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Local Number from VOIP SP
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| John F Kappler 2006-06-18, 7:11 pm |
| This may not be the right place for this question but I'll try
anyway....
My VOIP SP offers me a local code number for incoming calls. Will I
get a BT directory entry with that number?
TIA,
JohnK
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| M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk 2006-06-18, 7:11 pm |
| On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:26:03 GMT, johnk@pceffect.co.uk (John F
Kappler) wrote:
>My VOIP SP offers me a local code number for incoming calls. Will I
>get a BT directory entry with that number?
To my knowledge the only way to get a BT entry is to be a BT customer
or maybe a Telewest customer .
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| Ivor Jones 2006-06-18, 7:11 pm |
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"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk>
wrote in message
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> Thus spaketh John F Kappler:
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> Only if you request it.
Not always the case, it depends on the VoIP provider. Sipgate for one do
not list numbers in any directory, they say it is for regulatory reasons,
but not sure what they mean by that..!
Ivor
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| Ivor Jones 2006-06-18, 7:11 pm |
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<M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:26:03 GMT, johnk@pceffect.co.uk
> (John F Kappler) wrote:
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> To my knowledge the only way to get a BT entry is to be a
> BT customer or maybe a Telewest customer .
I believe you can request a mobile number to be listed.
Ivor
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| M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk formulated the question :
> On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:26:03 GMT, johnk@pceffect.co.uk (John F
> Kappler) wrote:
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> To my knowledge the only way to get a BT entry is to be a BT customer
> or maybe a Telewest customer .
I have my mobile number listed in the directory.
I used to pay about £5 a quarter for this "special entry"
I cancelled it 10 years ago...........it's still in.
You can have any number listed in the directory, it would seem.
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| Ivor Jones pretended :
> <M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:pq8b92haqns5gp5blv71b4jkmq08kkmu1h@
4ax.com
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> I believe you can request a mobile number to be listed.
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> Ivor
Fastest finger first!
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| Jono wrote:
> M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk formulated the question :
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> I have my mobile number listed in the directory.
>
> I used to pay about £5 a quarter for this "special entry"
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> I cancelled it 10 years ago...........it's still in.
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> You can have any number listed in the directory, it would seem.
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>
I have noticed mobile numbers in the telephone directory.. Seems to be
one on almost every page!
I asked about it ages ago, and was told it was not possible.
Interesting stuff :D
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| Sean brought next idea :
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> I have noticed mobile numbers in the telephone directory.. Seems to be one on
> almost every page!
>
You have far too much time on your hands ;-)
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| Telephoneman 2006-06-18, 7:11 pm |
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"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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> "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk>
> wrote in message
> news:8nhlg.88142$wl.38844@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk
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> Not always the case, it depends on the VoIP provider. Sipgate for one do
> not list numbers in any directory, they say it is for regulatory reasons,
> but not sure what they mean by that..!
>
> Ivor
>
AFAIK if you are a UK Company issuing numbers to UK customers it is a
regulatory requirement that you must offer the facility of entry into the UK
phone directory for those that request it.
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| Ivor Jones 2006-06-18, 7:11 pm |
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"Telephoneman" <alexandergrahambellREMOVE@bigfoot.com>
wrote in message
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> "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
> news:4flmpdF1iougcU1@individual.net...
[snip]
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> AFAIK if you are a UK Company issuing numbers to UK
> customers it is a regulatory requirement that you must
> offer the facility of entry into the UK phone directory
> for those that request it.
Sipgate are not a UK company. In any case, the directory is if I am
correct, compiled and maintained by BT, are you sure they are obliged to
insert the numbers of customers who are their direct competitors..?
Could you quote the source of your information, please..? This is not a
criticism, I am genuinely interested.
Ivor
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| Ivor Jones 2006-06-18, 7:11 pm |
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"Jono" <nothanks@notonyournelly.blueyonder.com.co.uk> wrote
in message
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[snip]
> Fastest finger first!
???
Ivor
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| {{{{{Welcome}}}}} 2006-06-18, 7:11 pm |
| Thus spaketh Ivor Jones:
> "Telephoneman" <alexandergrahambellREMOVE@bigfoot.com>
> wrote in message
> news:4495bdf6$0$4385$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
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> [snip]
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> Sipgate are not a UK company. In any case, the directory is if I am
> correct, compiled and maintained by BT, are you sure they are obliged
> to insert the numbers of customers who are their direct competitors..?
>
> Could you quote the source of your information, please..? This is not
> a criticism, I am genuinely interested.
>
>
> Ivor
They have always listed telephone numbers of those on cable, unless you
asked not to be listed.
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| Paul Cupis 2006-06-18, 7:11 pm |
| Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Telephoneman" <alexandergrahambellREMOVE@bigfoot.com>
> wrote in message
>
> Sipgate are not a UK company. In any case, the directory is if I am
> correct, compiled and maintained by BT, are you sure they are obliged to
> insert the numbers of customers who are their direct competitors..?
BT are required to allow other operators to have entries added to the
OSIS database which is used for Directory Enquiries. The wholesale
provider for Sipgate (i.e. the company providing PSTN-interconnect)
should be able to add numbers to OSIS if asked.
Whether Sipgate are offered this service or whether they choose to offer
it to their users are different matters.
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| Ivor Jones 2006-06-19, 1:11 am |
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"Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
news:e74pug$atl$1@custnews.inweb.co.uk
> BT are required to allow other operators to have entries
> added to the OSIS database which is used for Directory
> Enquiries. The wholesale provider for Sipgate (i.e. the
> company providing PSTN-interconnect) should be able to
> add numbers to OSIS if asked.
>
> Whether Sipgate are offered this service or whether they
> choose to offer it to their users are different matters.
They state on their website it is not possible to add numbers to the
directory for "regulatory reasons" but no more detail is given. Maybe it
is something to do with German law..?
Ivor
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| Ivor Jones 2006-06-19, 1:11 am |
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<M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:05:29 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
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> This is plainly obvious by the total crap service they
> provide to customers.
I'm not opening up that particular can of worms again, but I am curious as
to what a company's country of origin has to do with their ability to
provide a service..?
Ivor
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| Paul Cupis 2006-06-19, 7:11 am |
| Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:e74pug$atl$1@custnews.inweb.co.uk
>
>
> They state on their website it is not possible to add numbers to the
> directory for "regulatory reasons" but no more detail is given. Maybe it
> is something to do with German law..?
Maybe it is, but it is not anything to do with UK regulation AFAICS.
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| Peter Gradwell 2006-06-19, 1:11 pm |
| John F Kappler wrote:
> This may not be the right place for this question but I'll try
> anyway....
>
> My VOIP SP offers me a local code number for incoming calls. Will I
> get a BT directory entry with that number?
Yes, that is possible, but usually depends on the SP.
cheers
peter
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| M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:05:29 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
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> This is plainly obvious by the total crap service they provide to
> customers.
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Is there any need for this? They offer a service, if you dont like it,
get over it. There are many happy customers using the service i'm sure!
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| {{{{{Welcome}}}}} 2006-06-19, 1:11 pm |
| Thus spaketh Sean:
> M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
> Is there any need for this? They offer a service, if you dont like it,
> get over it. There are many happy customers using the service i'm
> sure!
Most people ignore it, they killfilled it ages ago.
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| M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
> To my knowledge the only way to get a BT entry is to be a BT customer
> or maybe a Telewest customer .
Gradwell do it for ported numbers, but it costs 10 pounds.
http://www.gradwell.com/voip/number_porting.php
It isn't clear about not ported numbers.
Tim
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| Ivor Jones 2006-06-20, 1:11 am |
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"Sean" <seanhardy88NOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
> Is there any need for this? They offer a service, if you
> dont like it, get over it. There are many happy customers
> using the service i'm sure!
Get over him and killfile him like most here have done. He isn't even a
Sipgate customer any more so why he keeps on I'll never understand.
Ivor
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| M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:26:03 GMT, johnk@pceffect.co.uk (John F
> Kappler) wrote:
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> To my knowledge the only way to get a BT entry is to be a BT customer
> or maybe a Telewest customer .
You can get VoIP numbers listed in the telephone directory. It takes
about a week for your entry to show up in the online process. It's a
fairly painless process.
alex
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| {{{{{Welcome}}}}} 2006-06-21, 1:11 am |
| Thus spaketh alex:
> M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
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> You can get VoIP numbers listed in the telephone directory. It takes
> about a week for your entry to show up in the online process. It's a
> fairly painless process.
>
> alex
Always best not to reply to the village idiot, with it saying 'Maybe
Telewest customers', Telewest customers have always had the option of being
in the directory, mobile phone users can, and many VoIP users can too.
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www.southeastbirmingham.co.uk
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