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my Sarge experiences

Philipp Strack

2004-04-28, 1:34 pm

Hi everybody,

I just installed Sarge using the CD's with the new Debian installer and
I wanted to share the problems i experienced
(I am no linux geek so probably most of them are my fault)

Installer crashes when I try to Install on a harddisk formated with
reiser fs

checking th CDS using the installer doesn't work

Gnome is on the first CD but XFree is not why?

hotplug doesn't work with alsa it always loads the oss driver which
conflicts with the alsa one

couldn't get ipppd working with Kernel 2.6

ppp is installed by default but isdnutils is not why?

ipppd is really difficult to configure

it was unclear whether I should use ipppd or pppdcapiplugin to connect
to the Internet

there is no script in if-up.d/ which automatically updates my
/etc/resolv.conf after I connected to my ISP so i had to create on
manually

If there is no search line in /etc/resolv.conf gnome did not start.I
dont no why. I found the tip searching the internet
(It took me two days figuring out why gnome didnt start)

I post this because i think there are probably other users experiencing
the same problems. Finally I got everything working. Thank you very much
for one of the best Operating Systems

Philipp Strack

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Simon MARTIN

2004-04-28, 6:34 pm

Hi,

although I'm not a DD, I want to ask you to report the bugs via the
Debian [1]BTS. The best way of doing so mailing your experiences to
debian-installer@bugs.debian.org . Reporting each bug in one mail is
preferred, as it is easier for the maintainers to handle them.
You might want to send the problems, which are not really bugs and can
be solved by yourself, to debian-user@lists.debian.org, as it is more
possible that other users, who have the same problems, read them there.

Kind regards,
Simon

[1] http://bugs.debian.org

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 18:41:11 +0200
Philipp Strack <Philipp.Strack@gmx.de> wrote:

> Hi everybody,
>
>
> I just installed Sarge using the CD's with the new Debian installer
> and I wanted to share the problems i experienced
> (I am no linux geek so probably most of them are my fault)
>
> Installer crashes when I try to Install on a harddisk formated with
> reiser fs
>
> checking th CDS using the installer doesn't work
>
> Gnome is on the first CD but XFree is not why?
>
> hotplug doesn't work with alsa it always loads the oss driver which
> conflicts with the alsa one
>
> couldn't get ipppd working with Kernel 2.6
>
> ppp is installed by default but isdnutils is not why?
>
> ipppd is really difficult to configure
>
> it was unclear whether I should use ipppd or pppdcapiplugin to connect
> to the Internet
>
> there is no script in if-up.d/ which automatically updates my
> /etc/resolv.conf after I connected to my ISP so i had to create on
> manually
>
> If there is no search line in /etc/resolv.conf gnome did not start.I
> dont no why. I found the tip searching the internet
> (It took me two days figuring out why gnome didnt start)
>
> I post this because i think there are probably other users
> experiencing the same problems. Finally I got everything working.
> Thank you very much for one of the best Operating Systems
>
> Philipp Strack
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Colin Watson

2004-04-28, 10:33 pm

On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 10:59:59PM +0200, Simon MARTIN wrote:
> Hi,
>
> although I'm not a DD, I want to ask you to report the bugs via the
> Debian [1]BTS. The best way of doing so mailing your experiences to
> debian-installer@bugs.debian.org .

There's no such address. You need to mail submit@bugs.debian.org and put
"Package: debian-installer" at the top (or probably "Package:
installation-reports" instead, and see the template on the
debian-installer web site).

See http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting for more details.

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Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder

2004-04-29, 3:34 am

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On Wednesday 28 April 2004 18.41, Philipp Strack wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
>
> I just installed Sarge using the CD's with the new Debian installer
> and I wanted to share the problems i experienced
> (I am no linux geek so probably most of them are my fault)

Your fault or not, if you couldn't work it out on your own, it's=20
Debian's fault. :-)

Now, nobody has a working crystal ball, so it is important that you=20
provide as much information as you can for your reports to be helpful.=20
Your comments are a bit terse in many places.

Also, I agree with Simon that the 'one probelm in one email (or bug=20
report)' approach is the way to go for unrelated problems.

> Installer crashes when I try to Install on a harddisk formated with
> reiser fs

crashes at which step?

>
> checking th CDS using the installer doesn't work

Doesn't work how? What exactly were you doing, and what was the output?

> Gnome is on the first CD but XFree is not why?

This one is clear enough.

> hotplug doesn't work with alsa it always loads the oss driver which
> conflicts with the alsa one

IIRC this is known and was being discussed somewhere.

> couldn't get ipppd working with Kernel 2.6

Again, you're a bit too terse here.

> ppp is installed by default but isdnutils is not why?

I guess the thought is that PPP is frequently used over ADSL now, with=20
PPP over plain ISDN already disappearing.

> ipppd is really difficult to configure
>
> it was unclear whether I should use ipppd or pppdcapiplugin to
> connect to the Internet

Again, I guess a longer description of the problems you run into would=20
help.

> there is no script in if-up.d/ which automatically updates my
> /etc/resolv.conf after I connected to my ISP so i had to create on
> manually

Hmmm. There is the resolvconf package, but it is very new (and=20
apparently isn't installed by default yet?) In other words, this is=20
being addressed.

(OTOH, doesn't pppd update resolv.conf when properly configured, even=20
without the resolvconf package being installed?)

> If there is no search line in /etc/resolv.conf gnome did not start.I
> dont no why. I found the tip searching the internet
> (It took me two days figuring out why gnome didnt start)

I guess this is something you can file a bug about, probably on the=20
gnome-session package.

To file bugs: use the 'reportbug' program (in the package with the same=20
name), but be friendly and search on http://bugs.debian.org if somebody=20
reported the same bug before.

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Andreas Rottmann

2004-04-30, 3:33 pm

Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder <avbidder@fortytwo.ch> writes:

> To file bugs: use the 'reportbug' program (in the package with the same
> name), but be friendly and search on http://bugs.debian.org if somebody
> reported the same bug before.
>
reportbug already loads the bugs down for you.

Andy
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