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Zenaan Harkness

2004-02-28, 8:33 pm

How is the Debian logo so different from "front cover texts"?

Why is documentation not different from software?

What about philosophical documentation?

What about our social contract, our developer guidelines, etc?
- Are they free software?
- Are they free documentation?
- Are they free for others to modify and distribute?
- And are they distributed in Debian "main"?

Must all documentation be considered software?

Must all documentation be DFSG-free?

What about licenses as documentation of themselves?

Currently we have the Debian Social Contract as the high strata of
principle upon which Debian is built.

There is apparent disagreement about interpreting that social contract.
Some people came into Debian and interpreted it in a particular way.

Is it worthwhile to lay some principles on the line - putting them into
documentation ("Free"? , like a bill of rights or something?

Eg:
- software and documentation are different
- people should have the freedoms (modify, distr., etc) with software

Should all documentation be modifiable?

If there is some for which we can answer "not", is there some example of
such non-modifiable (yet distributable) documentation, that it makes
moral sense to distribute?

How do the US bill of rights and constitution compare in this regard
(I'm an Australian so I don't know sorry)?

Sincerely
Zenaan

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Frank Lichtenheld

2004-02-28, 8:33 pm

On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 11:34:59AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> How is the Debian logo so different from "front cover texts"?


Because it is not distributed in Debian 'main' ? Because I can not think
of any occurence where it would hurt to just replace it with another
logo? Because it is a god damn logo?

> Why is documentation not different from software?


Why _is_ it different then software?
I tried to discuss this at the LDP mailing list before, but
I got no satisfying answers. Why do some documentation authors who
write their documentation about and with Free Software think that
_their_ work is so much better, sacred, whatever, than the software they
use? I would really be glad to see one good answer to this...

> What about philosophical documentation?


Yeah, why is it different?

> What about our social contract, our developer guidelines, etc?
> - Are they free software?
> - Are they free documentation?
> - Are they free for others to modify and distribute?
> - And are they distributed in Debian "main"?


These are the only questions I found mildly interesting.
Go and check it.

And what has this to do with -devel? Go to -legal, -doc or -project.

[Sorry for any offenses, in a bad mood today]

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Andreas Barth

2004-02-29, 3:34 am

Hi,

* Zenaan Harkness (zen@freedbms.net) [040229 01:55]:
> [...]


all your questions are answered in multiple long threads in
debian-legal about GFDL. Please read that.
(Subjects: "draft GFDL position statement?", "A possible GFDL
compromise" back in September 03)



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Tollef Fog Heen

2004-02-29, 3:34 am

* Zenaan Harkness

[snip legal questions]

How does those questions pertain to the technical side of Debian
development? I suggest you ask the questions on debian-legal
instead.

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