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Mobiles with SIP / VoIP?
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| Any mobiles available now or very soon which will support the SIP protocol?
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| R.Daneel Olivaw 2006-05-15, 7:11 pm |
| "!" <..> wrote in message news:1147726876_5@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
> Any mobiles available now or very soon which will support the SIP
> protocol?
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> Thanks
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Well my N80 has a SIP setting menu item under communications if that's any
help - not sure what it does - is it for VOIP? I have emailed Skype and they
tell my a version for the N80 is under development but would not commit to a
timescale.
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"R.Daneel Olivaw" <no.spam@please.or.else> wrote in message
news:4468efc4$0$10766$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net...
> "!" <..> wrote in message news:1147726876_5@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
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> Well my N80 has a SIP setting menu item under communications if that's any
> help - not sure what it does - is it for VOIP? I have emailed Skype and
> they tell my a version for the N80 is under development but would not
> commit to a timescale.
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Yep. VoIP.
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| Martin² 2006-05-16, 1:11 am |
| R.Daneel Olivaw:
>Well my N80 has a SIP setting menu item under communications if that's any
>help - not sure what it does - is it for VOIP? I have emailed Skype and
>they tell my a version for the N80 is under development but would not
>commit to a timescale.
Skype is just a P2P software application (which obviously need internet
access), incompatible with anything else.
True VoIP / SIP is totally different, allows you to use any VoIP provider,
or even direct connection to any other SIP user if you know the their IP.
Regards,
Martin
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| Brian A 2006-05-16, 7:11 pm |
| On Tue, 16 May 2006 01:32:16 +0100, "Martin²" <never@give.one> wrote:
>R.Daneel Olivaw:
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>Skype is just a P2P software application (which obviously need internet
>access), incompatible with anything else.
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>True VoIP / SIP is totally different, allows you to use any VoIP provider,
>or even direct connection to any other SIP user if you know the their IP.
>Regards,
>Martin
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Yes, I can't see Skype being a goer for mobile use via the Net over a
mobile metwork. You only need to look at the cost/MB of data to see
that it would not be cost effective. However, over WiFi that might be
a different situation. However, I agree, Skype is toytown. It works
very well for what it is but who is interested in waiting for the
computer to boot up every time you want ot make a call. Further, you
are tied to one provider and you can't contact SIP phones except via
PSTN.
Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.
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| Paul Cupis 2006-05-16, 7:11 pm |
| Martin² wrote:
> R.Daneel Olivaw:
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> Skype is just a P2P software application (which obviously need internet
> access), incompatible with anything else.
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> True VoIP / SIP is totally different, allows you to use any VoIP provider,
> or even direct connection to any other SIP user if you know the their IP.
Skype is VoIP. If you definition of "True VoIP" is SIP, then where do
H.323 and IAX fit in (as examples).
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| Thomas Kenyon 2006-05-16, 7:11 pm |
| Paul Cupis wrote:
> Martin² wrote:
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> Skype is VoIP. If you definition of "True VoIP" is SIP, then where do
> H.323 and IAX fit in (as examples).
H.323 is much older so I guess that'll be old VOIP and IAX is much
simpler (only one port to worry about etc.) so I guess that'll be new
VOIP :-p
I thought that any process that runs voice data over an IP network woult
qualify (like all the ones that software like Speak Freely and CuSeeMe
etc used which I know includes H.323.)
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| Adrian 2006-05-16, 7:11 pm |
| Paul Cupis (paul@cupis.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :
> Skype is VoIP. If you definition of "True VoIP" is SIP, then where do
> H.323 and IAX fit in (as examples).
Personally, I'd say that - yes, Skype is VoIP - but it's a firmly
proprietary implementation of VoIP - a walled garden. "True" VoIP is based
around open and interoperable protocols.
A good analogy is the early days of the internet, when it was busy killing
off BBSes.
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| Paul Cupis 2006-05-16, 7:11 pm |
| Adrian wrote:
> Paul Cupis (paul@cupis.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
> were saying :
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> Personally, I'd say that - yes, Skype is VoIP - but it's a firmly
> proprietary implementation of VoIP - a walled garden.
Yes, I agree.
> "True" VoIP is [snip]
a made up phrase with no useful definition and which we should stop using.
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| > Any mobiles available now or very soon which will support the SIP
> protocol?
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> Thanks
Nokia E60 available now.
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| Thomas Kenyon 2006-05-16, 7:11 pm |
| TKD wrote:
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> nokia E60 available now.
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Where?? nokia say it hasn't been released yet.
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| Adrian wrote:
> Paul Cupis (paul@cupis.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
> were saying :
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> Personally, I'd say that - yes, Skype is VoIP - but it's a firmly
> proprietary implementation of VoIP - a walled garden. "True" VoIP is based
> around open and interoperable protocols.
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> A good analogy is the early days of the internet, when it was busy killing
> off BBSes.
A better analogy would be with business telephones, which in
their direct-wired and IP forms tend to use proprietary
signalling to the supplier's PABX (sorry, comms server).
SIP could be compared to an analogue line or POTS.
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| Martin² 2006-05-18, 1:11 am |
| >Nokia E60 available now.
Doesn't mention VoIP, is a SIP softphone available for Symbian OS ?
Pretty steep price, too much for me...
Regards,
Martin
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| Thomas Kenyon 2006-05-18, 1:11 pm |
| Martin² wrote:
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> Doesn't mention VoIP, is a SIP softphone available for Symbian OS ?
> Pretty steep price, too much for me...
> Regards,
> Martin
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Look on the nokia website, it tells you bugger all but it woes say that
you can make calls using a WLAN and SIP.
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| My Name 2006-05-25, 7:11 am |
| On Tue, 16 May 2006 14:46:43 GMT, Brian A
<no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote:
>but who is interested in waiting for the
>computer to boot up every time you want ot make a call
Many people these days leave their computer switched on while they are
at home. I just checked the consumption of my laptop, it's 24 W. Not
much more than my Sky box which takes 18 watts whether it's in standby
or running.
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| Ivor Jones 2006-05-25, 7:11 am |
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"My Name" <spam@gohome.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 16 May 2006 14:46:43 GMT, Brian A
> <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Many people these days leave their computer switched on
> while they are at home. I just checked the consumption of
> my laptop, it's 24 W. Not much more than my Sky box which
> takes 18 watts whether it's in standby or running.
I leave at least one of mine on 24hrs, but that doesn't mean I want to
rely on it for an incoming phone call. I want to be able to make and
receive calls on any line from any phone in the house, which I can do with
a small PBX and a couple of ATA's.
Ivor
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