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Author WAS installation and embedded messaging

2005-05-26, 6:08 pm

Hi,

Do we Need to install embedded messaging even if we are not using JMS in our application? We don't have WebSphere MQ either.

Does WAS use JMS for it's internal operations/messageing and that would require us to have either embedded messaging or WebSphere MQ installed ?

Thanks,
testweb
Roman

2005-05-27, 2:49 am

Why do you ask?
I believe embedded messaging gets installed under the covers - you have no
choice.
No, I do not think WAS uses it under the covers for its own purposes.


<pingle@biometricaccess.com> wrote in message
news:1194826879.1117123827900.JavaMail.wassrvr@ltsgwas007.sby.ibm.com...
> Hi,
>
> Do we Need to install embedded messaging even if we are not using JMS in
> our application? We don't have WebSphere MQ either.
>
> Does WAS use JMS for it's internal operations/messageing and that would
> require us to have either embedded messaging or WebSphere MQ installed ?
>
> Thanks,
> testweb



2005-05-27, 7:58 am

you definitly have a choice of Not installing embedded messaging or installing it at later times (at least that's what I gathered from IBM's installation guides for WAS 5.1 ).

I was just wondering if WAS uses that under the covers for it's own operations - which you don't think it does.

So accordingly, I should be ok not installing embedded messaging or websphere mq.
Thanks,

testweb

> Why do you ask?
> I believe embedded messaging gets installed under the
> covers - you have no
> choice.
> No, I do not think WAS uses it under the covers for
> its own purposes.
>
>
> <pingle@biometricaccess.com> wrote in message
> news:1194826879.1117123827900.JavaMail.wassrvr@ltsgwas
> 007.sby.ibm.com...
> are not using JMS in
> operations/messageing and that would
> WebSphere MQ installed ?
>
>



Paul Ilechko

2005-05-27, 7:58 am

pingle@biometricaccess.com wrote:
> you definitly have a choice of Not installing embedded messaging or installing it at later times (at least that's what I gathered from IBM's installation guides for WAS 5.1 ).
>
> I was just wondering if WAS uses that under the covers for it's own operations - which you don't think it does.
>
> So accordingly, I should be ok not installing embedded messaging or websphere mq.
> Thanks,


you weren't clear what version of WAS you were talking about. Also,
embedded messaging and WAS MQ are two different things. In was 5.x,
embedded messaging is a cut-down version of WAS MQ. In WAS 6 it's the SI
Bus, which is a completely different messaging system that runs in the JVM.

2005-05-27, 7:58 am

I understand that embedded messaging and WAS MQ are 2 different where prior one is a stripped down version of later one (at least in WAS 5.1).
I wanted to know wheather I need to have either of them in order for WAS to run smoothly - making sue that WAS doesn't need either of those pieces for it's internal operations. So I should be ok without both of them if I am not using JMS in any form and I
can install those pieces later if I need that support.
Thanks for pointing it out.
testweb.
> you weren't clear what version of WAS you were
> talking about. Also,
> embedded messaging and WAS MQ are two different
> things. In was 5.x,
> embedded messaging is a cut-down version of WAS MQ.
> In WAS 6 it's the SI
> Bus, which is a completely different messaging system
> that runs in the JVM.
>



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