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News Reader

2006-11-26, 7:11 am


Hi,

Can anyone advise what might be the best cheap ATA. The following is a
preference list in (loose) order of preference (nothing more than the first
two preferences is necessary - the others would are bonuses):

- support multiple accounts (support multiple SIP provider accounts)
- good, secure, reliable, configurable (modern / user-friendly with
advanced functionality) user interface, system and platform
- support PSTN connection ( / dial-through to the plugged in PSTN)
- support more than 1 phone connection (e.g. two separate VoIP lines)
- support more than 1 PSTN connection

- with or without ADSL modem and / or router or ADSL router

Think that is most of the main things...

I would be just as (possibly more interested) in units that are combined
ADSL modem routers and ATAs / with [SIP] VoIP ports. If they are not "as
good" / up to the job (unreasonable compromise on features, economically
disadvantageous, etc.) then a standalone ATA would be better.


Best wishes,



News Reader



Jono

2006-11-26, 1:11 pm

News Reader presented the following explanation :
> Hi,
>
> Can anyone advise what might be the best cheap ATA. The following is a
> preference list in (loose) order of preference (nothing more than the first
> two preferences is necessary - the others would are bonuses):
>
> - support multiple accounts (support multiple SIP provider accounts)
> - good, secure, reliable, configurable (modern / user-friendly with
> advanced functionality) user interface, system and platform
> - support PSTN connection ( / dial-through to the plugged in PSTN)
> - support more than 1 phone connection (e.g. two separate VoIP lines)
> - support more than 1 PSTN connection
>
> - with or without ADSL modem and / or router or ADSL router
>
> Think that is most of the main things...
>
> I would be just as (possibly more interested) in units that are combined
> ADSL modem routers and ATAs / with [SIP] VoIP ports. If they are not "as
> good" / up to the job (unreasonable compromise on features, economically
> disadvantageous, etc.) then a standalone ATA would be better.
>



I know you're from the other side of the pond........could you /try/ to
use words instead of all the extra punctuation? It's like reading
algebra!

First two points would be covered by an SPA1001, if you consider 2
accounts to be multiple.

SPA3101 or Fritz!Box for the third.

Fritz!Box for fourth with third catered for too.


News Reader

2006-11-26, 7:11 pm



"Jono" <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote in message
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> News Reader presented the following explanation :
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>
>
> I know you're from the other side of the pond........could you /try/ to
> use words instead of all the extra punctuation? It's like reading
> algebra!
>
> First two points would be covered by an SPA1001, if you consider 2
> accounts to be multiple.
>
> SPA3101 or Fritz!Box for the third.
>
> Fritz!Box for fourth with third catered for too.
>
>


Ok Jono.

Many thanks. I will review the candidates. Could you remind me of the main
retailer sites for this hardware (probably here in the UK)?

I do apologise for the excess punctuation... I think it is probably, in part
at least, laziness come shorthand and possibly a combination of that with
indecision!


Thanks once again and best wishes,




News Reader



Jono

2006-11-26, 7:11 pm

News Reader explained on 26/11/2006 :

>
> Ok Jono.
>
> Many thanks. I will review the candidates. Could you remind me of the main
> retailer sites for this hardware (probably here in the UK)?


Sipgate sell the Fritz!Box range.

Broadbandstuff.co.uk
<
> I do apologise for the excess punctuation... I think it is probably, in part
> at least, laziness come shorthand and possibly a combination of that with
> indecision!

And I thought it was an Americanism....as in w/ & w/o for with &
without. ;-)

> Thanks once again and best wishes,


For technical papers of Sipura ATAs, have a look at
<[url]http://www.provu.co.uk/support.html" target="_blank">http://www.broadbandstuff.co.uk/pro...uk/support.html
>. Provu have a good product range
too, however, not the cheapest around.


Brian A

2006-11-26, 7:11 pm

On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 19:26:51 -0000, "News Reader" <no@email.invalid>
wrote:

>
>
>"Jono" <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote in message
>news:mn.d3347d6b8d9eb659.48968@blueyonder.invalid...
>first
>
>Ok Jono.
>
>Many thanks. I will review the candidates. Could you remind me of the main
>retailer sites for this hardware (probably here in the UK)?

www.broadbandstuff.co.uk
www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk

Their prices are good generally, in fact not far off US prices now for
some Linksys/Sipura products.

You can also Froogle for other vendors but I doubt if you'll beat them
in the UK.
Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.
Martin²

2006-11-27, 1:11 am

Combined ADSL/router/VoIP boxes are the best option,
they include QoS, port forwarding and good voice quality.
Of course you are buying lot more then just ATA, so the cost is higher.
Apart from the already mentioned FritzBox! have look at Draytek 2700V ,
2800V
and Zyxel2602HW/L.
Regards,
Martin


News Reader

2006-11-27, 1:11 pm


"Brian A" <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 19:26:51 -0000, "News Reader" <no@email.invalid>
> wrote:
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> www.broadbandstuff.co.uk
> www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk
>
> Their prices are good generally, in fact not far off US prices now for
> some Linksys/Sipura products.
>
> You can also Froogle for other vendors but I doubt if you'll beat them
> in the UK.
> Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.



Great. Thanks very much.


Best wishes,



News Reader



News Reader

2006-11-27, 1:11 pm



"Martin²" <never@give.one> wrote in message
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> Combined ADSL/router/VoIP boxes are the best option,
> they include QoS, port forwarding and good voice quality.
> Of course you are buying lot more then just ATA, so the cost is higher.
> Apart from the already mentioned FritzBox! have look at Draytek 2700V ,
> 2800V
> and Zyxel2602HW/L.
> Regards,
> Martin
>
>



Hi,


Thanks - I will do.


Best wishes,



News Reader


P.s. Quite or somewhat amazingly, VoipBuster of all people and places seem
to presently have a quite amazing section on hardware.... well worth a look
I would suggest.. http://www.voipbuster.com/en/hardware.html Bye for now.


Jono

2006-11-27, 1:11 pm


"Tim" <nutnews@kooky.org> wrote in message
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> Jono wrote:
>
> Because ProVu are supplying lots of other people, and so have to keep
> their retail prices quite high.
>
> Tim


Hmm. Tim from Provu?


Jono

2006-11-27, 7:11 pm

Tim explained :
> Jono wrote:
>
> yes.
>
> Tim from ProVu.
>
> (I admit it)


Hello Tim.

How about a uk.telecom.voip discount, then?


Mike Sun

2006-11-27, 7:11 pm

As "cheap" was mentioned, consider the chinese ATAs which are starting to
appear e.g. www.tigernetcom.com

These sell on ebay e.g. http://stores.ebay.co.uk/DIGIDAVE-BROADBAND-STORE

I bought 2 of these at around £10 each (auction style) and they perform well
even if they do not meet all the requested requirements.

The Gateway 102 seem very similar to the Grandstream HandyTone-448 when
comaring the user manuals of the units.

Cheers from Mike


Bargepole

2006-11-28, 7:11 am

On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 23:49:41 GMT, Mike Sun wrote:

>These sell on ebay ...


I wouldn't touch them ...
Mike Sun

2006-11-28, 7:11 am

"Bargepole" <"=?x-user-defined?Q? ̃ @ ̃ ?="> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 23:49:41 GMT, Mike Sun wrote:
>
>
> I wouldn't touch them ...

erm - please elaborate?


Jono

2006-11-28, 7:11 am


"Paul" <nomailforme@polog40.org.uk> wrote in message
news:456c0474$0$625$5a6aecb4@news.aaisp.net.uk...
> Jono wrote:
> Well, if you use the online order form:
>
> https://secure.provu.co.uk/order/index.pl
>
> Then you get free UK delivery and free RJ-11 adaptors as necessary, ones
> with ring capacitors.


I'd normally collect, anyway........anything else enticing? ;-)


News Reader

2006-11-28, 1:11 pm


"Mike Sun" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:1lUah.8164$k74.4380@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> "Bargepole" <"=?x-user-defined?Q? ̃ @ ̃ ?="> wrote in message
> news:pgrnm21qcln6r7em57fdkss171bq463iri@
4ax.com...
> erm - please elaborate?
>
>


Hi,

I happened across these scanning eBay recently as well.

Summarily, they seem remarkably good - on their own merits - as well as
being satisfyingly cheap.

Thanks for the input.

I think one of the eBay retailers links to
http://support.digidave.co.uk/index...ds&_m=get&_i=64 which is a
usermanual and the underlying site provides some insight (as well as retail
comparison prices - and quite clearly one can get quite a discount by buying
from them through eBay as opposed to directly).

Best wishes,



News Reader


.... I may well indeed go for one of these... or perhaps a "subsidised" MG3
.... which it appears may not actually be "so" locked down...



Bob_Cat

2006-11-29, 7:11 pm

I recently bought a Tigernet "Gateway 102" from Digidave and I have to
say I am really impressed. As a no-frills ATA with lifeline it is
excellent. It doesn't have FXO (? out-bound) but it does have lifeline
and you can select to bypass VoIP through dialing. It cost me about
=A330 and I love it, it can't select to use multiple SIP accounts, but
it is unlocked. Its cheap and it works!

Bob

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