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| Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo 2004-08-25, 6:02 pm |
| Hello.
I would like to hear what are the most important changes between woody and
sarge. What do you say if someone ask you "what's new in sarge?" ;)
I know, we've got new, incredible installer.
We've got plenty new packages, and updated versions of old packages.
Most of Debian tools have been improved, and some new tools appeared.
Could someone describe them more verbosely?
What exacly has changed between woody and sarge?
Don't get me wrong. I don't want to start a flamewar or something like that.
Someone asked me question from the subject and I have problems answering
it. I mean using sid on my home box everyday makes many changes invisible
for me, and I don't want to skip anything.
Maybe preparation of the list of new features in sarge would be nice idea.
Maybe such list exists already?
I'll be thankful for every answer. Please advertise sarge ;)
regards
fEnIo
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| Kevin B. McCarty 2004-08-25, 6:02 pm |
| Off the top of my head:
- Gnome 2.6 instead of 1.2, GTK+ 2.4 instead of 1.2, Pango
- Gimp 2 instead of 1.2 (we hope)
- Mozilla 1.6 (1.7?) instead of 1.0
- Firefox and Thunderbird (we hope)
- KDE 3.2 (3.3?) instead of whatever was in woody (not sure, as I don't
use KDE), similarly for Qt
- Linux 2.6
- OpenOffice
- Automatic hardware detection (discover)
- Exim 4 instead of 3
- GCC 3.3 instead of 2.95 / 3.0
- X-"Free"-86 4.3 instead of 4.1
- Frozen Bubble, Enigma, Pathological, and lots of other fun games :-)
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| Isaac Clerencia 2004-08-25, 6:02 pm |
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| Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo 2004-08-25, 6:02 pm |
| On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 06:57:40PM -0400, Kevin B. McCarty wrote:
> Off the top of my head:
>
> - Gnome 2.6 instead of 1.2, GTK+ 2.4 instead of 1.2, Pango
> - Gimp 2 instead of 1.2 (we hope)
> - Mozilla 1.6 (1.7?) instead of 1.0
> - Firefox and Thunderbird (we hope)
> - KDE 3.2 (3.3?) instead of whatever was in woody (not sure, as I don't
> use KDE), similarly for Qt
> - Linux 2.6
> - OpenOffice
> - Automatic hardware detection (discover)
> - Exim 4 instead of 3
> - GCC 3.3 instead of 2.95 / 3.0
> - X-"Free"-86 4.3 instead of 4.1
> - Frozen Bubble, Enigma, Pathological, and lots of other fun games :-)
Thanks for answer. But that wasn't exacly what I was asking for ;)
I know that almost everything is now up-to-date in Debian. I know that it
wasn't easy and needed a lot of work to make it policy compliant.
I would like to focus on Debian native tools which makes users life easier.
Which tasks could be achieved much easier in sarge than woody?
As an example I can say about module-assistant. It's great and makes
modules compilation piece of cake ;)
Any other similar useful additions?
regards
fEnIo
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| Martin Schulze 2004-09-02, 6:55 pm |
| Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote:
> I would like to hear what are the most important changes between woody and
> sarge. What do you say if someone ask you "what's new in sarge?" ;)
>
> I know, we've got new, incredible installer.
> We've got plenty new packages, and updated versions of old packages.
> Most of Debian tools have been improved, and some new tools appeared.
>
> Could someone describe them more verbosely?
> What exacly has changed between woody and sarge?
>
> Don't get me wrong. I don't want to start a flamewar or something like that.
> Someone asked me question from the subject and I have problems answering
> it. I mean using sid on my home box everyday makes many changes invisible
> for me, and I don't want to skip anything.
> Maybe preparation of the list of new features in sarge would be nice idea.
> Maybe such list exists already?
Not that I know of, but I would be interested in it as well.
One very important feature is hardware detection in the installer
and including some X configuration.
Others probably include the Debian-Edu/Skolelinux and debian-med efforts
which boosted the number of educational packages and those with a medical
background.
It it works, another important feature would be a single 2.4 kernel for
all architectures supporting 2.4. There are similar plans for 2.6 iirc.
Regards,
Joey
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| Steinar H. Gunderson 2004-09-02, 6:55 pm |
| On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 01:31:02AM +0200, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote:
> As an example I can say about module-assistant. It's great and makes
> modules compilation piece of cake ;)
> Any other similar useful additions?
pkgsync! (Shameless plug.)
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| Mario Lang 2004-09-02, 6:55 pm |
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