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FRITZ!Box Fon (Annex A)
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| Adrian 2007-05-02, 7:11 pm |
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After taking the great advice proffered here, I located an EU FRITZ!
Box Fon (Annex A) on e-bay. I purchased same, and it arrived here in
the US last night.
Unfortunately the software and documentation are all in German. I
don't read German! :-)
Can any one here help me set it up in LAN mode for UK telephone
numbers and UK standard telephones?
Some advice, a pointer to some English language software and
documentation would be great. Or better yet, is there anyone who could
send me a zipped copy of both?
Thanks guys
Adrian
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| adrian_h_hudson@yahoo.com declared for all the world to hear...
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> After taking the great advice proffered here, I located an EU FRITZ!
> Box Fon (Annex A) on e-bay. I purchased same, and it arrived here in
> the US last night.
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> Unfortunately the software and documentation are all in German. I
> don't read German! :-)
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> Can any one here help me set it up in LAN mode for UK telephone
> numbers and UK standard telephones?
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> Some advice, a pointer to some English language software and
> documentation would be great. Or better yet, is there anyone who could
> send me a zipped copy of both?
>
> Thanks guys
www.avm.de then click on "english"
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Regards
Jon
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| Ivor Jones 2007-05-02, 7:11 pm |
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"Jon" <spam@jonparker.plus.com> wrote in message
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> adrian_h_hudson@yahoo.com declared for all the world to
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> www.avm.de then click on "english"
Assuming the non-wireless Fritz!Box Fon, the download page is here
(Tinyurl used for long link):
http://preview.tinyurl.com/2v8qcd
Once downloaded, you need to go to the Firmware Upgrade screen to install
it, this is located under System, not sure what that is in German..!
Ivor
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| Adrian 2007-05-03, 1:11 pm |
| On May 2, 2:15 pm, Jon <s...@jonparker.plus.com> wrote:
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Thanks Jon,
Software Downloaded.
Adrian
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| Adrian 2007-05-03, 1:11 pm |
| On May 2, 4:21 pm, "Ivor Jones" <i...@despammed.invalid> wrote:
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Appreciated Ivor,
Yes, mine is the non-wireless version. I plan to eventually go for a
US wireless router. Such would be less likely to have compatibility
issues with my US notebook.
Unfortunately, when I came to plug in my Fritz!box last night, I
discovered that the protruding tip and ring conductor on my US power
supply is too short for the unit. So this weekend I will try to track
down an appropriate connector,
Adrian
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| Philippe Deleye 2007-05-05, 7:11 am |
| "Adrian" <adrian_h_hudson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1178136664.601318.6360@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
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> After taking the great advice proffered here, I located an EU FRITZ!
> Box Fon (Annex A) on e-bay. I purchased same, and it arrived here in
> the US last night.
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> Unfortunately the software and documentation are all in German. I
> don't read German! :-)
Adrian
I do not have experience with English software, or with converting german
boxes into English
Howeevr I speak german and english, and I have already helped english
speaking usres to set-up theor boxes
If you need any help, pls do not hesitate to e-mail me or give me a call ...
Philippe
philippe dot deleye at advalvas dot be
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| Adrian 2007-05-06, 7:11 pm |
| On May 5, 12:12 am, "Philippe Deleye"
<Philippe.Del...@blablabla.advalvas.be> wrote:
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> Adrian
> I do not have experience with English software, or with converting german
> boxes into English
> Howeevr I speak german and english, and I have already helped english
> speaking usres to set-up theor boxes
> If you need any help, pls do not hesitate to e-mail me or give me a call ...
> Philippe
> philippe dot deleye at advalvas dot be
Thanks Philippe,
Well I do need some help. I am hoping that you, Jon, or Ivor can help
me over the last hurdles.
First a recap: Over the weekend I picked up a power supply unit. For
USD11.00 Sandy's Electronics sold me a 120v to 12v converter with the
appropriate tip and ring connector.
Then I set about customizing the Fritz box. I found the only way to
mess with the firmware, and settings, in the box was to have my
Notebook plugged into the LAN or USB connector on the box itself.
This initially meant that I was not connected to the internet.
First, I loaded the firmware and reset set the box to utilize the LAN
port for connecting to my router. I unplugged my Notebook and
connected the box to the router thru the LAN port. It recognized the
connection and the DSL light came on. So far so good! At this point
I also had Internet access thru the box!
However, from this point on I had to sit next to the shelf containing
my various routers and ATAs with my notebook connected to the Fritz!
box by a short length of USB cable. :-)
Using the information provided by AQL (my VoIP service provider) I was
able to register the VoIP number and Password utilizing the SIP URL.
At least the box says it made the connection.
Then I checked the telephony options. I set the region to "United
Kingdom". I am using UK kit on UK numbers. The box says that that
both phone ports are "looking @" my AQL VoIP account. But, no
telephone lights are "on" on the box. The only lights "on" are power
and DSL. Moreover when I plug in a telephone set, I only hear an "Out
of Service" tone. I am unable to dial or receive calls.
Something is missing here, I know. But, after several hours of what
my American Tech. friends call a "Nosebleed", I have had enough. So
any suggestions? I will attack the issue again later in the week.
Many thanks
Adrian
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| Ivor Jones 2007-05-07, 1:11 pm |
| "Adrian" <adrian_h_hudson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1178488916.213143.285850@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com
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> Then I checked the telephony options. I set the region
> to "United Kingdom". I am using UK kit on UK numbers.
> The box says that that both phone ports are "looking @"
> my AQL VoIP account. But, no telephone lights are "on"
> on the box. The only lights "on" are power and DSL.
> Moreover when I plug in a telephone set, I only hear an
> "Out of Service" tone. I am unable to dial or receive
> calls.
They are the only lights that should be on in standby mode. The fixed line
and internet phone LEDs only come on while a call is in progress, the
internet one should light when you lift the handset of a connected phone.
What are you calling an "out of service" tone..? Note that the Fritz uses
German tones, irrespective of the regional settings, so the dial tone
sounds very similar to the UK number unobtainable tone.
If you can configure a Sipgate account, try calling my speaking clock on
1431320.
Ivor
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| Adrian (adrian_h_hudson@yahoo.com) ha scritto:
:: After taking the great advice proffered here, I located
:: an EU FRITZ! Box Fon (Annex A) on e-bay.
:: I purchased same, and it arrived here in the US last night.
Can you tell us the ebay nickname of the seller, please?
And please look at the silver label on the bottom of the
device and tell us if there is wrote "Annex A", thanks.
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| Adrian 2007-05-13, 1:11 pm |
| On May 7, 9:17 am, "Ivor Jones" <i...@despammed.invalid> wrote:
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> They are the only lights that should be on in standby mode. The fixed line
> and internet phone LEDs only come on while a call is in progress, the
> internet one should light when you lift the handset of a connected phone.
> What are you calling an "out of service" tone..? Note that the Fritz uses
> German tones, irrespective of the regional settings, so the dial tone
> sounds very similar to the UK number unobtainable tone.
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> If you can configure a Sipgate account, try calling my speaking clock on
> 1431320.
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> Ivor
Thanks Ivor,
I think we need an area code with that speaking clock number. :-)
After more frustrating hours of messing with this I am able to dial
the Fritz from another Line. Moreover, I can dial out with it. But
once a connection is established I can hear nothing at the Fritz end.
If I speak into the telephone plugged into the Frit!box the remote
phone can hear me. I can never hear the other party from the Frirz.
For example if I dial my voicemail account thru the Fritz!boz and AQL,
I can hear a ringing tone. When voicemail picks up I hear nothing.
Adrian
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| Adrian 2007-05-13, 1:11 pm |
| On May 13, 10:13 am, "SBS" <no.spam@me> wrote:
> Adrian (adrian_h_hud...@yahoo.com) ha scritto:
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> :: After taking the great advice proffered here, I located
> :: an EU FRITZ! Box Fon (Annex A) on e-bay.
> :: I purchased same, and it arrived here in the US last night.
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> Can you tell us the ebay nickname of the seller, please?
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> And please look at the silver label on the bottom of the
> device and tell us if there is wrote "Annex A", thanks.
The seller's privacy should probably remain intact!
No silver label. It was sold as Annex A. However, I do not utilize
DSL. I am using the Fritz with the LAN port configured as the
internet connection. It is plugged into a D-Link LAN port. Said D-
Link is plugged into Charter Cable's interface (modem) box.
Adrian.
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| Adrian was thinking very hard :
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> Thanks Ivor,
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> I think we need an area code with that speaking clock number.
No you don't it's the Sipgate ID. Simply dial it using a Sipgate "line"
& you will get through to the clock.
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| Ivor Jones 2007-05-13, 7:11 pm |
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"Adrian" <adrian_h_hudson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1179078283.041395.109090@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
> On May 7, 9:17 am, "Ivor Jones" <i...@despammed.invalid>
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> Thanks Ivor,
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> I think we need an area code with that speaking clock
> number. :-)
Only if you're calling it from the PSTN, the SIP ID will work from another
Sipgate number. However, just for you, it's 020 7043 1320.
Ivor
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| Ivor Jones 2007-05-13, 7:11 pm |
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"Adrian" <adrian_h_hudson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1179078489.960070.81490@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com
> On May 13, 10:13 am, "SBS" <no.spam@me> wrote:
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> The seller's privacy should probably remain intact!
Why..?
> No silver label. It was sold as Annex A. However, I do
> not utilize DSL. I am using the Fritz with the LAN port
> configured as the internet connection. It is plugged
> into a D-Link LAN port. Said D- Link is plugged into
> Charter Cable's interface (modem) box.
Thereby lies the answer. If you're not using the internal ADSL modem,
whether it's Annex A or B doesn't matter.
Although with no serial number label I would have sent it back.
Ivor
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| Adrian (adrian_h_hudson@yahoo.com) ha scritto:
::: Can you tell us the ebay nickname of the seller, please?
:::
::: And please look at the silver label on the bottom of the
::: device and tell us if there is wrote "Annex A", thanks.
:: The seller's privacy should probably remain intact!
Sure!
:: No silver label.
This is a problem, because if there isnt' a silver label on
the bottom of the device, then you can't know its model no.
and you have lost any kinds of AVM product warranty
(which is 5 years).
Can we know how much you have paid for it?
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| Adrian wrote:
> After taking the great advice proffered here, I located an EU FRITZ!
> Box Fon (Annex A) on e-bay. I purchased same, and it arrived here in
> the US last night.
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> Unfortunately the software and documentation are all in German. I
> don't read German! :-)
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That sounds strange to me. As far as I know. in Germany only
Annex B is used (for POTS as well ISDN).
In the Netherlands, you can buy international version
Annex A and B, but they have English GUI.
Wim
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| John Miller 2007-05-14, 7:11 pm |
| > That sounds strange to me. As far as I know. in Germany only
> Annex B is used (for POTS as well ISDN).
> In the Netherlands, you can buy international version
> Annex A and B, but they have English GUI.
There is a patch available for German Annex-B 7050's to make them Annex-A
(and still in German language). Many people use it this way outside of
Germany when they buy one from eBay.
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| Ivor Jones 2007-05-14, 7:11 pm |
| "John Miller" <johnmiller@nospamplease.com> wrote in
message news:GvKdnR4py7B2K9Xb4p2dnA@giganews.com
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> There is a patch available for German Annex-B 7050's to
> make them Annex-A (and still in German language). Many
> people use it this way outside of Germany when they buy
> one from eBay.
The problem with that is that there are hardware differences between Annex
A and B, it's not just soft/firmware.
Ivor
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| Adrian 2007-05-14, 7:11 pm |
| On May 13, 11:40 am, Jono <notha...@blueyonder.invalid> wrote:
> Adrian was thinking very hard :
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> No you don't it's the Sipgate ID. Simply dial it using a Sipgate "line"
> & you will get through to the clock.
Duh! Very senior moment there. Now I get it.
And the answer is "I do not hear the clock". I cannot hear anything
after the ringing tone on any call. As soon as a call is answered I
hear nothing.
If I call myself on another number I can hear from the Fritz end.
Adrian
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| Adrian 2007-05-14, 7:11 pm |
| On May 13, 11:55 am, "Ivor Jones" <i...@despammed.invalid> wrote:
> "Adrian" <adrian_h_hud...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Understood. I didn't catch your drift first time round.
You had published that number before. I just didn'd have it to hand.
Anyway, as of yet, I can't hear anything at the remote end after the
ringing tone.
Adrian
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| Adrian 2007-05-14, 7:11 pm |
| On May 13, 11:57 am, "Ivor Jones" <i...@despammed.invalid> wrote:
> "Adrian" <adrian_h_hud...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Common courtesy. I would expect the same. I would do the same for
you.
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> Thereby lies the answer. If you're not using the internal ADSL modem,
> whether it's Annex A or B doesn't matter.
Indeed. The Annex A, Annex B issue is a sidetrack. It is not
relevent to my problem.
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> Although with no serial number label I would have sent it back.
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There is a seriel number on the base. It is not silver.
> Ivor
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| Adrian 2007-05-14, 7:11 pm |
| On May 13, 2:14 pm, "SBS" <no.spam@me> wrote:
> Adrian (adrian_h_hud...@yahoo.com) ha scritto:
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> ::: Can you tell us the ebay nickname of the seller, please?
> :::
> ::: And please look at the silver label on the bottom of the
> ::: device and tell us if there is wrote "Annex A", thanks.
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> :: The seller's privacy should probably remain intact!
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> Sure!
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> :: No silver label.
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> This is a problem, because if there isnt' a silver label on
> the bottom of the device, then you can't know its model no.
> and you have lost any kinds of AVM product warranty
> (which is 5 years).
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> Can we know how much you have paid for it?
The warrenty would not be valid in the US anyway. AVM do not service
this market. However, I have UK equipment I want to utilize with UK
numbers.
For the Fritz! I paid USD50.00.
Adrian
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| Adrian 2007-05-14, 7:11 pm |
| On May 14, 12:03 pm, Wim J <nos...@pc001.local> wrote:
> Adrian wrote:
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> That sounds strange to me. As far as I know. in Germany only
> Annex B is used (for POTS as well ISDN).
> In the Netherlands, you can buy international version
> Annex A and B, but they have English GUI.
>
> Wim
Mine was purchased from Portugal. The CD that came with it is in
German.
Since then I have downloaded English language documentation &
dowloaded and installed English firmware.
Adrian
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| Ivor Jones 2007-05-14, 7:11 pm |
| "Adrian" <adrian_h_hudson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1179174884.528045.287760@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com
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> Understood. I didn't catch your drift first time round.
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> You had published that number before. I just didn'd have
> it to hand.
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> Anyway, as of yet, I can't hear anything at the remote
> end after the ringing tone.
Interesting. The Sipura 1001 that the clock is connected to does sometimes
fail to register, but it's ok at the moment and I just tried several calls
from both UK and German Sipgate accounts, plus the PSTN and all worked
fine. There shouldn't be much of a ringing tone unless the line is in use,
in which case you'll get ring tone until it's free (max 30 seconds) but
you should get the audio ok, I'm puzzled.
Try this access route - call 2838111 (Sipgate) or 01352 838111 (PSTN). You
will get a short voice prompt followed by a dial tone. Then dial the
number 05648081.
Let me know if that works.
Ivor
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| Adrian wrote:
> On May 14, 12:03 pm, Wim J <nos...@pc001.local> wrote:
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> Mine was purchased from Portugal. The CD that came with it is in
> German.
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> Since then I have downloaded English language documentation &
> dowloaded and installed English firmware.
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> Adrian
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Then I think you will have wonderfull box now?
At least I am very satiesfied with my 7050 (allthough
I can make wishlist easily  ).
Wim
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| John Miller 2007-05-14, 7:11 pm |
| > The problem with that is that there are hardware differences
> between Annex A and B, it's not just soft/firmware.
What differences and what problems exactly?
I have an international (English) 7050, and two German 7050 (one of them
patched to Annex A, the other one patched to English + Annex A) - and all
three of them work perfectly on my Annex A line here...
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| John Miller 2007-05-14, 7:11 pm |
| >> > That sounds strange to me. As far as I know. in Germany[vbcol=seagreen]
BTW, I think the Austrian version is also in German with Annex A (out of the
box).
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| John Miller (johnmiller@nospamplease.com) ha scritto:
::::: That sounds strange to me. As far as I know. in Germany
::::: only Annex B is used (for POTS as well ISDN).
::::: In the Netherlands, you can buy international version
::::: Annex A and B, but they have English GUI.
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:: BTW, I think the Austrian version is also in German with
:: Annex A (out of the box).
Yes, it is.
The hardware differences in most cases have no effect on the
quality of the annex A broadband connection.
The difference is among some resistors value used to build
the internal DSL frequency filter of the device.
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| Wim J (nospam@pc001.local) ha scritto:
:: At least I am very satiesfied with my 7050
I am too with mine. It's really a precious.
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| Adrian (adrian_h_hudson@yahoo.com) ha scritto:
:: The warrenty would not be valid in the US anyway.
This is false, because in case of broken device
you should have to send the box to Germany.
:: For the Fritz! I paid USD50.00.
Not too bad.
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| John Miller (johnmiller@nospamplease.com) ha scritto:
:: all three of them work perfectly on my Annex A line here...
Of course.
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| John Miller (johnmiller@nospamplease.com) ha scritto:
:: There is a patch available for German Annex-B 7050's
:: to make them Annex-A (and still in German language).
:: Many people use it this way outside of Germany when
:: they buy one from eBay.
BE CAREFUL!
A different patching way is needed to patch fritz box fon 7050
which works with AVM latest german firmware (xx.xx.31).
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| John Miller 2007-05-15, 7:11 am |
| > BE CAREFUL!
> A different patching way is needed to patch fritz box fon 7050
> which works with AVM latest german firmware (xx.xx.31).
I thought there was no patch available yet for firmware 14.04.30 and
14.04.31 to annex A? Can you please give me a link for that?
The only way I know to get a German 14.04.30 or 14.04.31 to work with Annex
A is to downgrade it to 14.04.26, and then apply the Annex-A patch.
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| John Miller (johnmiller@nospamplease.com) ha scritto:
:: The only way I know to get a German 14.04.30 or 14.04.31
:: to work with Annex A is to downgrade it to 14.04.26, and
:: then apply the Annex-A patch.
Of course, you can downgrade the latest firmware to a
previous one (e.g. 14.04.31 to 14.04.26) but the way to do that
is quite difficult and dangerous because you have to move the
fritzbox bootloader between two different memory blocks.
If you make any mistakes during those steps, then you could
only get a technological-well-designed ornament for your
living room ;-)
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| John Miller 2007-05-15, 1:11 pm |
| > If you make any mistakes during those steps, then you could
> only get a technological-well-designed ornament for your
> living room ;-)
Luckely after the downgrade I was still able to use it in the way it was
originaly meant :-)
But you didn't reply to my question: can you please tell me how you did what
you wrote here:
[vbcol=seagreen]
Thanks.
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| John Miller (johnmiller@nospamplease.com) ha scritto:
:: But you didn't reply to my question: can you please tell me
:: how you did what you wrote here:
:::: A different patching way is needed to patch fritz box fon 7050
:::: which works with AVM latest german firmware (xx.xx.31).
The answer was in my previous message.
You should have to move the fritzbox bootloader between two
different memory blocks.
Don't you know how? Write me an email: saintofsky@gmail.com
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