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[OT again] was: Re: Competitive rates for Voip Telephony
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| Paul Cupis 2007-04-06, 1:11 am |
| Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:46158fb0.0@entanet
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> No, it doesn't. Usenet calls newsgroups newsgroups, not forums.
A newsgroup is a forum - http://foldoc.org/?query=newsgroup
If it comes down to a definition in FOLDOC against a definition in the
unpublished "Dictionary of Ivor"...
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| In article <46159b54.0@entanet>, Paul Cupis <paul@cupis.co.uk> writes
>Ivor Jones wrote:
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>A newsgroup is a forum - http://foldoc.org/?query=newsgroup
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>If it comes down to a definition in FOLDOC against a definition in the
>unpublished "Dictionary of Ivor"...
Apologies for following up my earlier post so soon.
From my looks I see that technically both definitions are correct, but
Ivor has the benefit as the newsgroup discussions tend to define
themselves as newsgroups not forums or fora and the process is
considerably older.
The difference can be viewed at ...
For newsgroup definition see - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsgroup
and
For forums see - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forums
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John Clark
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| Paul Cupis 2007-04-06, 7:11 am |
| John wrote:
> In article <46159b54.0@entanet>, Paul Cupis <paul@cupis.co.uk> writes
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> Apologies for following up my earlier post so soon.
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> From my looks I see that technically both definitions are correct, but
> Ivor has the benefit as the newsgroup discussions tend to define
> themselves as newsgroups not forums or fora and the process is
> considerably older.
Do you have a reference which is not wikipedia, please?
Forums predate newgroups by by hundreds of years, and FOLDOC and the
Jargon file predate wikipedia.
> The difference can be viewed at ...
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> For newsgroup definition see - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsgroup
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> and
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> For forums see - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forums
Redirects to "Internet Forums" which Ivor and I would probably describe
as "web forums" and which we both know are very different to usenet.
I am not talking about "web forums", I am talking about forums.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/forum
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[snip]
2. A public meeting place for open discussion.
3. A medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas, such as a
newspaper, a radio or television program, or a website.
# A public meeting or presentation involving a discussion usually among
experts and often including audience participation.
#
All very off-topic though.
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| Ivor Jones 2007-04-06, 1:11 pm |
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"Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
news:46159b54.0@entanet
> Ivor Jones wrote:
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> A newsgroup is a forum -
> http://foldoc.org/?query=newsgroup
> If it comes down to a definition in FOLDOC against a
> definition in the unpublished "Dictionary of Ivor"...
www.usenet.org.uk is the definitive description of Usenet as far as I'm
concerned. Find me the word forum on that page.
Ivor
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| Paul Cupis 2007-04-06, 1:11 pm |
| Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:46159b54.0@entanet
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> www.usenet.org.uk is the definitive description of Usenet as far as I'm
> concerned. Find me the word forum on that page.
It doesn't define the word forum, and it's doesn't ban the use of it.
The dictionary does define the word forum.
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| Ivor Jones 2007-04-06, 1:11 pm |
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"Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4616598e.0@entanet
> Ivor Jones wrote:
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> It doesn't define the word forum, and it's doesn't ban
> the use of it. The dictionary does define the word forum.
I don't care what a dictionary says. A Usenet *Newsgroup* is not a forum
according to *Usenet convention*, which is what I go by when using the
system.
Ivor
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| Paul Cupis 2007-04-06, 1:11 pm |
| Ivor Jones wrote:
> I don't care what a dictionary says.
Okay.
I do.
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| Ivor Jones 2007-04-06, 1:11 pm |
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"Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
news:46165eb0.0@entanet
> Ivor Jones wrote:
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> Okay.
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> I do.
Ok, but you obviously don't care for the views of the *majority* of Usenet
users. I do.
Ivor
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| Paul Cupis 2007-04-06, 1:11 pm |
| Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:46165eb0.0@entanet
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> Ok, but you obviously don't care for the views of the *majority* of Usenet
> users. I do.
The *majority* of Usenet users do not try to "correct" people who use
the word forum. Taking this group as a sample, only 1 does. You.
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| clavox@btinternet.com 2007-04-06, 7:11 pm |
| On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 16:33:55 +0100, Paul Cupis <paul@cupis.co.uk>
wrote:
>Ivor Jones wrote:
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>The *majority* of Usenet users do not try to "correct" people who use
>the word forum. Taking this group as a sample, only 1 does. You.
Chairman Ivor will correct anyone who post anything to this forum that
he dosen't like .
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| Ivor Jones 2007-04-06, 7:11 pm |
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"Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
news:46166895.0@entanet
> Ivor Jones wrote:
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> The *majority* of Usenet users do not try to "correct"
> people who use the word forum. Taking this group as a
> sample, only 1 does. You.
The majority of users don't complain. Taking this group as an example,
only one does. You. (I don't count Ron).
Ivor
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| Ivor Jones 2007-04-07, 1:11 am |
| <clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> Chairman Ivor will correct anyone who post anything to
> this forum that he dosen't like .
I haven't got to start yawning again, have I..? Thought we were over that
one.
Ivor
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| clavox@btinternet.com 2007-04-07, 7:11 am |
| On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 01:12:26 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
><clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:g4ed13de4ikeh8ak1n7c7uo9u7b25ckiln@
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>I haven't got to start yawning again, have I..? Thought we were over that
>one.
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good chap .
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| Richard H Huelin 2007-04-07, 1:11 pm |
| clavox@btinternet.com wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 01:12:26 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
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> You will be pleased to know we are and now starting on
> Or any combination if is just as easy for me let me know there's a
> good chap .
snip
You are so cute when you attempt to justify your stupidity.
Do it again.
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| clavox@btinternet.com 2007-04-07, 1:11 pm |
| On Sat, 07 Apr 2007 17:53:26 +0100, Richard H Huelin
<august2006@nospammershere.co.uk> wrote:
>clavox@btinternet.com wrote:
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>You are so cute when you attempt to justify your stupidity.
> Do it again.
Damn it I had to re instill agent last night and forgot to put you and
on or two other morons back in the kill file I will put you back in
now before I forget .
Now FOAD .
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