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Outgrown my 2 Voip lines need a new router
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| Paul -M- 2007-01-13, 7:11 pm |
| Im currently using a Linksys WRT54G-P2 for both of my current lines. Is
there any other routers out there that will work with my cable connection
and provide another 5 or 6 Voip lines ?
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| Herman 2007-01-13, 7:11 pm |
| "Paul -M-" <paulmccrenospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Im currently using a Linksys WRT54G-P2 for both of my current lines. Is
> there any other routers out there that will work with my cable connection
> and provide another 5 or 6 Voip lines ?
FritzBox handles up to 10 SIP accounts (+1 PSTN) and 2/3 internal
extensions. Can recommend the 7050. It routes calls by dial string, but
you cannot modify the dial string unlike asterisk (apart from automatically
adding area codes and country codes if required).
Also works with cable (I am on NTL 4mb/s) but only one LAN port as the other
port is then used as WAN.
Of course, you don't say whether you also need more internal extensions.
Assuming this is not the case, the 7050 would be ideal. I also find it is
much better than the Linksys ATAs for registration (doesn't give up trying
to re-register if it loses the registration.) Take a look at Broadbandstuff
or Broadband buyer.
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| Herman 2007-01-13, 7:11 pm |
| "Herman" <whitehousemadhouse-2005@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> FritzBox handles up to 10 SIP accounts (+1 PSTN) and 2/3 internal
> extensions. Can recommend the 7050. It routes calls by dial string, but
> you cannot modify the dial string unlike asterisk (apart from
> automatically adding area codes and country codes if required).
>
> Also works with cable (I am on NTL 4mb/s) but only one LAN port as the
> other port is then used as WAN.
>
> Of course, you don't say whether you also need more internal extensions.
> Assuming this is not the case, the 7050 would be ideal. I also find it is
> much better than the Linksys ATAs for registration (doesn't give up trying
> to re-register if it loses the registration.) Take a look at
> Broadbandstuff or Broadband buyer.
Forgot to say, you could also use Voxalot (=free!), but I have not always
found it to be reliable. I use it on the 7050 for the few occasions when I
need to modify the outbound dial string.
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| Brian A 2007-01-14, 7:11 am |
| On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 21:41:13 GMT, "Herman"
<whitehousemadhouse-2005@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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>Forgot to say, you could also use Voxalot (=free!), but I have not always
>found it to be reliable. I use it on the 7050 for the few occasions when I
>need to modify the outbound dial string.
>
I agree a Fritzbox is a good choice. This link is to the
manufacturer's site.
http://tinyurl.com/y2f5tw
Note the difference between the 7050 and the 7140 - also part number
for Annex A.
It is sometimes difficult to find model numbers on some vendors'
sites, it can be difficult to be sure that you have found the right
model so it is worth checking with the vendor where a specific model
number is not mentioned. There are a number of different Fritzbox
models.
Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.
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| Paul -M- 2007-01-14, 7:11 am |
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Thanks Herman & Brian.
I had been lookin at the Fritzbox 7050 on sipgates site as they provide my
incoming line, http://www.sipgate.co.uk/voipshop/avm/fritzbox_fon_7050
thanks Herman for confirming my choice..
£119 seems a good price for this router
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| Ivor Jones 2007-01-14, 1:11 pm |
| "Paul -M-" <paulmccrenospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks Herman & Brian.
>
> I had been lookin at the Fritzbox 7050 on sipgates site
> as they provide my incoming line,
> http://www.sipgate.co.uk/voipshop/avm/fritzbox_fon_7050
> thanks Herman for confirming my choice..
> £119 seems a good price for this router
Personally, I'd wait for the 7170 to become available in the UK (Annex A).
It's only just out in Germany so may be a while, but will be worth waiting
for IMHO.
Here's a link to it on Sipgate's site (in German):
http://www.sipgate.de/voipshop/avm/fritzbox_fon_7170
Ivor
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| Herman 2007-01-15, 7:11 am |
| "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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> Personally, I'd wait for the 7170 to become available in the UK (Annex A).
> It's only just out in Germany so may be a while, but will be worth waiting
> for IMHO.
>
> Here's a link to it on Sipgate's site (in German):
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> http://www.sipgate.de/voipshop/avm/fritzbox_fon_7170
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> Ivor
What are the additional benefits of the 7170?
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| Ross Beer 2007-01-15, 7:11 am |
| Paul -M- wrote:
> Thanks Herman & Brian.
>
> I had been lookin at the Fritzbox 7050 on sipgates site as they provide my
> incoming line, http://www.sipgate.co.uk/voipshop/avm/fritzbox_fon_7050
> thanks Herman for confirming my choice..
>
> £119 seems a good price for this router
>
>
If you have spare ports on your router (CAT5) could you not just plug in
a VoIP phone or an ATA?
Regards,
Ross
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Ross Beer
VoiceHost Support
www.voicehost.co.uk
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| Ivor Jones 2007-01-15, 1:11 pm |
| "Herman" <whitehousemadhouse-2005@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
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> What are the additional benefits of the 7170?
Mainly, it has 3 phone ports rather than 2 as on the 7050, but I think the
7140 has 3 as well, not sure about the differences between the 7140 and
7170, they look identical and my German is not what it could be ;-)
Ivor
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| Ivor Jones 2007-01-15, 1:11 pm |
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> Paul -M- wrote:
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> If you have spare ports on your router (CAT5) could you
> not just plug in a VoIP phone or an ATA?
Yes, but with an integral device you get better QoS and there's one less
box and plug-top power supply..! Anything that reduces the number of
things that need plugging in is worth a look in my book ;-)
Ivor
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| Ivor Jones 2007-01-15, 1:11 pm |
| "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Herman" <whitehousemadhouse-2005@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
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> Mainly, it has 3 phone ports rather than 2 as on the
> 7050, but I think the 7140 has 3 as well, not sure about
> the differences between the 7140 and 7170, they look
> identical and my German is not what it could be ;-)
I've double checked - the 7140 only has 2 phone ports, the 7170 has three
and also supports ISDN. It looks as though they have put the wrong photo
on the Sipgate website, it shows the 7170 by the look of it. The AVM site
clearly shows the 7140 as only having 2 phone ports and the 7170 three.
Ivor
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| Paul -M- 2007-01-15, 1:11 pm |
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Ahh 189 Euros, roughly £125, nice price.
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| Herman 2007-01-15, 7:11 pm |
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> Mainly, it has 3 phone ports rather than 2 as on the 7050, but I think the
> 7140 has 3 as well, not sure about the differences between the 7140 and
> 7170, they look identical and my German is not what it could be ;-)
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> Ivor
The 7050 has two phone ports plus one hard-wired port. Never tried it, but
you can only connect two wires, so am assuming it needs a master socket.
The 7170 connects all three to one RJ 12 connector with a three way adapter.
Looking at the overview on the avm website, the 7170 has 4 LAN ports (or 3
LAN + 1 WAN if you are on cable) and 1 USB socket so it can act as print
server or attach mass storage. Otherwise looks the same as the 7050.
Not sure I would wait for the 7170, but depends on what you're after I
guess.
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| Herman 2007-01-15, 7:11 pm |
| "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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> [snip]
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> I've double checked - the 7140 only has 2 phone ports, the 7170 has three
> and also supports ISDN. It looks as though they have put the wrong photo
> on the Sipgate website, it shows the 7170 by the look of it. The AVM site
> clearly shows the 7140 as only having 2 phone ports and the 7170 three.
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> Ivor
The 7050 has three ports + ISDN. It is only the extra LAN ports and
potentially the USB connection which could be the decider.
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| Herman 2007-01-15, 7:11 pm |
| "Paul -M-" <paulmccrenospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Ahh 189 Euros, roughly £125, nice price.
Careful! You need Annex A. The German market is very keenly priced - but
they don't tend to sell Annex A kit which is required in UK. All the Annex
A kit tends to be more expensive...
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| Ross Beer pretended :
> Ross Beer
> VoiceHost Support
> www.voicehost.co.uk
Hi Ross,
What's the score with your /very/ expensive charges for UK Mobile
calls?
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| Ivor Jones 2007-01-16, 1:11 pm |
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> The 7050 has three ports + ISDN. It is only the extra
> LAN ports and potentially the USB connection which could
> be the decider.
Which is why I want the 7170. It will allow me to dispense with at least
one network switch and an ATA, thus freeing up 2 power sockets (I'm
running out..!)
The USB connection is of less value to me as I have two 300GB NAS drives,
each of which has 2 USB ports for connecting extra devices.
Ivor
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| Ivor Jones 2007-01-16, 1:11 pm |
| "Paul -M-" <paulmccrenospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Arghhhh decisions decisions, the 7170 does look an
> impressive piece of kit, I assume 1 of the 4 lan ports
> can be used as a WAN Port for my cable modem ?
Yes.
> 3 Lan ports is all I need and the USB port will be
> usefull to network my printer or a USB HDD.
Well I have 2 x 300GB NAS drives, each of which also has 2 USB sockets and
the printers are already networked so that aspect is of less value to me,
but the extra LAN ports is what's making me wait for the 7170 over the
7050.
> 10 SIP accounts is plenty for my needs, think I'l hold
> off my purchase till sipgate.co.uk have it on their site
> and see what the price difference will be, ebaying my
> wrt54gp2 and pap2 should offset the cost though.
I'm told the 7170 won't be available in the UK until next year, but it's
worth the wait for me.
Ivor
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| Ivor Jones 2007-01-16, 1:11 pm |
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> Careful! You need Annex A. The German market is very
> keenly priced - but they don't tend to sell Annex A kit
> which is required in UK. All the Annex A kit tends to be
> more expensive...
I'm told the 7170 isn't going to be available on the UK market for another
12 months, so it's up to you if you're prepared to wait. The 7050 is the
same spec. but only 2 LAN ports (1 if one used as WAN), the 7140 has 4 LAN
ports but only 2 FXS phone ports, so it's a case of deciding what you
want.
Ivor
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| Pet @ www.gymratz.co.uk ;¬) 2007-01-17, 7:11 pm |
| Ivor Jones wrote:
> Well I have 2 x 300GB NAS drives, each of which also has 2 USB sockets and
> the printers are already networked so that aspect is of less value to me,
> but the extra LAN ports is what's making me wait for the 7170 over the
> 7050.
I may be missing something here Ivor, but why does more than 1 lan port
on a router have such significant importance?
You can get a <quickly scans google> 5 port gigabit switch for £23.69 +
VAT thereby ugrading your network (with a few cards) to gigabit.
Your switch can have a single connection to one of the ports on the
router leaving you with 4 (or 15 or 23 or 47) spares for PC's also
meaning that ALL networked PC's can, if desired communicate at Gb speed
without being forced down to 100Mb restriction imposed by router.
This configuration also means only traffic from LAN to WAN has to pass
through router leaving more processing power available for VOIP and
firewalling duties etc.
And... you can bung your switch somewhere out of the way and just have a
single network cable running to router.
IMHO of course.
:¬)
Just a thought.
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| Ivor Jones 2007-01-17, 7:11 pm |
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""Pet @ www.gymratz.co.uk ;¬)"" <PeTe33@gymratz.co.uk>
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> Ivor Jones wrote:
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> I may be missing something here Ivor, but why does more
> than 1 lan port on a router have such significant
> importance?
See below:
> You can get a <quickly scans google> 5 port gigabit
> switch for £23.69 + VAT thereby ugrading your network
> (with a few cards) to gigabit.
I already have three switches (1x4 and 2x8 ports) - I am simply trying to
do away with one of them and reduce the number of devices and plugtop
power supplies..! That's why having 4 LAN ports built in to the router is
a distinct advantage - I'm running out of power sockets ;-)
> Your switch can have a single connection to one of the
> ports on the router leaving you with 4 (or 15 or 23 or
> 47) spares for PC's also meaning that ALL networked PC's
> can, if desired communicate at Gb speed without being
> forced down to 100Mb restriction imposed by router.
I don't use Gb, 100Mb is fast enough for my needs.
> This configuration also means only traffic from LAN to
> WAN has to pass through router leaving more processing
> power available for VOIP and firewalling duties etc.
Hmm, possibly, but not a major headache IMHO.
> And... you can bung your switch somewhere out of the way
> and just have a single network cable running to router.
The router, switches and PC's are all in one location, with a single cable
running to another room where there is another switch.
Ivor
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| Ivor Jones 2007-01-17, 7:11 pm |
| ""Pet @ www.gymratz.co.uk ;¬)"" <PeTe33@gymratz.co.uk>
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> Ivor Jones wrote:
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> Could you not just chop all your little switches in for
> one big one?
Possibly, but it'd still be one more power supply than if the router had 4
ports..!
Ivor
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