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[PMBF] menu icons _must_ be in xpm.
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| Bill Allombert 2004-07-30, 5:52 pm |
| (For those who are wondering PMBF stand for "Potential mass bug filling")
Hello developers,
Menu manual mandate that menu entries icons _must_ be in xpm. This
is necessary to accommodate window-managers that do not support any other
images formats. A better solution could be implemented but that will
not be done for Sarge obviously.
The following packages' menu entries mention an icon in PNG or GIF
format. This is a bug, and recent lintian output an error. Please fix
your packages.
Here the list of affected packages:
bzflag: icon="/usr/share/bzflag/menu_arrow.png"\
calctool: icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/gcalctool.png"
diasce: icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/diasce/david_icon.png
eog: icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-eog.png"
etherape: icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/etherape.png"
everybuddy: icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/ebicon.png"
evolution: icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/evolution.png
file-roller: icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/file-roller.png"
gabber: icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/gabber.png" \
gcalctool: icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/gcalctool.png"
gdesklets: icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/gdesklets.png" \
giftui: icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/giftui.png"
gimp: icon="/usr/share/gimp/2.0/images/wilber-icon.png"
gimp1.3: icon="/usr/share/gimp/1.3/images/wilber-icon.png"
gnobog: icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/gnobog.png"
gnome-gv: icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-ghostview.png"
gnomeicu: icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-gnomeicu.png"
gnomemeeting: icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/gnomemeeting-logo-icon.png"
gnome-network: icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-netinfo.png"
gnome-network: icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-remote-desktop.png"
gnome-network: icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-remote-shell.png"
gnomesword: icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/gnomesword/gs2-48x48.png"
gnome-system-tools: icon="/usr/share/gnome-system-tools/pixmaps/time.png"
gnome-system-tools: icon="/usr/share/gnome-system-tools/pixmaps/network.png"
gnome-system-tools: icon="/usr/share/gnome-system-tools/pixmaps/boot.png"
gnome-system-tools: icon="/usr/share/gnome-system-tools/pixmaps/runlevel.png"
gnome-system-tools: icon="/usr/share/gnome-system-tools/pixmaps/users.png"
gnucash: icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/gnucash/gnucash-icon.png"
gpe-edit: icon=gpe-edit.png
gtkam: icon="/usr/share/images/gtkam/gtkam-camera.png"
gtop: icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-gtop.png"
hardinfo: icon=/usr/share/hardinfo/pixmaps/logo.png
jack-rack: icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/jack-rack-icon.png"
kdevelop3: icon="/usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/kdevelop3.png"\
monodevelop: icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/monodevelop.png"
monodoc-browser:icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/monodoc.png"
monodoc-http: icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/monodoc.png"
monster-masher: icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/monster-masher.png \
mozilla-browser: icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/mozilla-navigator.gif
mozilla-browser: icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/mozilla-composer.gif
mozilla-chatzilla: icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/chatzilla.gif
mozilla-mailnews: icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/mozilla-addressbook.gif
mozilla-mailnews: icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/mozilla-mailnews.gif
mozilla-mailnews: icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/mozilla-mailnews.gif
netdude: icon="/usr/share/netdude/pixmaps/netdude-icon.png"
rhythmbox: icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/rhythmbox.png"
seahorse: icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/seahorse.png"
terminatorx: icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/terminatorX-app.png"
totem: icon="/usr/share/totem/media-player-48.png"\
totem-gstreamer:icon="/usr/share/totem/media-player-48.png"\
totem-xine: icon="/usr/share/totem/media-player-48.png"\
By maintainer:
Andrew Lau <netsnipe@users.sourceforge.net> gnome-network
Ari Pollak <ari@debian.org> gimp
Christian Hammers <ch@debian.org> gnome-gv
Daniel Glassey <wdg@debian.org> gnomesword
Davide Puricelli (evo) <evo@debian.org> eog
Debian GNOME Maintainers <pkg-gnome-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org> rhythmbox
Debian Mono Group <pkg-mono-group@lists.alioth.debian.org> monodoc-browser
Debian Mono Group <pkg-mono-group@lists.alioth.debian.org> monodoc-http
Frederic Peters <fpeters@debian.org> etherape
Guenter Geiger <geiger@debian.org> jack-rack
James A. Treacy <treacy@debian.org> gnucash
Jan-Hendrik Palic <jan.palic@linux-debian.de> gnobog
Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo <jsogo@debian.org> diasce
Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo <jsogo@debian.org> gnomemeeting
Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo <jsogo@debian.org> gnome-system-tools
Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo <jsogo@debian.org> seahorse
Julien Delange <julien@gunnm.org> giftui
Leandro Pereira <leandro@linuxmag.com.br> hardinfo
Mike Furr <mfurr@debian.org> terminatorx
Noel Koethe <noel@debian.org> netdude
Norbert Veber <nveber@debian.org> gabber
Norman Jordan <njordan@debian.org> kdevelop3
Phil Blundell <pb@debian.org> gpe-edit
Sebastien Bacher <seb128@debian.org> calctool
Sebastien Bacher <seb128@debian.org> file-roller
Sebastien Bacher <seb128@debian.org> gcalctool
Sebastien Bacher <seb128@debian.org> gdesklets
Sebastien Bacher <seb128@debian.org> gnomeicu
Sebastien Bacher <seb128@debian.org> totem
Sven Luther <luther@debian.org> monster-masher
Takuo KITAME <kitame@debian.org> evolution
Takuo KITAME <kitame@debian.org> gtkam
Takuo KITAME <kitame@debian.org> mozilla-browser
Takuo KITAME <kitame@debian.org> mozilla-chatzilla
Takuo KITAME <kitame@debian.org> mozilla-mailnews
Tim Riker <Tim@Rikers.org> bzflag
Thanks in advance,
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| Sebastien Bacher 2004-07-30, 5:52 pm |
| Le vendredi 30 juillet 2004 =E0 23:26 +0200, Bill Allombert a =E9crit :
> (For those who are wondering PMBF stand for "Potential mass bug filling")
>=20
> Hello developers,
>=20
> Menu manual mandate that menu entries icons _must_ be in xpm.=20
Hi,
I'm just curious, but which window managers doesn't handle the png icons
but the xpm one ?=20
Cheers,
Sebastien Bacher
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| Frank Lichtenheld 2004-07-30, 8:47 pm |
| On Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 11:45:41PM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> Le vendredi 30 juillet 2004 à 23:26 +0200, Bill Allombert a écrit :
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm just curious, but which window managers doesn't handle the png icons
> but the xpm one ?
One example (Unless this has changed in 2.5): fvwm
Gruesse,
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| Marco d'Itri 2004-07-31, 7:49 am |
| On Jul 31, Frank Lichtenheld <djpig@debian.org> wrote:
> One example (Unless this has changed in 2.5): fvwm
My fvwm menu definitely uses PNG icons.
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| Bill Allombert 2004-07-31, 7:49 am |
| On Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 11:45:41PM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> Le vendredi 30 juillet 2004 à 23:26 +0200, Bill Allombert a écrit :
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm just curious, but which window managers doesn't handle the png icons
> but the xpm one ?
At least fvwm95 does not support PNG but handle XPM. A larger number do
not support GIF. There are around 50 window managers in Debian today,
but most of them do not display menu icons.
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| Sebastien Bacher 2004-07-31, 7:49 am |
| Le samedi 31 juillet 2004 =E0 12:06 +0200, Bill Allombert a =E9crit :
> There are around 50 window managers in Debian today,
> but most of them do not display menu icons.
Yes, that's why I ask. I've made some tests and I've not found a window
manager supporting menu icons and not the PNG entries (apparently fvwm
does but fvwm95 not, I've not checked)... most of the packages provide a
PNG pixmap and I don't really get the point the convert them to a XPM if
there is no real problem with the PNG. Perhaps the policy should be
adapted here ?
Cheers,
Sebastien Bacher
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| Bill Allombert 2004-08-01, 5:50 pm |
| On Sat, Jul 31, 2004 at 12:18:01PM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> Le samedi 31 juillet 2004 à 12:06 +0200, Bill Allombert a écrit :
>
>
> Yes, that's why I ask. I've made some tests and I've not found a window
> manager supporting menu icons and not the PNG entries (apparently fvwm
> does but fvwm95 not, I've not checked)... most of the packages provide a
> PNG pixmap and I don't really get the point the convert them to a XPM if
Usually you need to rescale them to match the 32x32 limit for menu
icons, and you can put the XPM in the diff without uuencoding it.
> there is no real problem with the PNG. Perhaps the policy should be
> adapted here ?
The way icons are handled could be improved, several proposals have been
made, see debian-policy mailing list archive. The fact that current fvwm
handle PNG should be taken into account. However that will not be done
until sarge release, if for no better reason that it breaks partial
upgrade. For example you want to stick with woody fvwm because fvwm
configuration has changed and breaks your own made .fvwm dir.
More generally, care has to be excerced before restricting the set of
window-managers handled by menu.
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| Steve Greenland 2004-08-01, 8:47 pm |
| On 01-Aug-04, 10:11 (CDT), Bill Allombert <allomber@math.u-bordeaux.fr> wrote:
> More generally, care has to be excerced before restricting the set of
> window-managers handled by menu.
What is the failure mode for WMs that don't support PNG for menu icons?
Does it just not show up in the menu? If so, that doesn't strike me as a
big deal.
Steve
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| Bill Allombert 2004-08-02, 7:49 am |
| On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 02:10:17PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
> On 01-Aug-04, 10:11 (CDT), Bill Allombert <allomber@math.u-bordeaux.fr> wrote:
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> What is the failure mode for WMs that don't support PNG for menu icons?
> Does it just not show up in the menu? If so, that doesn't strike me as a
Given that menu make no assumption about WM, the failure mode is
'undefined behaviour'. YMMV.
Cheers,
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