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SIP Telephone numbers
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| How is it possible for SIP VOIP providers to be able to provide you with a
different countries landline number terminated to a SIP account. eg an
German number in the UK.
The reason I ask is that I have a client that requires a UK number in
Mozambique and a Mozambique number in the UK. How can this be done.
Yaz
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| Ivor Jones 2006-08-29, 1:11 pm |
| "Yaz" <yza82REMOVE@SPAMTRAPukgateway.net> wrote in message
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> How is it possible for SIP VOIP providers to be able to
> provide you with a different countries landline number
> terminated to a SIP account. eg an German number in the
> UK.
> The reason I ask is that I have a client that requires a
> UK number in Mozambique and a Mozambique number in the
> UK. How can this be done.
> Yaz
Well a UK number can be obtained from many providers, some free some not
so free, but you (usually) have to provide a UK address and/or register
from a UK IP address.
As for Mozambique, you'd have to ask, I have no idea if such numbers are
available.
Ivor
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| paul123 2006-08-29, 1:11 pm |
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Yaz wrote:
> How is it possible for SIP VOIP providers to be able to provide you with a
> different countries landline number terminated to a SIP account. eg an
> German number in the UK.
A provider, like Sipgate, Voiptalk etc, acquires them from a national
number distributor and then sells, rents, or even gives them free to
their clients - wherever they are. Thus I have several UK, French and
Italian numbers, even though I'm based in Spain.
Some voip providers, like voip.co.uk (at least when I looked at them a
few months back), will only give you numbers if you are a UK resident.
In Germany, you have to be a German resident to get a geo number -
Sipgate will only give you a non-geo German number if you apply for one
online from the UK. Rules vary from country to country.
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"paul123" <paul@redy.net> wrote in message
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> Yaz wrote:
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> A provider, like Sipgate, Voiptalk etc, acquires them from a national
> number distributor and then sells, rents, or even gives them free to
> their clients - wherever they are. Thus I have several UK, French and
> Italian numbers, even though I'm based in Spain.
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> Some voip providers, like voip.co.uk (at least when I looked at them a
> few months back), will only give you numbers if you are a UK resident.
> In Germany, you have to be a German resident to get a geo number -
> Sipgate will only give you a non-geo German number if you apply for one
> online from the UK. Rules vary from country to country.
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None of them appear to offer number in the country that i need. how may i
go about assisting in arranging this. Do I need to set up any agreement in
the home country. Obviously they need to allocate numbers to someone and
they will not do it for free.
Yaz
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| Ivor Jones 2006-08-29, 7:11 pm |
| "Yaz" <yza82REMOVE@SPAMTRAPukgateway.net> wrote in message
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> None of them appear to offer number in the country that i
> need. how may i go about assisting in arranging this. Do I need to set
> up any agreement in the home country. Obviously they need to allocate
> numbers to someone and
> they will not do it for free.
You need to find a company in the country concerned which is prepared to
do this, which isn't going to happen just for one person. There needs to
be a business incentive. There may even be legal reasons in that country
why it can't be done.
Ivor
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| Daviey Walker 2006-08-29, 7:11 pm |
| Yaz wrote:
> How is it possible for SIP VOIP providers to be able to provide you with a
> different countries landline number terminated to a SIP account. eg an
> German number in the UK.
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> The reason I ask is that I have a client that requires a UK number in
> Mozambique and a Mozambique number in the UK. How can this be done.
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> Yaz
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Have a look @
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index...rvice+providers
Pay special attention: didx.org, They have numbers for many countries
including Nigeria. If you register, you can request countries.
let us know how you get on.
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| NicHughes 2006-08-29, 7:11 pm |
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Yaz wrote:
> How is it possible for SIP VOIP providers to be able to provide you with a
> different countries landline number terminated to a SIP account. eg an
> German number in the UK.
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The general case is that once you have a VOIP enabled number you can
utilise it from anywhere, that it part of the benefit the IP part of
VOIP gives you.
To an extent Germany is an exception, they will not give out geographic
numbers in the first place unless you are a resident. Of course once
you have one you could conect to it from anywhere in the world you have
IP access and suitable VOIP equipment. I get the feeling the German
regulators disapprove of such things, perhaps someone has a better
understanding of the German regulatory attitude.
> The reason I ask is that I have a client that requires a UK number in
> Mozambique and a Mozambique number in the UK. How can this be done.
>
Then you need someone in each country who can issue you a telephone
number for use with a VOIP service. The UK part is fairly trivial as
there are a number of companies who will provide for your needs. I do
not know if such suppliers exist for Mozambique.
--
Nic
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| Thomas Kenyon 2006-08-30, 1:11 pm |
| Yaz wrote:
> "paul123" <paul@redy.net> wrote in message
> news:1156870244.960759.322240@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> None of them appear to offer number in the country that i need. how may i
> go about assisting in arranging this. Do I need to set up any agreement in
> the home country. Obviously they need to allocate numbers to someone and
> they will not do it for free.
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> Yaz
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Sadly, the only African Country I know that you can buy DIDs from is Nigeria
(which if my geography is correct is about half the distance).
If the prices for those DIDs are anything to go by, then this could be
quite expensive.
Are you sure you need DIDs for each country? Usully this is only
neccesary if you have customers in the UK that would be calling people
in Mozambique (and vice versa).
If you only have 2 offices that need to be able to talk to each other,
then you may be able to program the telephone exchanges at either end to
place the calls as IP calls and only have the numbers exist as virtual
extensions in the local PBXs.
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"paul123" <paul@redy.net> wrote >
> A provider, like Sipgate, Voiptalk etc, acquires them from a national
> number distributor
How do they acquire these numbers? Waht is the incentive for the origin
country where these are issued?
Yaz
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| Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer 2006-08-30, 7:11 pm |
| "NicHughes" <nichughes@mailandnews.com> wrote in message
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> Yaz wrote:
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> The general case is that once you have a VOIP enabled
> number you can utilise it from anywhere, that it part of
> the benefit the IP part of VOIP gives you.
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> To an extent Germany is an exception, they will not give
> out geographic numbers in the first place unless you are
> a resident. Of course once you have one you could conect
> to it from anywhere in the world you have IP access and
> suitable VOIP equipment. I get the feeling the German
> regulators disapprove of such things, perhaps someone has
> a better understanding of the German regulatory attitude.
The Germans are strange people ;-)
You could try giving a friend's address if you know anyone
there, it all depends on how stringent the checks are. I did
it that way, but YMMV.
KF
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"Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer" <> wrote > You could try
giving a friend's address if you know anyone
> there, it
Not looking for German but Mozambican numbers.
Yaz
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| Daviey Walker 2006-08-31, 7:11 am |
| Yaz wrote:
> "Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer" <> wrote > You could try
> giving a friend's address if you know anyone
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> Not looking for German but Mozambican numbers.
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> Yaz
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You could try: http://www.voipproviderslist.com/voip-provider/dotcom/
But in honesty, if your having a physical location in Mozambique why not
have a real telephone connection ie ISDN or similar. This could be
connected to an Asterisk PBX which has the UK VOIP number registered as
a separate Trunk (ie Sipgate).
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