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| Andrew Gabriel 2005-07-01, 7:45 am |
| Does anyone have UK dial plan strings which covers all the phone number
formats you might want to dial from a UK PSTN line? I'm programming
a Sipura-3000 VoIP phone, and I'm looking for a suitable dial plan
string. The phone uses something based on MEGACO and MGCP format
apparently. Here's a first stab at all the possibilities, but it's
sure to be incomplete and could do with further breakdown...
999 emergency
1xx. 112, 151, 141..., 1471..., etc.
0[123]xxxxxxxxx STD (not sure if '3' is used anywhere)
07xxxxxxxxx mobile, personal
[2-9]xxxxx local (in 01234, etc areas)
[2-9]xxxxxx local (in 0207, 0118, etc. areas)
0[45689]x. Various things like 0500... and others I don't know
00x. international
[*#]x. network services
Key: x = any single digit
. = zero, one, or more repetitions of previous
[] = any one key from the values or range enclosed
--
Andrew Gabriel
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| Jet Morgan 2005-07-01, 5:46 pm |
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"Andrew Gabriel" <andrew@cucumber.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> [2-9]xxxxxx local (in 0207, 0118, etc. areas)
No such thing as an "0207 area". You got the 0118 right, though.
Richard [in PE12]
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| chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk 2005-07-01, 5:46 pm |
| In uk.telecom Andrew Gabriel <andrew@cucumber.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> [2-9]xxxxx local (in 01234, etc areas)
> [2-9]xxxxxx local (in 0207, 0118, etc. areas)
1. Didn't think any local numbers were supposed to start with 9... unless
anyone here knows different?
2. For 0207 - surely you mean 020 with 8 local digits (relevant when
you block out initial 0, 1, 9 digits from the local part)?
3. What about these sneaky termination numbers such as 0118 0nn nnnn,
which I suppose someone might want to dial, but have to be treated a
All Figure Numbers?
Chris
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| Jet Morgan 2005-07-01, 5:46 pm |
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<chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> wrote in message
news:t00gp2-cku.ln1@news.roaima.co.uk...
> In uk.telecom Andrew Gabriel <andrew@cucumber.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> 1. Didn't think any local numbers were supposed to start with 9... unless
> anyone here knows different?
Certainly some of the director codes in London start with a "9".
I think there's a "911" being Westminster, which was cited as a
reason why we couldn't alis 112/999 to 911 for the benefit of
American tourists.
Richard [in PE12]
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| David Floyd 2005-07-01, 5:46 pm |
| In message of Fri, 1 Jul 2005, Andrew Gabriel writes
>Does anyone have UK dial plan strings which covers all the phone number
>formats you might want to dial from a UK PSTN line? I'm programming
>a Sipura-3000 VoIP phone,
Is there such a thing, or do you mean the SPA-3000 ATA
>and I'm looking for a suitable dial plan
>string. The phone uses something based on MEGACO and MGCP format
>apparently. Here's a first stab at all the possibilities, but it's
>sure to be incomplete and could do with further breakdown...
>
>999 emergency
>1xx. 112, 151, 141..., 1471..., etc.
>0[123]xxxxxxxxx STD (not sure if '3' is used anywhere)
No it's not. But what about exchanges with 5 figures, you would need
0[12]xxxxxxxx. to cover this.
>07xxxxxxxxx mobile, personal
>[2-9]xxxxx local (in 01234, etc areas)
As above, some areas only have 5 digits. So [2-9]xxxx. is required
>[2-9]xxxxxx local (in 0207, 0118, etc. areas)
Not in 02n areas (there is no such area as 0207) and 02n areas have 8
digits local numbers.
>0[45689]x. Various things like 0500... and others I don't know
Currently there are no 04 and 06 numbers (nor 03 as mentioned above)
>00x. international
>[*#]x. network services
>
>Key: x = any single digit
> . = zero, one, or more repetitions of previous
> [] = any one key from the values or range enclosed
>
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| David Floyd 2005-07-01, 5:46 pm |
| In message of Fri, 1 Jul 2005, writes
>In uk.telecom Andrew Gabriel <andrew@cucumber.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>1. Didn't think any local numbers were supposed to start with 9... unless
>anyone here knows different?
>
Most numbers in Bristol start with 9 e.g. 9xx yyyy although some start
with 3 e.g. 3xx yyyy
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| Andrew Gabriel 2005-07-01, 5:46 pm |
| In article <t00gp2-cku.ln1@news.roaima.co.uk>,
chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk writes:
> In uk.telecom Andrew Gabriel <andrew@cucumber.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> 1. Didn't think any local numbers were supposed to start with 9... unless
> anyone here knows different?
The 9 has been used as extra number space since the withdrawal
of local area dialing codes. Actually Reading (0118) is a good
example -- all Reading 01734 numbers were prefixed with a 9
when Reading changed to 0118, so at that point, all local
Reading numbers started with a 9 (except for those Reading
numbers which had been temporarily allocated starting with
a '0' because 01734 had completely run out, as you mentioned
below).
> 2. For 0207 - surely you mean 020 with 8 local digits (relevant when
> you block out initial 0, 1, 9 digits from the local part)?
Oops, yes. I should have known better.
> 3. What about these sneaky termination numbers such as 0118 0nn nnnn,
> which I suppose someone might want to dial, but have to be treated a
> All Figure Numbers?
My dial plan doesn't prevent dialling those, but you have to dial
0118 first, just the same as if you call Reading numbers starting '0'
from within Reading.
So applying Chris, Jet, and David's corrections, I now have...
999 emergency
1xx. 112, 151, 141..., 1471..., etc.
0[12]xxxxxxxxx STD with max local digits
01xxxxxxxx 01234 etc, with 5 digit local
07xxxxxxxxx mobile, personal
[2-9]xxxx local (in 01234, etc areas with 5 digit local)
[2-9]xxxxx local (in 01234, etc areas with 6 digit local)
[2-9]xxxxxx local (in 0118, etc areas)
[378]xxxxxxx local (in 020 area).
0[589]x. Various things like 0500... and others I don't know
00x. international
[*#]x. network services
--
Andrew Gabriel
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| David Floyd 2005-07-01, 5:46 pm |
| In message of Fri, 1 Jul 2005, Andrew Gabriel writes
>
>So applying Chris, Jet, and David's corrections, I now have...
>
Can't understand the need for all this, but:
>0[12]xxxxxxxxx STD with max local digits
>01xxxxxxxx 01234 etc, with 5 digit local
Will there be a contradiction here? Why don't you simply use 0[12]x.
>[2-9]xxxx local (in 01234, etc areas with 5 digit local)
>[2-9]xxxxx local (in 01234, etc areas with 6 digit local)
>[2-9]xxxxxx local (in 0118, etc areas)
Similarly with these, why not [2-9]x.
>[378]xxxxxxx local (in 020 area).
What about other 02n areas?
Why make it so complicated?
David
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| Andrew Gabriel 2005-07-01, 5:46 pm |
| In article <3DVFhimPSXxCFwM5@127.0.0.1>,
David Floyd <david@floyd.org.uk> writes:
> In message of Fri, 1 Jul 2005, Andrew Gabriel writes
>
> Can't understand the need for all this, but:
>
>
> Will there be a contradiction here? Why don't you simply use 0[12]x.
0[12]x. requires a long timeout to detect end of dialling, as the dial
plan gives no clue how long the number might be. In contrast, the first
of mine above requires no timeout as it's not ambigous, and the second
one requires a short timeout, as it's only ambigous with the first.
>
> Similarly with these, why not [2-9]x.
Same reason. I will only insert the ones relevant to the local
area, which means one, or two of them at most.
>
> What about other 02n areas?
What would they be?
But yes, I could just replace the [378] with an x and it would
then work for any 020 numbers which are the same length.
> Why make it so complicated?
Well that's a good question. Actually, I have simplified parts
of it in practice (like merging mobiles into the STD codes as I
don't need to distinguish), but I would like to understand how
the number plan works, and it's been useful to have the errors
pointed out. I was also looking for an unused gap to slot in some
extra numbers for my use over IP, for which I'm currently grabbing
000[1-9]x.
Also just found that the 1xx. entry stops me directly dialling IP
addresses starting 192 (they seem to fall down a hole somewhere
and never succeed or fail, which I need to look into;-).
--
Andrew Gabriel
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| David Floyd 2005-07-01, 5:46 pm |
| In message of Fri, 1 Jul 2005, Andrew Gabriel writes
>In article <3DVFhimPSXxCFwM5@127.0.0.1>,
> David Floyd <david@floyd.org.uk> writes:
>
>What would they be?
Portsmouth, Southampton, Coventry, Cardiff, Northern Ireland. All have 8
digit numbers with various 02n code numbers.
David
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| David Floyd wrote:
> Andrew Gabriel writes
> Portsmouth, Southampton, Coventry, Cardiff, Northern Ireland. All have 8
> digit numbers with various 02n code numbers.
And not all were/are charged as 'local' within the code area.
Owain
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| Robin Fairbairns 2005-07-02, 7:45 am |
| andrew@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel) writes:
>Does anyone have UK dial plan strings which covers all the phone number
>formats you might want to dial from a UK PSTN line?
ofcom website, somewhere, has number allocation tables.
>I'm programming
>a Sipura-3000 VoIP phone, and I'm looking for a suitable dial plan
>string. The phone uses something based on MEGACO and MGCP format
>apparently. Here's a first stab at all the possibilities, but it's
>sure to be incomplete and could do with further breakdown...
>
>999 emergency
>1xx. 112, 151, 141..., 1471..., etc.
>0[123]xxxxxxxxx STD (not sure if '3' is used anywhere)
>07xxxxxxxxx mobile, personal
>[2-9]xxxxx local (in 01234, etc areas)
>[2-9]xxxxxx local (in 0207, 0118, etc. areas)
aargh
>0[45689]x. Various things like 0500... and others I don't know
gosh -- does 0500 still exist? (0345 and 0545 don't, afaik)
--
Robin (http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq) Fairbairns, Cambridge
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| David Wilson Clarke 2005-07-02, 7:45 am |
| Robin Fairbairns wrote:
> gosh -- does 0500 still exist? (0345 and 0545 don't, afaik)
I keep wondering why they haven't got rid of it yet, it seems a bit, out of
place.
Maybe they keep it in case Mercury get going again :}
--
Dave Clarke
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| Andrew Gabriel 2005-07-02, 5:45 pm |
| In article <ftfip2-6vr.ln1@pinguino.site>,
David Wilson Clarke <pinggetridofthisbituino@operamail.com> writes:
> Robin Fairbairns wrote:
>
>
> I keep wondering why they haven't got rid of it yet, it seems a bit, out of
> place.
>
> Maybe they keep it in case Mercury get going again :}
I have noticed Crimewatch still use it, and someone said
Radio 5 Live does (don't listen to Radio 5 myself though).
--
Andrew Gabriel
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| Wireless Reader 2005-07-02, 5:45 pm |
| David Wilson Clarke wrote:
> Robin Fairbairns wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I keep wondering why they haven't got rid of it yet, it seems a bit, out of
> place.
Some users of 0500 numbers protested to Oftel to keep their numbers
during the last round of changes. Whether callers correctly associate
0500 numbers as being free is another matter.
Probably the most widely known such number is 0500 700 700 (National
Missing Persons Helpline).
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| Ivor Jones 2005-07-02, 5:45 pm |
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"David Wilson Clarke" <pinggetridofthisbituino@operamail.com> wrote in
message news:ftfip2-6vr.ln1@pinguino.site...
> Robin Fairbairns wrote:
>
>
> I keep wondering why they haven't got rid of it yet, it seems a bit, out
> of
> place.
>
> Maybe they keep it in case Mercury get going again :}
> --
> Dave Clarke
They've kept it as some big money users like the BBC use it and don't want
to change the numbers they have. (Radio 2 phone-in number on 0500 288291
for example).
Ivor
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| Ivor Jones 2005-07-02, 5:45 pm |
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"Andrew Gabriel" <andrew@cucumber.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:42c69454$0$38039$5a6aecb4@news.aaisp.net.uk...
> In article <ftfip2-6vr.ln1@pinguino.site>,
> David Wilson Clarke <pinggetridofthisbituino@operamail.com> writes:
>
> I have noticed Crimewatch still use it, and someone said
> Radio 5 Live does (don't listen to Radio 5 myself though).
All the BBC national stations do, Radio 2's phone-in number for example is
0500 288291. Perhaps pressure from the BBC is one reason it's still there.
Ivor
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| Vauxhall Victot 2005-07-02, 5:45 pm |
| All London numbers start with 7 or 8 ( soon also 3)
--
Regards
Vauxhall
"Jet Morgan" <jm@paran---andr---.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:t00gp2-cku.ln1@news.roaima.co.uk...
>
> Certainly some of the director codes in London start with a "9".
> I think there's a "911" being Westminster, which was cited as a
> reason why we couldn't alis 112/999 to 911 for the benefit of
> American tourists.
>
> Richard [in PE12]
>
>
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| Peter Morgan - 0870 432 9632 2005-07-02, 5:45 pm |
| On 2 Jul 2005 12:04:47 GMT, rf@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns) wrote:
>gosh -- does 0500 still exist? (0345 and 0545 don't, afaik)
That 0545 was 0645, I think :-) Peter M.
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| Jet Morgan 2005-07-03, 7:45 am |
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"Vauxhall Victot" <Vauxhall.Victor@BTInternet.Com> wrote in message
news:da6jjr$f22$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> All London numbers start with 7 or 8 ( soon also 3)
Aren't there some beginning with "0", so that they have
to be dialed as FQNNs ?
Richard [in PE12]
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| Ivor Jones 2005-07-03, 5:45 pm |
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"Jet Morgan" <jm@paran---andr---.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Vauxhall Victot" <Vauxhall.Victor@BTInternet.Com> wrote in message
> news:da6jjr$f22$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>
> Aren't there some beginning with "0", so that they have
> to be dialed as FQNNs ?
Yes there are, but they're usually internal numbers that the public will
never need to dial.
Ivor
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| Vernon Quaintance 2005-07-04, 2:45 am |
| Owain <owain47125@stirlingcity.coo.uk> wrote:
> David Floyd wrote:
>
> And not all were/are charged as 'local' within the code area.
>
> Owain
Whilst numbers in 01234 areas may be of variable length, things are much
simpler where the code is any of:
02x - all local numbers are 8 digit (eg London, Southampton, N.
Ireland)
011x - all local numbers are 7 digit (eg Bristol, Reading)
01x1 - all local numbers are 7 digit (eg Manchester, Glasgow,
Birmingham)
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| Here's the definitive list:
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/telecoms/io...m_plan_0605.pdf
It's got the lot.
Andrew Gabriel wrote:
> Does anyone have UK dial plan strings which covers all the phone number
> formats you might want to dial from a UK PSTN line? I'm programming
> a Sipura-3000 VoIP phone, and I'm looking for a suitable dial plan
> string. The phone uses something based on MEGACO and MGCP format
> apparently. Here's a first stab at all the possibilities, but it's
> sure to be incomplete and could do with further breakdown...
>
> 999 emergency
> 1xx. 112, 151, 141..., 1471..., etc.
> 0[123]xxxxxxxxx STD (not sure if '3' is used anywhere)
> 07xxxxxxxxx mobile, personal
> [2-9]xxxxx local (in 01234, etc areas)
> [2-9]xxxxxx local (in 0207, 0118, etc. areas)
> 0[45689]x. Various things like 0500... and others I don't know
> 00x. international
> [*#]x. network services
>
> Key: x = any single digit
> . = zero, one, or more repetitions of previous
> [] = any one key from the values or range enclosed
>
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| Andrew Gabriel wrote:
> Does anyone have UK dial plan strings which covers all the phone number
> formats you might want to dial from a UK PSTN line? I'm programming
> a Sipura-3000 VoIP phone, and I'm looking for a suitable dial plan
> string. The phone uses something based on MEGACO and MGCP format
> apparently. Here's a first stab at all the possibilities, but it's
> sure to be incomplete and could do with further breakdown...
>
> 999 emergency
> 1xx. 112, 151, 141..., 1471..., etc.
> 0[123]xxxxxxxxx STD (not sure if '3' is used anywhere)
> 07xxxxxxxxx mobile, personal
> [2-9]xxxxx local (in 01234, etc areas)
> [2-9]xxxxxx local (in 0207, 0118, etc. areas)
> 0[45689]x. Various things like 0500... and others I don't know
> 00x. international
> [*#]x. network services
>
> Key: x = any single digit
> . = zero, one, or more repetitions of previous
> [] = any one key from the values or range enclosed
Why not just use this:
xx.
and then only specifically include strings that you want handled in a
specific way. e.g.:
xx.|09xx.!
This allows all numbers to be dialled except those starting with 09xx.
Also useful is:
<:0161>[2-9]xxxxxx
This prefixes any 7-digit number (except those beginning with 1) with
0161, allowing you to dial local numbers (in this example Manchester;
replace with your own local code) using the local phone number only.
And:
999S0<:@gw0>
This routes 999 calls through the PSTN line. Adding S0 indicates that
the string should be matched immediately, rather than waiting for a
time-out.
And don't forget:
<9,>xx.<:@gw0>
This string allows you to get PSTN dial tone by dialling 9.
See also the Voxilla forum for more useful tips and tricks:
http://voxilla.com/forum-viewtopic-t-619.html
Chris
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| Nigel D 2005-07-16, 7:45 am |
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"Andrew Gabriel" <andrew@cucumber.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:42c530b7$0$38043$5a6aecb4@news.aaisp.net.uk...
> Does anyone have UK dial plan strings which covers all the phone number
> formats you might want to dial from a UK PSTN line? I'm programming
> a Sipura-3000 VoIP phone, and I'm looking for a suitable dial plan
> string. The phone uses something based on MEGACO and MGCP format
> apparently. Here's a first stab at all the possibilities, but it's
> sure to be incomplete and could do with further breakdown...
>
> 999 emergency
> 1xx. 112, 151, 141..., 1471..., etc.
> 0[123]xxxxxxxxx STD (not sure if '3' is used anywhere)
> 07xxxxxxxxx mobile, personal
> [2-9]xxxxx local (in 01234, etc areas)
> [2-9]xxxxxx local (in 0207, 0118, etc. areas)
> 0[45689]x. Various things like 0500... and others I don't know
> 00x. international
> [*#]x. network services
>
> Key: x = any single digit
> . = zero, one, or more repetitions of previous
> [] = any one key from the values or range enclosed
>
> --
> Andrew Gabriel
Not sure if it what you want, but try
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/telecoms/io.../?a=87101#geog1
Nigel D.
http://www.thedyers.org.uk/mail
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| Nicholas Thomas 2005-07-16, 5:45 pm |
| Peter Morgan - 0870 432 9632 wrote:
> On 2 Jul 2005 12:04:47 GMT, rf@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns) wrote:
>
>
>
>
> That 0545 was 0645, I think :-) Peter M.
Last I checked, wasn't BT using 05 numbers for VoIP?
xF,
....Nick
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| Alan J. Flavell 2005-07-16, 8:45 pm |
| On Sun, 17 Jul 2005, Nicholas Thomas wrote:
> Peter Morgan - 0870 432 9632 wrote:
>
> Last I checked, wasn't BT using 05 numbers for VoIP?
Wake up at the back there! Robin and Peter aren't talking about "the
last time that you checked", but about various points in history.
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| Nicholas Thomas 2005-07-16, 8:45 pm |
| Alan J. Flavell wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Jul 2005, Nicholas Thomas wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Wake up at the back there! Robin and Peter aren't talking about "the
> last time that you checked", but about various points in history.
>
Funny, that - I read it as Robin asking for information about the
current time (ie. if 0500 "still" exists). Obviously, if BT has
appropriated the entire 05x. range for VoIP, then the answer to his
question is "no".
xF,
....Nick
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| Nicholas Thomas 2005-07-16, 8:45 pm |
| Nicholas Thomas wrote:
> Alan J. Flavell wrote:
>
>
>
> Funny, that - I read it as Robin asking for information about the
> current time (ie. if 0500 "still" exists). Obviously, if BT has
> appropriated the entire 05x. range for VoIP, then the answer to his
> question is "no".
>
> xF,
>
> ...Nick
Ah. got it. 0500 xxx xxx is still around, (eg. the missing people's
helpline) but not being allocated any more, and slowly being phased out.
VoIP range is in the 055 range by the looks of it (s5.xls)
xF,
....Nick
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| Tim Clark 2005-07-17, 5:45 pm |
| In article <-eudnc4WRo1mO0TfRVnysQ@brightview.com>,
Nicholas Thomas <lupine@ic24.net> writes:
> Alan J. Flavell wrote:
>
> Funny, that - I read it as Robin asking for information about the
> current time (ie. if 0500 "still" exists). Obviously, if BT has
> appropriated the entire 05x. range for VoIP, then the answer to his
> question is "no".
BT lost the ability to appropriate parts of the number range many years
before the acronym VoIP even escaped from the laboratory. All telcos
have to apply to Ofcom, as they have had to do for some time (Oftel
before). Each allocation is for a batch where at least the first six
digits after the "0" are specified, never less.
For example BT have allocated to them numbers starting 0560043, while
numbers starting 0560042 and 0560044 are allocated to other operators.
The points in history Robin and Peter were talking about were before
such matters were even thought about. When BT ruled the numbering
ranges, and many of those inside that organisation believed that
releasing information about numbering to the public was reckless and
best avoided.
--
Tim Clark
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| Alan J. Flavell 2005-07-18, 7:45 am |
| On Sun, 17 Jul 2005, Nicholas Thomas wrote:
> Ah. got it. 0500 xxx xxx is still around, (eg. the missing people's
> helpline) but not being allocated any more, and slowly being phased
> out.
Right. It looks as if the overall structure of the official numbering
assignments can be downloaded from
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/telecoms/ioi/numbers/?a=87101
On page 12 it appears that the only 05 codes currently being allocated
are in 055 and 056.
Indeed it says that 0500 (no charge to caller) is not available
for allocation but can be "adopted where already allocated".
Tim Clark's presentation of more-detailed assignments can be found at
http://www.ukphoneinfo.com/search/P...nng_list-3.html
As Robin said before, there used, at some past time, to be an 0545 -
counterpart to 0845.
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| David Floyd 2005-07-18, 7:45 am |
| In message of Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Alan J. Flavell writes
>On Sun, 17 Jul 2005, Nicholas Thomas wrote:
>
>
>Right. It looks as if the overall structure of the official numbering
>assignments can be downloaded from
>http://www.ofcom.org.uk/telecoms/ioi/numbers/?a=87101
>
>On page 12 it appears that the only 05 codes currently being allocated
>are in 055 and 056.
>
>Indeed it says that 0500 (no charge to caller) is not available
>for allocation but can be "adopted where already allocated".
>
>Tim Clark's presentation of more-detailed assignments can be found at
>http://www.ukphoneinfo.com/search/P...nng_list-3.html
>
>As Robin said before, there used, at some past time, to be an 0545 -
>counterpart to 0845.
No! Before 0845 it was 0345 and 0645 (not 0545)
0345 nnnnnn became 0845 7nn nnnn
and
0645 nnnnnn became 0845 9nn nnnn
and for further information, before 0870 it was 0990 and 0541,
0990 nnnnnn became 0870 5nn nnnn
and
0541 nnnnnn became 0870 1nn nnnn
David
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| Denis McMahon 2005-07-21, 5:45 pm |
| > "Andrew Gabriel" <andrew@cucumber.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:42c530b7$0$38043$5a6aecb4@news.aaisp.net.uk...
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[2-9]xxxxxxx local in 02x areas (eg Portsmouth, Southampton, Cardiff(?) etc)
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