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Codecs for voip.co.uk
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| Sam Jones 2006-03-08, 2:45 am |
| I'm using a Handytone 486 directly connected to my NTL cable modem but
the sound quality at my end is very poor. I've not had any complaints
at the other end of the calls so it appears to be a one way problem.
My preferred codecs currently are: G729, G723, PCMU, PCMA, G726-32.
Can anyone suggest something that might improve the sound quality
please?
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| Brian A 2006-03-08, 7:45 am |
| On Wed, 08 Mar 2006 09:26:48 GMT, Thomas Kenyon
<uktvoip@sanguinarius.co.uk> wrote:
>Sam Jones wrote:
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>I'm assuming that PCMU and PCMA are really G.711u and G.711a.
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>I would personally put 723 lower down in the codec order, sounds sliiy,
>but have you checked the handset in a normal phone line?
I have been advised, by voip.co.uk, to use G711 exclusively for cable.
Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.
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| Thomas Kenyon 2006-03-08, 5:45 pm |
| Brian A wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Mar 2006 09:26:48 GMT, Thomas Kenyon
> <uktvoip@sanguinarius.co.uk> wrote:
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> I have been advised, by voip.co.uk, to use G711 exclusively for cable.
Weird, I've been using G.729a exclusively with them (on cable and
incoming only) without any problems.
Miond you, this isn't with a handytone, and G.723/6/9 use a lot more
runtime than G.711.
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| Brian A 2006-03-08, 5:45 pm |
| On Wed, 08 Mar 2006 13:49:37 GMT, Thomas Kenyon
<uktvoip@sanguinarius.co.uk> wrote:
>Brian A wrote:
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>Weird, I've been using G.729a exclusively with them (on cable and
>incoming only) without any problems.
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>Miond you, this isn't with a handytone, and G.723/6/9 use a lot more
>runtime than G.711.
My most humble apologies ..I meant g729.....YOU ARE CORRECT!!
Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.
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| Thomas Kenyon 2006-03-08, 5:45 pm |
| Brian A wrote:
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> My most humble apologies ..I meant g729.....YOU ARE CORRECT!!
FWIW, none of my voip.co.uk numbers have been working all day.
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| Brian A 2006-03-08, 5:45 pm |
| On Wed, 08 Mar 2006 17:54:56 GMT, Thomas Kenyon
<uktvoip@sanguinarius.co.uk> wrote:
>Brian A wrote:
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>FWIW, none of my voip.co.uk numbers have been working all day.
I have problems with calls dropping out, line dropping out and sound
quality issues. I have raised it but not got much of a response so
far.
Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.
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| Thomas Kenyon 2006-03-08, 5:45 pm |
| Brian A wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Mar 2006 17:54:56 GMT, Thomas Kenyon
> <uktvoip@sanguinarius.co.uk> wrote:
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> I have problems with calls dropping out, line dropping out and sound
> quality issues. I have raised it but not got much of a response so
> far.
>
I'm not routing outgoing calls through them atm. but I can tell you that
all my numbers get a connection failed etc. from my mobile, or bt line.
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| David Floyd 2006-03-08, 5:45 pm |
| In message of Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Thomas Kenyon writes
>Brian A wrote:
>I'm not routing outgoing calls through them atm. but I can tell you
>that all my numbers get a connection failed etc. from my mobile, or bt
>line.
Do you think it might be your equipment that's the problem?!
I have no problems with my 2 voip.co.uk numbers using a SPA3000
David
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| M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk 2006-03-08, 5:45 pm |
| On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 22:51:45 +0000, David Floyd <david@floyd.org.uk>
wrote:
>In message of Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Thomas Kenyon writes
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>Do you think it might be your equipment that's the problem?!
>
>I have no problems with my 2 voip.co.uk numbers using a SPA3000
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>David
I can't use two numbers if I in put the second number BOTH lines go to
voicemail when called one on its own fine .
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| Sam Jones 2006-03-08, 5:45 pm |
| On Wed, 08 Mar 2006 23:02:55 GMT, M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
>On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 22:51:45 +0000, David Floyd <david@floyd.org.uk>
>wrote:
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>I can't use two numbers if I in put the second number BOTH lines go to
>voicemail when called one on its own fine .
Is the Handytone 486 an adequate device or should I consider
upgrading. If so what to? At the moment I have the 486 directly
connected to my cable modem and a wireless router connected to the
486.
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| Thomas Kenyon 2006-03-08, 5:45 pm |
| David Floyd wrote:
> In message of Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Thomas Kenyon writes
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> Do you think it might be your equipment that's the problem?!
>
It's been working fine (with asterisk) for weeks. Well, fine-ish.
> I have no problems with my 2 voip.co.uk numbers using a SPA3000
>
Congratulations, I wasn't trying to suggest it was a system-wide problem.
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| Ivor Jones 2006-03-08, 8:45 pm |
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"Sam Jones" <sam@dodgeit.com> wrote in message
news:utpu0212l8j04aro6krbov6f18qfviesos@
4ax.com
[snip]
> Is the Handytone 486 an adequate device or should I
> consider upgrading. If so what to? At the moment I have
> the 486 directly connected to my cable modem and a
> wireless router connected to the 486.
It's adequate if all you are ever going to want is a single account.
Personally I prefer the Sipura range of devices, they are far more
configurable. Although for sheer ease of setting up (plus they will
accommodate up to 10 SIP accounts) the Fritz!Box range from AVM are worth
looking into.
Ivor
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| David Floyd 2006-03-09, 2:45 am |
| In message of Wed, 8 Mar 2006, writes
>On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 22:51:45 +0000, David Floyd <david@floyd.org.uk>
>wrote:
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>I can't use two numbers if I in put the second number BOTH lines go to
>voicemail when called one on its own fine .
Now, I wonder why that doesn't surprise me ;-)
David (with 2 voip.co.uk lines set up correctly!)
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| Thomas Kenyon 2006-03-09, 2:45 am |
| David Floyd wrote:
> In message of Wed, 8 Mar 2006, writes
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> Now, I wonder why that doesn't surprise me ;-)
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> David (with 2 voip.co.uk lines set up correctly!)
Try running 3 on the same device, I'm buggered if I can.
(2 fine, in fact any 2 fine until yesterday).
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| Brian A 2006-03-09, 7:45 am |
| On Wed, 08 Mar 2006 21:02:36 GMT, Thomas Kenyon
<uktvoip@sanguinarius.co.uk> wrote:
>Brian A wrote:
>I'm not routing outgoing calls through them atm. but I can tell you that
>all my numbers get a connection failed etc. from my mobile, or bt line.
Have you any chance set up a 'forward all calls" by any chance? If you
do this then the symptom you describe is typical.
Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.
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| M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk 2006-03-09, 7:45 am |
| On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 08:24:34 +0000, David Floyd <david@floyd.org.uk>
wrote:
>Now, I wonder why that doesn't surprise me ;-)
>
>David (with 2 voip.co.uk lines set up correctly!)
David Chris at uk voip tells me itis a problem with the Linksys ATA's
and UK voip systems . I was running two Sipura 2000's untill yesterday
and I found I was getting the same problem with the new PAP2's the
problem is down to uk voip systems I do not get the same problem with
any other providers .
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| hairydog@despammed.com 2006-03-09, 5:45 pm |
| On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 12:51:05 GMT, M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
>David Chris at uk voip tells me itis a problem with the Linksys ATA's
>and UK voip systems .
Rubbish.
>I was running two Sipura 2000's untill yesterday
>and I found I was getting the same problem with the new PAP2's the
>problem is down to uk voip systems I do not get the same problem with
>any other providers .
I have two voip.co.uk lines working perfectly on a PAP2.
The problem is that you haven't set it up properly. As ever.
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| hairydog@despammed.com 2006-03-09, 5:45 pm |
| On Wed, 08 Mar 2006 23:23:09 GMT, Sam Jones <sam@dodgeit.com> wrote:
>Is the Handytone 486 an adequate device or should I consider
>upgrading.
Yes, no.
I use a PAP2 and a Handytone 486, and I plan to add one or two more
Handytone 386 units. The PAP2 is unquestionably prettier and has cool
blue flashing lights, but if anything, the Handytone works a bit
better.
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| hairydog@despammed.com 2006-03-09, 5:45 pm |
| On Wed, 08 Mar 2006 23:02:55 GMT, M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
>I can't use two numbers if I in put the second number BOTH lines go to
>voicemail when called one on its own fine .
Yes, but you can't set it up properly, as you have proved by failing
to get things to work with supplier after supplier. But of course it
is always their fault, not yours.
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| M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk 2006-03-09, 5:45 pm |
| On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 18:39:29 +0000, hairydog@despammed.com wrote:
>On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 12:51:05 GMT, M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
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>Rubbish.
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>I have two voip.co.uk lines working perfectly on a PAP2.
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>The problem is that you haven't set it up properly. As ever.
Bollocks I have just had voip go through my settings with me and they
say they are perfectly CORRECT they also say they have set up my
numbers on two sipura 2000's at their end have got the SAME PROBLEM
with them that I have .
So do tell how the problem can possibly be down to my set up here when
the same problem has been replicated on hardware that is situated some
200 miles away from here or are you saying voip uk don't know how to
set up hardware also Mr cleaver dicky ???????? .
One number running in one Sipura or PAP2 no problem one number on one
and one on another no go one on a sipura and one on a softphone both
work ok voip have had both numbers working simultaneously themselves
with one number in a softphone .
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| M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk 2006-03-09, 5:45 pm |
| On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 18:37:42 +0000, hairydog@despammed.com wrote:
>On Wed, 08 Mar 2006 23:02:55 GMT, M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
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>Yes, but you can't set it up properly, as you have proved by failing
>to get things to work with supplier after supplier.
Really voipfpone works ok voipcheap works ok internert calls work ok
NEED I GO ON !!!!!!!!!!!!.
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| Paul Cupis 2006-03-09, 5:45 pm |
| M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 18:37:42 +0000, hairydog@despammed.com wrote:
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> Really voipfpone works ok voipcheap works ok internert calls work ok
> NEED I GO ON !!!!!!!!!!!!.
No, please don't.
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| Alan J. Flavell 2006-03-09, 5:45 pm |
| On Thu, 9 Mar 2006, hairydog@despammed.com wrote:
> The PAP2 is unquestionably prettier and has cool
> blue flashing lights,
*What* a relief it will be when the current obsession with blue
flashing lights finally passes away. "Tardis" possibly excepted :-}
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| Brian A 2006-03-09, 8:45 pm |
| On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 13:45:58 GMT, Thomas Kenyon
<uktvoip@sanguinarius.co.uk> wrote:
>Brian A wrote:
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>I can't see a forward all calls setting on their website, there is a
>divert if unavailable (which isn't set).
I was referring to the settings on the ATA not the web site. On the
SPA-3000, user1 tab, if you set anything in the 'Cfwd All Dest:' then
the line becomes unavailable - at least it did at one time.
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There is, effectively, a 'forward all calls' on their web site too.
Click on 'Your Phone Numbers' in the menu bar...then click on the
number...(which is where you got to before) but then disable the
voicemail and set a forwarding number. Then all calls will forward
accordingly.
Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.
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| Thomas Kenyon 2006-03-10, 7:45 am |
| Brian A wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 13:45:58 GMT, Thomas Kenyon
> <uktvoip@sanguinarius.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> I was referring to the settings on the ATA not the web site. On the
> SPA-3000, user1 tab, if you set anything in the 'Cfwd All Dest:' then
> the line becomes unavailable - at least it did at one time.
>
This is with asterisk, which never gets contacted when I try making the
calls, even though registration is succesful.
> There is, effectively, a 'forward all calls' on their web site too.
> Click on 'Your Phone Numbers' in the menu bar...then click on the
> number...(which is where you got to before) but then disable the
> voicemail and set a forwarding number. Then all calls will forward
> accordingly.
>
The weird thing is, if I turn on voicemail then it goes through (to a
very crackly) voicemail, if I don't I get number not in use.
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| Thomas Kenyon explained on 10/03/2006 :
> This is with asterisk, which never gets contacted when I try making the
> calls, even though registration is succesful.
What shows up during an outbound call, if you set Asterisk to "sip
debug ip 80.249.108.21" from the CLI?
What shows up in the sip headers? Anything unusual?
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| hairydog@despammed.com 2006-03-10, 5:45 pm |
| On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 19:49:17 +0000, "Alan J. Flavell"
<flavell@physics.gla.ac.uk> wrote:
>*What* a relief it will be when the current obsession with blue
>flashing lights finally passes away.
Definitely. I have a bluetooth GPS "mouse" receiver that sits on the
car dashboard.
Fine in the daytime, but at night the little blue flashing light
always makes you thing there's a police car ahead. Most unnerving.
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| Thomas Kenyon 2006-03-10, 5:45 pm |
| Jono wrote:
> Thomas Kenyon explained on 10/03/2006 :
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> What shows up during an outbound call, if you set Asterisk to "sip debug
> ip 80.249.108.21" from the CLI?
>
> What shows up in the sip headers? Anything unusual?
>
No idea, I don't use voip.co.uk for outbound calls atm, but having just
tried it, outgoing calls are fantastic quality, will look at trace files
and have a play.
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| M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk 2006-03-10, 5:45 pm |
| On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 19:57:19 +0000, hairydog@despammed.com wrote:
>Fine in the daytime, but at night the little blue flashing light
>always makes you thing there's a police car ahead. Most unnerving.
You got something to hide ! there can be a dozen police cars behind me
with their lights flashing for all I care , 40 years plus of accident
and fine free driving of all types of vehicles puts one in this frame
of mind .
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| Thomas Kenyon wrote :
> Jono wrote:
> No idea, I don't use voip.co.uk for outbound calls atm, but having just tried
> it, outgoing calls are fantastic quality, will look at trace files and have a
> play.
I had a similar issue to you - my server is (was) sending my IP address
as 127.0.0.1 which was causing all sorts of issues.
Ring a freephone number using your voip.co.uk trunk & see what the sip
headers reveal.
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| Thomas Kenyon 2006-03-10, 5:45 pm |
| Jono wrote:
> Thomas Kenyon wrote :
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> I had a similar issue to you - my server is (was) sending my IP address
> as 127.0.0.1 which was causing all sorts of issues.
>
> Ring a freephone number using your voip.co.uk trunk & see what the sip
> headers reveal.
>
This was just a weird authentication problem, fixed now.
I'd still love to know why I can't register more than 2 sip accounts at
once. (all accounts time out if I try).
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| Thomas Kenyon 2006-03-10, 5:45 pm |
| Thomas Kenyon wrote:
> This was just a weird authentication problem, fixed now.
> I'd still love to know why I can't register more than 2 sip accounts at
> once. (all accounts time out if I try).
This was caused by the regitration reply from taking in inordinately
long time, if you increase the registertimeout to roughly 10 x number of
channels (which sort of explains it since the default is 20), this
appears to fix the problem.
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| hairydog@despammed.com 2006-03-11, 7:45 am |
| On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 20:18:50 GMT, M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
>You got something to hide ! there can be a dozen police cars behind me
>with their lights flashing for all I care , 40 years plus of accident
>and fine free driving of all types of vehicles puts one in this frame
>of mind
My goodness, you must be thick.
Why on earth would I think that a flashing blue light in the
windscreen would signify a police car behind me?
Just in case you've not noticed, the windscreen is generally at the
front of the vehicle. Things you see through the windscreen tend to be
in front of you, not behind you.
If you have been driving for 40 years, perhaps by now you should have
discovered that flashing blue lights ahead tend to imply that there is
likely to be some sort of problem ahead. A skilled, defensive driver
would immediately be on the alert in such a situation.
However, if there were several police cars behind me with their blue
lights flashing, I would care, as would any sensible driver. Either
they are trying to attract my attention, or (much more likely) they
want to get past to deal with some urgent matter. Either way, ignoring
their presence is not appropriate.
By the way, I don't believe you. You have not been driving for 40
years without an accident. I know people who have held a licence for
that long without an accident, but they didn't drive. I don't even
think you could have parked a car at the side of the road for 40 years
without it being involved in an accident of some sort.
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