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ITP: preview -- General purpose image viewer for GNUstep
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| Gürkan Sengün 2004-08-06, 7:51 am |
| Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
* Package name : preview
Version : 0.6
Upstream Author : Fabien Vallon <fabien@tuxfamily.org>
* URL :
http://mac.wms-network.de/gnustep/i...ew/preview.html
* License : GPL
Description : General purpose image viewer for GNUstep
Preview is an application that can be used to display images. It is
designed to be easy to use and will support all GNUstep features
(images
design support, pasteboard/services, printint and layout...). It
tries to
follow the NeXTSTEP spirit.
it's here if you want to test it:
http://www.linuks.mine.nu/i_debian/preview/
it has .app in the binary package name
-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Architecture: powerpc
Kernel: Linux ibook 2.4.23-ben1 #7 Sat Dec 27 11:20:38 CET 2003 ppc
Locale: LANG=POSIX, LC_CTYPE=POSIX
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| Gürkan Sengün 2004-08-06, 7:51 am |
| > Obligatory objection: too short and too generic package name.=20
I agree. The binary package name is preview.app is that still too worse?=
I think this was discussed more than once and people agreed to it.
> Does it
> become a rule for GNUstep applications?
Become? It has never been different afaik
Can you suggest better names? If so, do it on either the gnustep
mailinglists or #gnustep on irc.gnu.org (yes that's freenode)
G=FCrkan.
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| Eduard Bloch 2004-08-06, 7:51 am |
| #include <hallo.h>
* Gürkan Sengün [Fri, Aug 06 2004, 09:09:17AM]:
> I agree. The binary package name is preview.app is that still too worse?
preview.app is better. Or call the package gnustep-preview. Or whatever.
This is Debian, a universal operating system and not a free playground
for GNUstep and only GNUstep.
> I think this was discussed more than once and people agreed to it.
Discussed where? See discussions _here_ about the "terminal" package (and
another one... what was, "mixer"? Or "player"?) "people agreed" does not
mean anything (quoting a fellow developer: For any stupid thing chosen
at random, you'll find at least 5 people on the Internet who thinks it's
a good idea.)
Regards,
Eduard.
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| Sam Hocevar 2004-08-06, 7:51 am |
| On Fri, Aug 06, 2004, Eduard Bloch wrote:
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> Discussed where? See discussions _here_ about the "terminal" package (and
> another one... what was, "mixer"? Or "player"?) "people agreed" does not
> mean anything
See the original ITP, including the part you did not quote  It
states that the binary package name has .app appended.
Cheers,
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| William Ballard 2004-08-06, 7:51 am |
| On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 11:24:20AM +0200, Sam Hocevar wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 06, 2004, Eduard Bloch wrote:
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> See the original ITP, including the part you did not quote It
> states that the binary package name has .app appended.
I respect GNUStep packagers for making an effort, but really ".app" is
itself a generic name. It certainly violates the spirit of "make it
unique" -- combining two generic terms does not produce a unique term.
Both are ordinary dictionary words.
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| Russ Allbery 2004-08-06, 7:51 am |
| William Ballard <40711.nospam@comcast.net> writes:
> I respect GNUStep packagers for making an effort, but really ".app" is
> itself a generic name. It certainly violates the spirit of "make it
> unique" -- combining two generic terms does not produce a unique term.
> Both are ordinary dictionary words.
The word "app" in isolation is common. The construction <function>.app
is, in my experience, used exclusively by GNUstep and related
NeXTSTEP-inspired applications and is quite specific. As long as GNUstep
is also mentioned explicitly in the package definition, I have a hard time
seeing how a .app package name is either going to confuse users or
conflict with any other non-GNUstep package.
And I'm even one of the people who really doesn't care to ever install a
GNUstep application.
Between this ongoing naming debate and the ton of RC FHS bugs that are
sitting in the bug tracking system, I have to say that from the
perspective of an observer outside of these various arguments, it seems
like GNUstep applications have enough domain-specific controversial issues
that it would be nice to have a GNUstep policy document. If all of these
disputes could get hashed out once and a single consistent solution
documented and recommended, it might save frustration down the road.
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| William Ballard 2004-08-06, 7:51 am |
| On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 03:24:46AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> NeXTSTEP-inspired applications and is quite specific. As long as GNUstep
> is also mentioned explicitly in the package definition, I have a hard time
> seeing how a .app package name is either going to confuse users or
> conflict with any other non-GNUstep package.
Yeah, I'm okay with it too. I'm just saying -- we all know GNUStep
kinda broke the spirit of the rule. KDE, Gnome, WindowMaker all used
non-dictionary things, GNUStep didn't. Kinda slimey. That's the
elephant in the room.
But, like I said, if they stick to .app then we can all get along. But
nobody else should be so cheeky.
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