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acdeag

2007-03-22, 7:11 pm

I am looking for an ATA where I can have 2 VOIP lines and a POTS connection
(1 FXO and 2 FXS connections). I know you can have one VOIP line and a POTS
connection.

Does such a device exist?


Jono

2007-03-22, 7:11 pm

acdeag expressed precisely :
> I am looking for an ATA where I can have 2 VOIP lines and a POTS connection
> (1 FXO and 2 FXS connections). I know you can have one VOIP line and a POTS
> connection.
>
> Does such a device exist?


Fritz!box range would be a good place to start


Brian

2007-03-22, 7:11 pm

On 2007-03-22, acdeag <IJIJCDZBYOCJ@spammotel.com> wrote:

> I am looking for an ATA where I can have 2 VOIP lines and a POTS connection
> (1 FXO and 2 FXS connections). I know you can have one VOIP line and a POTS
> connection.
>
> Does such a device exist?


You'll get what you want, and more, with these:

Zyxel Prestige 2602HWL
Billion 7402VGP
Zyxel 2002L

Brian.
Ivor Jones

2007-03-23, 1:11 am

"acdeag" <IJIJCDZBYOCJ@spammotel.com> wrote in message
news:aKBMh.215$Fe4.8@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk
> I am looking for an ATA where I can have 2 VOIP lines and
> a POTS connection (1 FXO and 2 FXS connections). I know
> you can have one VOIP line and a POTS connection.
>
> Does such a device exist?


Any of the Fritz!Box range (www.avm.de/en) - depending on model, 2 or 3
phone ports, up to 10 SIP accounts and a POTS connection.

Ivor


Herman

2007-03-23, 7:11 am

"Brian" <bandj@o2.co.uk> wrote in message
news:etv337$m27$1$830fa795@news.demon.co.uk...
> On 2007-03-22, acdeag <IJIJCDZBYOCJ@spammotel.com> wrote:
>
>
> You'll get what you want, and more, with these:
>
> Zyxel Prestige 2602HWL
> Billion 7402VGP
> Zyxel 2002L
>
> Brian.


Are these imports reliable? I had a look at them and decided that I
couldn't take the risk.


Brian A

2007-03-23, 7:11 am

On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 23:22:15 +0000 (UTC), Brian <bandj@o2.co.uk>
wrote:

>On 2007-03-22, acdeag <IJIJCDZBYOCJ@spammotel.com> wrote:
>
>
>You'll get what you want, and more, with these:
>
>Zyxel Prestige 2602HWL
>Billion 7402VGP
>Zyxel 2002L
>
>Brian.

Afaik, please correct me if I am wrong, the Zyxel devices only have
fallback / possible manual gateway selection to PSTN and not an
automatic selection by means of the number dialled.
For example, with a Fritzbox, or Sipura 3000/3102, a dialled number
type can automatically be routed via PSTN, no need to select PSTN
first and then dial a number. Afaik this facility isn't available on
the Zyxel - is it? I don't know about the Billion.
Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.
Brian

2007-03-23, 7:11 am

On 2007-03-23, Herman <whhitehousemadhouse-2005@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> "Brian" <bandj@o2.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:etv337$m27$1$830fa795@news.demon.co.uk...
>
> Are these imports reliable? I had a look at them and decided that I
> couldn't take the risk.


I haven't the foggiest. Reliabilty comments would have to come from
someone who has used any of them. The OP could make a start by comparing
the 2002L and the Fritz!Box Fon ATA to see whether they suit her needs.
Both are sold by reputable traders.

Brian.
Brian

2007-03-23, 7:11 am

On 2007-03-23, Brian A <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Afaik, please correct me if I am wrong, the Zyxel devices only have
> fallback / possible manual gateway selection to PSTN and not an
> automatic selection by means of the number dialled.
> For example, with a Fritzbox, or Sipura 3000/3102, a dialled number
> type can automatically be routed via PSTN, no need to select PSTN
> first and then dial a number. Afaik this facility isn't available on
> the Zyxel - is it? I don't know about the Billion.


I'm in no position to correct you as I did not read the Zyxel manual,
but from its specifications I think you have it right.

As a matter of interest: if a number is designated as being routed to
the PSTN with the Fritzbox or Sipura does that mean it cannot be routed
via a VoIP line without changing the configuration?

Brian.
Jono

2007-03-23, 7:11 pm

Brian presented the following explanation :

>
> As a matter of interest: if a number is designated as being routed to
> the PSTN with the Fritzbox or Sipura does that mean it cannot be routed
> via a VoIP line without changing the configuration?


From the SPA3X0X's perspective, you can programme the dial plan to
automatically route calls that match a particular format ie. 08x. would
match all numbers, of any length beginning 08 which you could
automatically route over the PSTN. However, it is also possible to,
say, make it send calls that match 908x. over voip, essentially by
prefixing the call, in this instance with a 9.


Brian

2007-03-23, 7:11 pm

On 2007-03-23, Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote:

> Brian presented the following explanation :
>
>
> From the SPA3X0X's perspective, you can programme the dial plan to
> automatically route calls that match a particular format ie. 08x. would
> match all numbers, of any length beginning 08 which you could
> automatically route over the PSTN. However, it is also possible to,
> say, make it send calls that match 908x. over voip, essentially by
> prefixing the call, in this instance with a 9.


I think what the Zyxel does is automatically send all calls out on the
VoIP line. If you want 08x to go over the PSTN the number is prefixed.
This approach doesn't appear significantly different from the SPA's when
it comes to choosing either a VoIP or PSTN line.

Brian.
Brian A

2007-03-23, 7:11 pm

On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 11:59:52 +0000 (UTC), Brian <bandj@o2.co.uk>
wrote:

>On 2007-03-23, Brian A <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>I'm in no position to correct you as I did not read the Zyxel manual,
>but from its specifications I think you have it right.
>
>As a matter of interest: if a number is designated as being routed to
>the PSTN with the Fritzbox or Sipura does that mean it cannot be routed
>via a VoIP line without changing the configuration?
>
>Brian.

If you have decided that, say, international numbers, starting with
00, are to be routed via a voip gateway, and then you decide, because
it is a sunny day, and you want to be nice to BT, you want to route
via BT, you can't as it stands. However, you can do what I do. Allow
for this eventuality. Provide a gateway code in your dial plan.
For example:-
#00 PTSN line
#01 voip.co.uk
#03 astratel
#04 vyke.co.uk
#05 voxalot
etc.etc.

Then, if you do want to go via another provider you can. Simply dial
your gateway code and then dial your number. Handy if a provider goes
down.

However, Sipura also have another answer.
If, for example, you have an account with 1899, and you are on BT, you
could have a 'warm line'.
P5 <:1899><:@gw0>
This means that if you wait 5 seconds, before dialling, your call will
automatically route to 1899 via your BT line. Then you can dial your
number when you hear the 1899 voice prompt. If you dial before 5
seconds has elapsed your call routing will be determined by another
part of the dial plan.
Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.
Herman

2007-03-24, 7:11 pm

"Brian" <bandj@o2.co.uk> wrote in message
news:eu0ffo$87f$2$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk...
> On 2007-03-23, Brian A <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I'm in no position to correct you as I did not read the Zyxel manual,
> but from its specifications I think you have it right.
>
> As a matter of interest: if a number is designated as being routed to
> the PSTN with the Fritzbox or Sipura does that mean it cannot be routed
> via a VoIP line without changing the configuration?
>
> Brian.


FritzBox has override codes to manually select which VoIP line or landline
it should use in preference to the automatic routings that have been entered


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