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Author Re: Release update: base and standard frozen
Wouter Verhelst

2004-08-08, 5:51 pm

On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 09:30:33PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> You seem to be talking about the 'section' ordering done by the
> autobuilders.


Yes.

> It is as you say 'more-or-less' build-depend order, but not quite.
> And this could be improved.
>
>
> Perhaps it should. That would be a possible improvement too.


Those two things could indeed be improved, yes. Unfortunately, though,
not without major surgery to wanna-build.

Usually, wanna-build copes just fine; it's just when there are upload
spikes that there are troubles. And believe me, this is a /huge/ upload
spike. No sane measures could have coped with this.

>
> Thanks. I've read it, and notice several of the possible improvements
> I've mentioned are not described there.


Correct.

> So it looks like there _are_ more things the autobuild maintainers can
> try instead to "adding an insane amount of new buildd machines".


I don't believe I said we can't do anything about it. I did say, though,
that there was nothing we could do about it anymore /right now/, except
for a) adding an insane amount of buildd machines, b) starting to do
work on something which /might/ be finished in a few months (and
therefore be too late to help out right now), or c) just sit and wait
until the situation resolves itself.

> And these improvements might even be useful after the release.


Might be, but they'll not be finished before that time. And, really, you
won't find me fiddling with infrastructure as crucial as the central
wanna-build database when a release is near. I don't like to be lynched.

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