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John Hasler

2004-08-08, 7:59 am

William Ballard writes:
> GnuCash is the best of the lot, but that isn't saying very much.


I consider SQL-Ledger superior, but that isn't saying much either. There
is a new Alioth project called Advacs to produce an accounting system
suitable for small business. It will not be a Quickbooks clone. There
isn't much there yet, but I hope to soon put up a tentative rationale and
maybe some code from a toy system I wrote years ago. Please join and help.
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John Hasler
john@dhh.gt.org (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI


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William Ballard

2004-08-08, 7:59 am

On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 07:59:50AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> William Ballard writes:
>
> I consider SQL-Ledger superior, but that isn't saying much either. There
> is a new Alioth project called Advacs to produce an accounting system
> suitable for small business. It will not be a Quickbooks clone. There
> isn't much there yet, but I hope to soon put up a tentative rationale and
> maybe some code from a toy system I wrote years ago. Please join and help.


For my personal finances I use the tool I wrote
http://sourceforge.net/projects/pim-tb to display and enter data
according to some schema, and then use xsltproc and PERL to do
interesting things with the resulting XML.

I didn't like how the U/Is of in particular GNUCash felt; and I felt
stifled by their schemas: my tool works with any relational schema and
lets me bop around and look at and manipulate small sets of data.

It starts very fast, so I can whap it open and slap in some stuff, and
get out.

For instance I can download statements from the bank and use PERL and
xsltproc to massage them into a schema the tool can display.


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William Ballard

2004-08-08, 7:59 am

On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 03:14:10PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> [John Hasler]
>
> Thank you, as one of the sql-ledger maintainers.
>
>
> It would be interesting if there were a scanner and OCR system
> connected to it, for document storage (think invoices) and retrieval.
>
> One would scan all incoming mail, detect invoices and run OCR on them
> to locate vendor and amount, and make the transaction available for
> the accountant for assigning of the right account and approval of the
> right people. If it in addition could connect semi-automatically to
> the electronic bank to schedule the payment, it would save me a lot of
> work.
>
> SQL-Ledger is not quite there yet.


I'm doing this. I have some bash scripts which call xsane and I just
scan in stacks of bills, statements, receipts as files 0000.png,
0001.png, &c. I've written but not yet released a GTK app which allows
me to quickly rename and move the files to a form such as:

/x/p/d4/PGE/40810/01.png
/x/p/d4/Bank/Slips/Cash/40801-McDonalds.png
&c.

As I previously mentioned, I use my released tool
http://sourceforge.net/projects/pim-tb
to display downloaded bank statements. A feature I plan to add is the
ability to link a filename to the transaction, but that's a lot of
unecessary work, since using my directory schema I can pretty quickly
find a document.

I think people tend to over-construct such systems; you end more being a
user of the system than a manager of your own data. I get a lot more
done with my little hackish things and bits of PERL glue.

In particular I hate organizing my schemas according to someone else's
tastes. My schemas suit me perfectly; but you'd hate them!


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Petter Reinholdtsen

2004-08-08, 7:59 am

[John Hasler]
> I consider SQL-Ledger superior, but that isn't saying much either.


Thank you, as one of the sql-ledger maintainers.

> There is a new Alioth project called Advacs to produce an accounting
> system suitable for small business. It will not be a Quickbooks
> clone.


It would be interesting if there were a scanner and OCR system
connected to it, for document storage (think invoices) and retrieval.

One would scan all incoming mail, detect invoices and run OCR on them
to locate vendor and amount, and make the transaction available for
the accountant for assigning of the right account and approval of the
right people. If it in addition could connect semi-automatically to
the electronic bank to schedule the payment, it would save me a lot of
work.

SQL-Ledger is not quite there yet.


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Allan Wind

2004-08-08, 5:51 pm

On 2004-08-08T07:59:50-0500, John Hasler wrote:
> There > is a new Alioth project called Advacs to produce an accounting
> system suitable for small business.


How is GNU Enterprise (http://www.gnuenterprise.org/) doing these days?


/Allan

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