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Starting UK VoIP Service again!
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| Solario 2006-07-20, 7:11 pm |
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Until now I have used Vonage for my UK VoIP numbers. I have had their
US service for several years because they offer signifficant price and
facilities advantages over PSTN Telco service.
However, comments in this group are leading me to believe this is not
the way to go in the UK. By comparrison with,say, (aql) Vonage seem
expensive. So, I have some questions to which uk.telecom.voip readers
might like to respond.
Is there a recomeded ATA, or ATA router that is recomendable. I need
at least two telephone ports preferably more. I need at least one Fax
and one voice. How easy is it to configure multiple numbers to each
port? what number is shown on outgoing caller ID?
Last, but not least, has anyone successfully ported number(s) from
Vonage.
Thanks
S.
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| Ivor Jones 2006-07-21, 1:11 am |
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"Solario" <adrian.auerhudson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1153426779.832303.47410@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com
> Until now I have used Vonage for my UK VoIP numbers. I
> have had their US service for several years because they
> offer signifficant price and facilities advantages over
> PSTN Telco service.
>
> However, comments in this group are leading me to believe
> this is not the way to go in the UK. By comparrison
> with,say, (aql) Vonage seem expensive. So, I have some
> questions to which uk.telecom.voip readers might like to
> respond.
>
> Is there a recomeded ATA, or ATA router that is
> recomendable. I need at least two telephone ports
> preferably more. I need at least one Fax and one voice.
> How easy is it to configure multiple numbers to each
> port? what number is shown on outgoing caller ID?
>
> Last, but not least, has anyone successfully ported
> number(s) from Vonage.
>
> Thanks
The AVM Fritz!Box Fon WLAN7050 has three phone ports and can handle up to
10 SIP accounts. It is a combined ADSL modem, wireless router (with QoS)
and ATA. It can be set to ring any or all phones on any combination of
incoming numbers and you use a code to select an account (other than the
ones directly assigned to the phone sockets) to call out on.
More info here: www.avm.de/en
Bear in mind that most UK providers don't support the T.38 fax protocol
and fax over other codecs is flaky at best. I've done it on G711a but I
wouldn't guarantee it to work every time.
I don't know about porting numbers, but from what I've read it's probably
more trouble than it's worth.
Ivor
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| Solario 2006-07-21, 1:11 pm |
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Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Solario" <adrian.auerhudson@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1153426779.832303.47410@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com
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> The AVM Fritz!Box Fon WLAN7050 has three phone ports and can handle up to
> 10 SIP accounts. It is a combined ADSL modem, wireless router (with QoS)
> and ATA. It can be set to ring any or all phones on any combination of
> incoming numbers and you use a code to select an account (other than the
> ones directly assigned to the phone sockets) to call out on.
>
> More info here: www.avm.de/en
>
> Bear in mind that most UK providers don't support the T.38 fax protocol
> and fax over other codecs is flaky at best. I've done it on G711a but I
> wouldn't guarantee it to work every time.
>
> I don't know about porting numbers, but from what I've read it's probably
> more trouble than it's worth.
>
> Ivor
Thanks Ivor,
The Fritz!Box looks like an excellent option. However, it has occurred
to me that if I pick up an ATA/Router in the US, it will have US
voltages, but be configurable to whatever VoIP accounts I choose to
utilize. Therefore I will be able to plug local kit into it, but set
it up for UK numbers.
Fax is a real pain. It is an old technology that I don't like. But at
times being able to fax documents to attorneys, accountants and clients
has been critical. It amazes me how many people in business still will
not trust e-mail. So, ASAP I will set up an experiment with fax. If I
can't fax with a new provider the way I can with Vonage then I can't
change.
Number porting, I would like to keep my Vonage numbers. (aql) think
they can have them ported. Depending on the fax situation, I may give
it a try. One of the selling points of VoIP is the ability to retain
numbers.
Thanks again
S.
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| Brian A 2006-07-21, 7:11 pm |
| On 21 Jul 2006 09:23:20 -0700, "Solario" <adrian.auerhudson@gmail.com>
wrote:
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>Ivor Jones wrote:
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>Thanks Ivor,
>
>The Fritz!Box looks like an excellent option. However, it has occurred
>to me that if I pick up an ATA/Router in the US, it will have US
>voltages, but be configurable to whatever VoIP accounts I choose to
>utilize. Therefore I will be able to plug local kit into it, but set
>it up for UK numbers.
>
>Fax is a real pain. It is an old technology that I don't like. But at
>times being able to fax documents to attorneys, accountants and clients
>has been critical. It amazes me how many people in business still will
>not trust e-mail. So, ASAP I will set up an experiment with fax. If I
>can't fax with a new provider the way I can with Vonage then I can't
>change.
>
>Number porting, I would like to keep my Vonage numbers. (aql) think
>they can have them ported. Depending on the fax situation, I may give
>it a try. One of the selling points of VoIP is the ability to retain
>numbers.
>
>Thanks again
>
>S.
I use a Sipura/Linksys SPA-3000 even though I don't have a PSTN line.
It has provision for 5 outgoing VOIP providers.
Alternatively, there is the linksys PAP2 (avoid Vonage locked ones) -
you can use it together with voxalot.com and get multiple outgoing
providers. If you want two incoming lines on the same handset go for
Linksys/Sipura 1001. I'd generally check out the Linksys/Sipura range.
The prices in the US are much better than here in most cases.
Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.
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| Ivor Jones 2006-07-21, 7:11 pm |
| "Brian A" <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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[snip]
> I use a Sipura/Linksys SPA-3000 even though I don't have
> a PSTN line. It has provision for 5 outgoing VOIP
> providers.
> Alternatively, there is the linksys PAP2 (avoid Vonage
> locked ones) - you can use it together with voxalot.com
> and get multiple outgoing providers. If you want two
> incoming lines on the same handset go for Linksys/Sipura
> 1001. I'd generally check out the Linksys/Sipura range.
> The prices in the US are much better than here in most
> cases.
The SPA-1001 is a good device, I have one I use when I'm travelling, if I
know there will be broadband available where I'm going, but it is a pure
ATA, so the OP would still need a router, and wouldn't get QoS. You also
can't have two simultaneous calls. Where the Fritz!Box range scores in my
view is its ability to have either or both phones ringing on any or all
lines, plus you also have a PSTN port which can be used for calls you
don't want to route over VoIP, such as 0870 numbers which are sometimes
more expensive to call over VoIP,or those you can't, such as emergency
services.
> Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.
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| Solario 2006-07-21, 7:11 pm |
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Ivor Jones wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> "Brian A" <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:bfg2c2h0cbu1226r6j8qrdi77f3mbcj06r@
4ax.com
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> [snip]
>
>
> The SPA-1001 is a good device, I have one I use when I'm travelling, if I
> know there will be broadband available where I'm going, but it is a pure
> ATA, so the OP would still need a router, and wouldn't get QoS. You also
> can't have two simultaneous calls. Where the Fritz!Box range scores in my
> view is its ability to have either or both phones ringing on any or all
> lines, plus you also have a PSTN port which can be used for calls you
> don't want to route over VoIP, such as 0870 numbers which are sometimes
> more expensive to call over VoIP,or those you can't, such as emergency
> services.
>
The Fritz!Box with UK purchased telephones is a definite contender. It
is important that the kit on my UK numbered lines is recognisably
different from that on my US numbered lines simply because of the
different dialing requirements. I also like the flexibility offered by
the Fritz!Box. On the downside is the price! :-(
The other contender right now is the D-Link DVG-1402S. It is less
costly and I can plug US kit directly into it. I just have to make
sure that the 'phones are recognizable different from the ones utilized
on my US numbered ATAs.
BTW, I do have other routers, router/ATAs (locked) and ATAs (locked).
I wouldn't rule out buying the right ATA. But, a router/ATA is more
convenient and saves shelf space.
Thanks for your all's input. It is helping the thinking process.
S.
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| Solario laid this down on his screen :
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> The Fritz!Box with UK purchased telephones is a definite contender. It
> is important that the kit on my UK numbered lines is recognisably
> different from that on my US numbered lines simply because of the
> different dialing requirements.
Surely you'd be better off designing a dialplan that allows you to dial
the way you need, rather than needing double the equipment?
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