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Mike Mestnik

2004-02-17, 8:34 am

I was running the new filelight program and found something vary wrong
with my local disk usage. I wanted to post about it on a debian list, I
guess this is the place.

cheako@overrun:~$ du -sh /usr/share/locale/
103M /usr/share/locale

On my sparc it's 80MB, that's a whole hard drive if you ask me and 80MB
hard drive! Most of these files I will NOT EVER USE. I was wondering if
I can just rm them or if there will be a debian pkg|debconf for cleaning
this up?

Space is tight on my spac (2GB) so this is a big deal. Can I make a
pkg(s) that deals with this, not being a debian developer?

Also how did menu(the package) eventually deal with previously installed
programs not installing many items? It seams that later adding another
*'locale package' would need the same fix.

* Coined the phrase.

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Paul Seelig

2004-02-17, 11:33 am

Hi Mike!

cheako911@yahoo.com (Mike Mestnik) writes:

> On my sparc it's 80MB, that's a whole hard drive if you ask me and 80MB
> hard drive! Most of these files I will NOT EVER USE. I was wondering if
> I can just rm them or if there will be a debian pkg|debconf for cleaning
> this up?
>

I developed the package localepurge for almost the same reason a few
years ago and with further input by other users it has become quite
useful. This should partly do the trick for you although there are
still other space consuming unnecessary files (e.g. KDE and GNOME
localized help files) left over which should be taken care of by
someone. Here's the package description:

---------- snip -------------
Package: localepurge
Version: 0.0.59
Priority: optional
Section: admin
Maintainer: Paul Seelig <pseelig@debian.org>
Depends: dpkg (>= 1.9.7), debconf (>= 0.5.00), debianutils (>= 1.6)
Conflicts: apt-localepurge
Replaces: apt-localepurge
Architecture: all
Filename: ./localepurge_0.0.59_all.deb
Size: 24258
Installed-Size: 64
MD5sum: c09aa99467ba42332a39b447fd9332a7
Description: Automagically removing unnecessary locale data
This is just a simple script to recover diskspace wasted for unneeded
locale files and localized man pages. It will automagically be invoked
upon completion of any apt installation run.
Paul Seelig

2004-02-21, 9:33 am

tillea@rki.de (Andreas Tille) writes:

[ KDE and GNOME localized help files ]
>
> It would be really great if someone would go for it and would
> care for removing localized help files.
>

Yes, but it should be taken care of by someone other than me and
probably as part of another package then localepurge. Or how about
someone doing a fork of localepurge?


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Paul Seelig

2004-02-24, 12:33 am

tillea@rki.de (Andreas Tille) writes:

> On Sat, 21 Feb 2004, Paul Seelig wrote:
>
>
> Uhm, any reason you asking for a fork? Are there technical problems which
> let you refuse patches
>

As it currently stands, localepurge works quite good and doesn't seem
to contain any real problems zones. So i'd rather like to freeze it's
current stable state than accept any new code for it.

Adding the possibility to delete KDE/GNOME localized help files would
mean to have to learn about KDE/GNOME stuff like scrollkeeper even if
i would only to have to include patches. I don't like the idea of
integrating patches containing code i don't understand and i don't
want to have to understand code for stuff i personally don't want to
bother about. So why wouldn't someone else more dedicated than i am
regarding KDE/GNOME create a similar package like localepurge
exclusively for removing KDE/GNOME localized help files?

Another thing is that i'm not very comfortable with the idea of
institutionalizing localepurge even more. As i already wrote in the
package's description files, localepurge should become obsolete as
soon as dpkg/apt permit partial package installations.

> or do you have just time constraints?
>

Being currently jobless, i have severe money constraints. Anybody have
a job to offer (sysadmin and LaTeX preferred) for me in the Rhein/Main
region (i'm living in Mainz) of Germany so i could pay my next rent?


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