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Have sipgate MUNGED my netgear router?
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| Shane Carpenter 2006-07-25, 7:11 am |
| Purchased a netgear TA612V off ebay a couple of months ago, got the open
firmware from sipgate and then reconfigured the router to work with
voip.co.uk. Been ok for a couple of months and then on Thursday night the
line went dead. Voip.co.uk checked my account and theres no problems. I've
used X-Lite from my PC to connect to voip.co.uk no problems.
If I reconfigure my netgear with my sipgate settings, it works fine, with my
voip.co.uk or voiptalk.org settings, it doesnt work.
So, the question is, does sipgate try and hijack my netgear router back to
them!
Cheers, Shane.
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| hairydog@despammed.com 2006-07-25, 7:11 am |
| On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 09:36:34 +0100, "Shane Carpenter" <nospam@nothere>
wrote:
>Been ok for a couple of months and then on Thursday night the
>line went dead.
Lightning damage, probably. There is no way that Sipgate could have
broken it, even if they had wanted to.
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| Shane Carpenter 2006-07-25, 7:11 am |
| <hairydog@despammed.com> wrote in message
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4ax.com...
> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 09:36:34 +0100, "Shane Carpenter" <nospam@nothere>
> wrote:
> Lightning damage, probably. There is no way that Sipgate could have
> broken it, even if they had wanted to.
Unlikely lightening, 1) there wasn't any at the time, 2) I'm on Telewest
cable, the wires are under ground, 3) it still works with Sipgate.
As far as I know they can still do something to the router as when the
router boots it looks at the sipgate TFTP server.
Shane.
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| Ivor Jones 2006-07-25, 1:11 pm |
| "Shane Carpenter" <nospam@nothere> wrote in message
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> <hairydog@despammed.com> wrote in message
> news:dkpbc2t1e38lih2ed2ki45iotiqbfdouhj@
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> Unlikely lightening, 1) there wasn't any at the time, 2)
> I'm on Telewest cable, the wires are under ground, 3) it
> still works with Sipgate.
> As far as I know they can still do something to the
> router as when the router boots it looks at the sipgate
> TFTP server.
Eh..? There is no reason they would deliberately try and do anything. What
did their tech support say..? You did ask, right..?
Ivor
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| Paul Cupis 2006-07-25, 1:11 pm |
| Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Shane Carpenter" <nospam@nothere> wrote in message
> news:44c5ed89$0$7659$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com
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> Eh..? There is no reason they would deliberately try and do anything. What
> did their tech support say..? You did ask, right..?
Any chance this coincided with the blocking of SIP connections from
external providers (~last Thursday/Friday)?
RumourMill: are SIPgate now restricting the source of calls to people
they peer with or their own numbers?
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| Ivor Jones 2006-07-25, 7:11 pm |
| "Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
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[snip]
> Any chance this coincided with the blocking of SIP
> connections from external providers (~last
> Thursday/Friday)?
>
> RumourMill: are SIPgate now restricting the source of
> calls to people they peer with or their own numbers?
I was talking to someone who thinks it might be something to do with
"SPIT" (Spam over Internet Telephones") - Google it and you'll get some
interesting info.
Ivor
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| Shane Carpenter 2006-07-25, 7:11 pm |
| "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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> Eh..? There is no reason they would deliberately try and do anything. What
> did their tech support say..? You did ask, right..?
>
> Ivor
>
Well I didn't fancy asking them if they had knackered my voip.co.uk
connection as I doubt they would respond with a YES. I'm not accusing them,
it's just weird that my router only now seems to work with sipgate. There is
a reason why they would do it, more sipgate users ;-)
Shane
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| Ivor Jones 2006-07-25, 7:11 pm |
| "Shane Carpenter" <no@spam please> wrote in message
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> "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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> Well I didn't fancy asking them if they had knackered my
> voip.co.uk connection as I doubt they would respond with
> a YES. I'm not accusing them, it's just weird that my
> router only now seems to work with sipgate. There is a
> reason why they would do it, more sipgate users ;-)
Or they could have done nothing and not released the open firmware..!
Ivor
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| Shane Carpenter 2006-07-25, 7:11 pm |
| "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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> Or they could have done nothing and not released the open firmware..!
>
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> Ivor
Or they could have released the open firmware to get people to buy the
netgear router only to take away their freedom a month or so later.
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| Ivor Jones 2006-07-25, 7:11 pm |
| "Shane Carpenter" <no@spam please> wrote in message
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> "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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> Or they could have released the open firmware to get
> people to buy the netgear router only to take away their
> freedom a month or so later.
You don't *really* believe that, do you..? There are several other devices
that they sell, none of which are or ever have been locked. The Netgear is
just one device, I don't know why it was originally supplied locked, but
if your theory is correct then surely all the equipment they sell would
come locked..?
Ivor
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| ßødincµs²°°° 2006-07-26, 1:11 am |
| Recently, Ivor Jones popped out over the fence
around uk.telecom.voip and said...
|"Shane Carpenter" <no@spam please> wrote in message
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|> "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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|> > Or they could have done nothing and not released the
|> > open firmware..!
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|> Or they could have released the open firmware to get
|> people to buy the netgear router only to take away their
|> freedom a month or so later.
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|You don't *really* believe that, do you..? There are several other devices
|that they sell, none of which are or ever have been locked. The Netgear is
|just one device, I don't know why it was originally supplied locked, but
|if your theory is correct then surely all the equipment they sell would
|come locked..?
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|Ivor
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OMG!!! I bought an AVM Fritz!Box Fon WLAN router from Sipgate and I'm
using it with five (FIVE!) other VoIP providers, what now? Will they
abduct me through some kind of teletransport? Is the router WLAN antenna
to irradiate me with a lethal dose of x-rays? Will the other party hear
me talking in Venusian?
8-D ROTFLSTHOOTWATK
BTW, the Netgear was locked to Sipgate because of the 555 bundled
minutes offer, remember?
Some people can't stop fiddling with their devices, innit?
Nite nite...
--
ßødincµs²°°° - The Y2K Druid
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| Shane Carpenter 2006-07-26, 1:11 pm |
| "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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> You don't *really* believe that, do you..? There are several other devices
> that they sell, none of which are or ever have been locked. The Netgear is
> just one device, I don't know why it was originally supplied locked, but
> if your theory is correct then surely all the equipment they sell would
> come locked..?
>
> Ivor
>
No I was just being silly. I guess the question now is what on earth has
happended to my netgear to make it only work with sipgate???
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| Ivor Jones 2006-07-26, 1:11 pm |
| "ßødincµs²°°°" <this.em@il.is.invalid> wrote in message
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[snip]
> BTW, the Netgear was locked to Sipgate because of the 555
> bundled minutes offer, remember?
Yes, I'd forgotten about that.
Ivor
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| Martin 2006-07-26, 7:11 pm |
| "Shane Carpenter" <nospam@nothere> wrote:
> No I was just being silly. I guess the question now is what on earth has
> happended to my netgear to make it only work with sipgate???
problems upstream at the ISP?
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| Shane Carpenter 2006-07-29, 1:11 pm |
| "Martin" <not-for-mail@example.com> wrote in message > problems upstream at
the ISP?
>
Don't think so, x-lite logs in ok with my voip.co.uk account 
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