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| Oded Shimon 2004-09-28, 5:57 pm |
| This may not be the best place to ask this, i skimmed a bit in debian.org and
couldn't find this - how would i got about adding a program i made to the
debian apt sites?... do i need to email a debian maintainer, or is it
something like where all the programs on the debian list are purely programs
which maintainers have picked up on their own, and there is no way of
actually submitting a program?
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| Thomas Bushnell BSG 2004-09-28, 5:57 pm |
| Oded Shimon <ods15@ods15.dyndns.org> writes:
> This may not be the best place to ask this, i skimmed a bit in
> debian.org and couldn't find this - how would i got about adding a
> program i made to the debian apt sites?... do i need to email a
> debian maintainer, or is it something like where all the programs on
> the debian list are purely programs which maintainers have picked up
> on their own, and there is no way of actually submitting a program?
If you are a developer, then you just upload it yourself.
If you are not a developer, then you open RFP bug on the wnpp
pseudo-package. In that RFP you can mention the location of the
source code.
Thomas
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| Oded Shimon 2004-09-28, 5:57 pm |
| ok, umm, i appreciatte the reply, but that was kinda... gibrish to me... could
you point me to a site to rtfm? whats rfp etc. ...
what do you mean by developer? debian developer or developer of my
program?....
On Wednesday 29 September 2004 00:22, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Oded Shimon <ods15@ods15.dyndns.org> writes:
>
> If you are a developer, then you just upload it yourself.
>
> If you are not a developer, then you open RFP bug on the wnpp
> pseudo-package. In that RFP you can mention the location of the
> source code.
>
> Thomas
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| Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo 2004-09-28, 5:57 pm |
| On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 03:22:20PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
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> If you are a developer, then you just upload it yourself.
>
> If you are not a developer, then you open RFP bug on the wnpp
> pseudo-package. In that RFP you can mention the location of the
> source code.
Or you can prepare package yourself and ask for sponsor on debian-mentors
mailing list.
regards
fEnIo
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| Kenneth Pronovici 2004-09-28, 5:57 pm |
| On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 12:25:43AM +0200, Oded Shimon wrote:
> ok, umm, i appreciatte the reply, but that was kinda... gibrish to
> me... could you point me to a site to rtfm? whats rfp etc. ... what
> do you mean by developer? debian developer or developer of my
> program?....
Please try to bottom-post your replies. It makes it easier to follow
the conversation.
"RFP" stands for "request for package". You can get more information
here:
http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/
KEN
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| Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo 2004-09-28, 5:57 pm |
| El mié, 29-09-2004 a las 00:25 +0200, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo escribió:
> On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 03:22:20PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
>
> Or you can prepare package yourself and ask for sponsor on debian-mentors
> mailing list.
You can get more info about all this in two places:
http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp
http://www.debian.org/doc/devel-manuals#devref
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| Guilherme de S. Pastore 2004-09-28, 5:57 pm |
| Em Wed, 29 Sep 2004 00:19:55 +0200,
Oded Shimon <ods15@ods15.dyndns.org> escreveu:
> This may not be the best place to ask this, i skimmed a bit in debian.org and
> couldn't find this - how would i got about adding a program i made to the
> debian apt sites?... do i need to email a debian maintainer, or is it
> something like where all the programs on the debian list are purely programs
> which maintainers have picked up on their own, and there is no way of
> actually submitting a program?
You need someone to maintain your program inside Debian, who would be
called the package maintainer. Had you mentioned what program it was,
you could already have one ;)
One thing you can do to ask people to create a package for your program,
get it inside Debian and maintain it, is opening an RFP bug (Request for
Package) against the wnpp pseudo-package. Take a look at
http://bugs.debian.org for information on how to report a bug.
Good luck!
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| Oded Shimon 2004-09-28, 5:57 pm |
| On Wednesday 29 September 2004 00:40, Guilherme de S. Pastore wrote:
> Em Wed, 29 Sep 2004 00:19:55 +0200,
>
> Oded Shimon <ods15@ods15.dyndns.org> escreveu:
>
> You need someone to maintain your program inside Debian, who would be
> called the package maintainer. Had you mentioned what program it was,
> you could already have one ;)
>
> One thing you can do to ask people to create a package for your program,
> get it inside Debian and maintain it, is opening an RFP bug (Request for
> Package) against the wnpp pseudo-package. Take a look at
> http://bugs.debian.org for information on how to report a bug.
>
> Good luck!
>
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> <gpastore@colband.com.br>
ok, i understand now the 'reply to bottom' thing, sorry about that one 
anyway, i already have a package i made with alien from an rpm package someone
made for me. my program is a GUI MEncoder frontend using qt and kdelibs, the
best i've seen so far, without bragging more details at
http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=16439
i am looking for anyone here interested to be my package maintainer (or
whatever it is the next step is.. you'll sort of have to walk me through this
a bit, never actually even fully developed a prog before... :/ )
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| Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo 2004-09-28, 5:57 pm |
| On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 12:47:59AM +0200, Oded Shimon wrote:
>
> ok, i understand now the 'reply to bottom' thing, sorry about that one
>
> anyway, i already have a package i made with alien from an rpm package
> someone made for me. my program is a GUI MEncoder frontend using qt
Making Debian packages with alien from rpm isn't good way. Package has to
be built from sources on Debian's autobuilders.
> and kdelibs, the best i've seen so far, without bragging more details at
>
> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=16439
>
> i am looking for anyone here interested to be my package maintainer (or
> whatever it is the next step is.. you'll sort of have to walk me through this
> a bit, never actually even fully developed a prog before... :/ )
Do you know that Debian doesn't has mplayer in its archives?
regards
fEnIo
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| Oded Shimon 2004-09-28, 5:57 pm |
| On Wednesday 29 September 2004 00:57, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 12:47:59AM +0200, Oded Shimon wrote:
>
> Making Debian packages with alien from rpm isn't good way. Package has to
> be built from sources on Debian's autobuilders.
>
>
> Do you know that Debian doesn't has mplayer in its archives?
>
> regards
> fEnIo
yes i know mplayer and mencoder arent in the debian archives, it'll be a
dependency needed to be met y the user (umm.. he'll install a frontend
without installing the program?.. heh) anyway, now gonna have a nice long
read in
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/d...e/index.en.html
once i'm done with that, i'll get back to here. thankyou for your help, i
really didnt expect this quick a reply cyas
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| Guilherme de S. Pastore 2004-09-28, 5:57 pm |
| Em Wed, 29 Sep 2004 00:47:59 +0200,
Oded Shimon <ods15@ods15.dyndns.org> escreveu:
> anyway, i already have a package i made with alien from an rpm package
> someone made for me.
Apart from having to be built from a Debian source package by the
autobuilders, it needs to be in accordance with the Debian policies, and
alien is definetely not the best way to get policy-compliance.
And also, with regard to another e-mail, I can't understand why you'd
want to read the Developer's Referece, unless you want to maintain the
package yourself (although it's mostly useful for officially registered
Debian Developers).
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| Sven Mueller 2004-09-28, 9:19 pm |
| Oded Shimon [u] wrote on 29/09/2004 01:10:
> yes i know mplayer and mencoder arent in the debian archives, it'll be a
> dependency needed to be met y the user (umm.. he'll install a frontend
> without installing the program?.. heh) anyway, now gonna have a nice long
> read in
> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/d...e/index.en.html
> once i'm done with that, i'll get back to here. thankyou for your help, i
> really didnt expect this quick a reply cyas
You won't get any program into debian as package if it's dependencies
aren't in debian. So you would either have to get mencoder into debian.
I don't know wether nobody wanted mencoder packaged yet or wether there
might be legal issues about it - either because of some laws or because
of debian policies.
Again, you won't get any package into debian if it's dependencies can't
be met by debian packages.
That being said, I woul definately like to see your program in debian,
if that would be possible.
regards,
Sven
PS: http://learn.to/quote might also be an interesting read for you ;-)
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| Adeodato Simó 2004-09-28, 9:19 pm |
| * Sven Mueller [Wed, 29 Sep 2004 01:41:28 +0200]:
> You won't get any program into debian as package if it's dependencies
> aren't in debian.
such package can exist in contrib.
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| Adam Majer 2004-09-28, 9:19 pm |
| Oded Shimon wrote:
>This may not be the best place to ask this, i skimmed a bit in debian.org and
>couldn't find this - how would i got about adding a program i made to the
>debian apt sites?... do i need to email a debian maintainer, or is it
>something like where all the programs on the debian list are purely programs
>which maintainers have picked up on their own, and there is no way of
>actually submitting a program?
>
>
Since I haven't seen a direct anwer yet, here it is.
Just use `reportbug` (apt-get install reportbug)
reportbug wnpp
And select option 5, RFP. Then fill in the fields and submit the bug.
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| Sven Mueller 2004-09-28, 9:19 pm |
| Adeodato Simó [u] wrote on 29/09/2004 02:24:
> * Sven Mueller [Wed, 29 Sep 2004 01:41:28 +0200]:
>
>
> such package can exist in contrib.
Which is - strictly speaking - not part of debian AFAIK.
cu,
sven
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| Oded Shimon 2004-09-29, 3:09 am |
| On Wednesday 29 September 2004 03:32, Sven Mueller wrote:
> Adeodato Sim=F3 [u] wrote on 29/09/2004 02:24:
>
> Which is - strictly speaking - not part of debian AFAIK.
>
> cu,
> sven
strictly speaking, my program doesn't actually depend on mencoder... it wil=
l=20
puke a ton of error messages when running, but it'll still run... without=20
mplayer and mencoder it can still provide shell scripts to be run to encode=
=20
with the exact options the user requested....i will need to add a little=20
modification for it to be able to load files without mplayer, besides that =
it=20
doesnt really depend on them...
anyway, i think i've goten the hang of this, on wnpp i post an 'RFP:', and=
=20
once i've got a ready package (which if noone replies to my 'RFP:', i could=
=20
build myself), i post an 'RFS:' on debian-mentors... gonna do so now...
thankyou for all the help, i'll try to restrict my newbie questions to=20
debian-mentors now
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| Thomas Bushnell BSG 2004-09-30, 10:47 am |
| Oded Shimon <ods15@ods15.dyndns.org> writes:
> ok, umm, i appreciatte the reply, but that was kinda... gibrish to
> me... could you point me to a site to rtfm? whats rfp etc. ... what
> do you mean by developer? debian developer or developer of my
> program?....
I was assuming by your posting on the debian-devel list that you knew
something about Debian development procedures and lingo. It sounds
like your question belongs on the Debian user help list instead.
Thomas
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