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AMD64 for sarge [Re: <rant> Package: ftpmasters, Severity: serious, ...]
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| Josselin Mouette 2004-07-09, 11:51 am |
| Martin,
you still haven't spoken a word about the absence of reaction of the FTP
masters regarding the inclusion of AMD64. From an external point of
view, this architecture looks more ready than some architectures we
intend to release (e.g. there isn't event an available image for s390).
Will we need another GR to release with AMD64 because of the inaction of
a small group of people?
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| Josselin Mouette 2004-07-09, 11:51 am |
| Le mer, 07/07/2004 à 10:35 -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz a écrit :
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> The rest of the universe appears to disagree with the Debian AMD64
> porters on this issue, including existing Linux distributions and
> commercial Unices.
The rest of the universe made a move towards lib64 while already
existing setups (namely Debian ia64) didn't use it.
> The whole time you've been discussing this I've been wondering how you
> can make a value judgement with such limited view. There's a lot of
> benefit to doing it the way other people do. Has it actually been
> discussed with any other distributors or any standards body?
Did the other distributors discuss with us before starting with the
lib64 idea?
On a more practical note, lib64 being a symlink doesn't affect all
programs that don't set a RPATH. Thus we can support quite a large
subset of existing ia32 software, without claiming LSB compliance for
ia32, which you can easily achieve anyway by installing a i386
distribution (or a chroot).
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| Scott James Remnant 2004-07-11, 2:49 am |
| On Fri, 2004-07-09 at 21:54 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org> writes:
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> Commited to cvs?
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Goswin, http://cvs.debian.org/;
http://cvs.debian.org/, Goswin von Brederlow.
Please introduce yourselves.
Scott
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| Goswin von Brederlow 2004-07-13, 2:50 am |
| Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@gwolf.cx> writes:
> Goswin von Brederlow dijo [Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 06:58:00PM +0200]:
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> ...Although, once again, this is not true of AMD64, as there _is_
> point in recompiling everything, as the processor runs better in 64
> bit mode than in 32 bit mode. And there is still (news, news!!) a huge
> i386 installed user base, so we cannot drop support for it. The only
> option, IMHO, is to have both architectures as independent, maybe just
> somehow linked in the future... But every package will have to be
> compiled for both.
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> Greetings,
Sure. But multiarch is way past sarge anyway.
MfG
Goswin
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