono" <no@nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:_ZVmf.6645$iz3.493@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
> A nice I idea, but I would take the option would be to buy a standard SIP
> unit and just hook up a standard cordless phone to it. That way you have
> the choice of many cheaper cordless phones to use and multiple handsets
> too
> (for much less cost). It also means that you could replace a broken
> handset
> for little cost (should you damage the handset).
>
> 802.11b is becoming less popular for use on WiFi and this unit doesn't
> appear to support 802.11g
>
> I have read somewhere that the WPA support on this unit is bad and doesn't
> work very well, so you might be forced to use WEP to protect your network
> in
> order to get this working properly.
>
> Its expensive compared to other options that achieve similar goals (mobile
> SIP phone, see my option above)
>
Thanks for your thoughts John.
I already have a number of ATAs and thought this might be fun on the move as
well as at home.
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"John" <jcb85348675@mail2me.net> wrote in message
news:402ur8F18gttdU1@individual.net...
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> "Jono" <no@nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:_ZVmf.6645$iz3.493@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
> A nice I idea, but I would take the option would be to buy a standard SIP
> unit and just hook up a standard cordless phone to it. That way you have
> the choice of many cheaper cordless phones to use and multiple handsets
> too
> (for much less cost). It also means that you could replace a broken
> handset
> for little cost (should you damage the handset).
>
> 802.11b is becoming less popular for use on WiFi and this unit doesn't
> appear to support 802.11g
>
> I have read somewhere that the WPA support on this unit is bad and doesn't
> work very well, so you might be forced to use WEP to protect your network
> in
> order to get this working properly.
>
> Its expensive compared to other options that achieve similar goals (mobile
> SIP phone, see my option above)
>
>
Thanks for your thoughts John.
I already have a number of ATAs and thought this might be fun on the move as
well as at home.
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| Ivor Jones 2005-12-11, 5:45 pm |
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"Jono" <no@nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:_ZVmf.6645$iz3.493@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk
> Fancy getting one of these:
> http://www.provu.co.uk/utstar_f1000.html
> Recommendations for & against, please.
Sipgate have them for £119 inc. VAT, they're £139 + VAT on that site.
Still a bit pricey for me though.
Ivor
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| stephen 2005-12-11, 5:45 pm |
| "Jono" <no@nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:_ZVmf.6645$iz3.493@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> Fancy getting one of these: http://www.provu.co.uk/utstar_f1000.html
>
> Recommendations for & against, please.
cisco have had voip 802.11 phones for a while (i deal with their IP
telephony at work sometimes) - say what you like about costs etc, cisco do
put a lot of effort into support.....
if you look here, there is a bunch of info and deployment recommendations,
which may help you (or put you off of course)
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products...5056/index.html
big issue is that to share the air waves effectively when there is other
traffic you need QoS, and the standards for QoS on 802.11 dont seem to be
mature, or widely implemented.
given that at home i need 2 802.11 APs to cover 2 floors + a loft, but the
DECT phone works everywhere off 1 base station, i would stick with DECT for
now.
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Regards
stephen_hope@xyzworld.com - replace xyz with ntl
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| www.payasyougo.me.uk 2005-12-11, 5:45 pm |
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> A nice I idea, but I would take the option would be to buy a standard SIP
> unit and just hook up a standard cordless phone to it. That way you have
> the choice of many cheaper cordless phones to use and multiple handsets
> too
> (for much less cost). It also means that you could replace a broken
> handset
> for little cost (should you damage the handset).
>
> 802.11b is becoming less popular for use on WiFi and this unit doesn't
> appear to support 802.11g
>
> I have read somewhere that the WPA support on this unit is bad and doesn't
> work very well, so you might be forced to use WEP to protect your network
> in
> order to get this working properly.
>
> Its expensive compared to other options that achieve similar goals (mobile
> SIP phone, see my option above)
>
Will this work with out the need to contect it to a laptop or pc?
Ta
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www.payasyougo.me.uk wrote:
||| A nice I idea, but I would take the option would be to buy a standard
||| SIP unit and just hook up a standard cordless phone to it. That way
||| you have the choice of many cheaper cordless phones to use and
||| multiple handsets too
||| (for much less cost). It also means that you could replace a broken
||| handset
||| for little cost (should you damage the handset).
|||
||| 802.11b is becoming less popular for use on WiFi and this unit doesn't
||| appear to support 802.11g
|||
||| I have read somewhere that the WPA support on this unit is bad and
||| doesn't work very well, so you might be forced to use WEP to protect
||| your network in
||| order to get this working properly.
|||
||| Its expensive compared to other options that achieve similar goals
||| (mobile SIP phone, see my option above)
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|| Will this work with out the need to contect it to a laptop or pc?
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|| Ta
That's the idea, yes.
It connects to a Wireless Access Point or Wireless Router
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| www.payasyougo.me.uk 2005-12-11, 5:45 pm |
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> That's the idea, yes.
>
> It connects to a Wireless Access Point or Wireless Router
Yup thats what i thourt but thourt i check.
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| Martin² 2005-12-11, 8:45 pm |
| stephen:
>big issue is that to share the air waves effectively when there is other
>traffic you need QoS, and the standards for QoS on 802.11 dont seem to be
>mature, or widely implemented.
QoS is available on some VOIP enabled routers e.g Draytek , Zyxel2602HWL,
but as you already have VoIP ports a WiFi phone seems to be an overkill.
Personally I am waiting for WiFi VoIP function on mobile phones, some new
Nokia's are already available,
but not cheap enough yet.
Regards,
Martin
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| English please 2005-12-17, 5:45 pm |
| On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:11:54 -0000, "www.payasyougo.me.uk"
<webmaster@(remove_the_spam)pocket.me.uk> wrote:
>Yup thats what i thourt but thourt i check.
Is there an English translation of this available?
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| On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 22:32:44 +0000, English please <q.@.invalid>
wrote:
>On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:11:54 -0000, "www.payasyougo.me.uk"
><webmaster@(remove_the_spam)pocket.me.uk> wrote:
>
>
>Is there an English translation of this available?
"I really am most grateful to you for confirming that my understanding
in this matter was correct. I was fairly sure that I hadn't committed
some elementary faux pas in my comprehension, but one can never be too
sure, so I thought it would be eminently sensible to check that my
appreciation was not too divergent from the truth."
Alternatively,
"Yous the man. Respect."
HTH.
Mike.
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Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem
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| In message
<1134858764.e1c7e8f36ff589c4a7e87751b7f280d1@roc.usenetexchange.com>,
English please <q.?@?.invalid> writes
>On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:11:54 -0000, "www.payasyougo.me.uk"
><webmaster@(remove_the_spam)pocket.me.uk> wrote:
>
>
>Is there an English translation of this available?
>
Just to see what would happen, I put it through Babelfish, translating
from English into German. The German rendition is:
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Yup thats was i thourt aber thourt, die ich überprüfe
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So my guess is that the original was a mixture of English and German
.....
:-))
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Ian
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