| Brian A 2006-12-08, 7:11 am |
| On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 02:51:31 -0000, "News Reader" <no@email.invalid>
wrote:
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>"andy" <andy.ggrps@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>news:1165544542.241139.32640@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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>News Reader wrote:
>will
>telco -
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>or
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>I don't know how much vastly increased chatting you are intending, but
>I'd have thought one or two Finarea/Betamax deals or the Voip.co.uk
>
>Temporarily, there is Babble's FreeB (trial?) offer, which is of 30
>minutes a day for a one-off starter fee of £1.50, paid by p-sms. Don't
>know how long it will last but they said -
>"There are no plans at present to close the FreeB promotion, and all
>users that sign up for FreeB will be given at least three months notice
>when we do decide to stop the promotion. "
>
>Several Australian ones with per call fees (up to an hour), like
>Astratel and others I'd have to look up ...
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>Of course, you should persuade the people you call most to adopt VoIP
>as well, and use peering for free calls. The thing is, friends will
>think you're talking about Skype ...
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>Oh how I love when OE decides to not bother indenting ;)... anyhoo...
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>I agree with your general points. Certainly, a great and nice idea to move
>all onto VoIP with peering - I am sure with e164, etc. soon enough we will
>all be able to dial without needing to know provider, etc. (The main issue
>here is calling business / organisations - a little hard to persuade them
>all [especially the ones I don't yet know I will want or need to contact or
>that I will ever want or need to contact again] to move to or include VoIP
>access routes !  ).
>
>However, the particular issue here is essentially:
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> - calling companies / organisations - call pattern generated - combinations
>of multiple short calls and multiple long calls - i.e. either short due to a
>problem, menu mistake, etc. or long due to a queue or slightly longer or
>more complicated query
>
>Thus - without having to be concerned by per call cost or call length
>issues - a great deal more can potentially be done without needing to
>consider marginal cost, etc. It is like an enabling factor / an enabler - if
>you can make that / those extra call without having to think to much about
>it so much the better, etc.
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>Best wishes,
>
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>
>News Reader
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>P.s. I may look at some of those flag fall type operators (as you suggest
>many of whom seem to operate out of Australia).
I use Astratel. Very good call quality.
I also now use Vyke, early days yet but it seems to be OK.
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