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| martin f krafft 2004-12-30, 5:54 pm |
| Hi all!
In the process of completion of my book (http://debianbook.info),
I have one more question. Unfortunately, I am on a shitty GSM link
right now and the available (crippled) means of research have not
been able to produce an answer to the following:
Where does the Debian Swirl come from?
What does it try to symbolise?
Thank you for your help!
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| Ron Johnson 2004-12-30, 5:54 pm |
| On Thu, 2004-12-30 at 18:01 +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> In the process of completion of my book (http://debianbook.info),
> I have one more question. Unfortunately, I am on a shitty GSM link
> right now and the available (crippled) means of research have not
> been able to produce an answer to the following:
>
> Where does the Debian Swirl come from?
> What does it try to symbolise?
>
> Thank you for your help!
A thread recently on d-user (I think) about what font is used in
the logo brought a response which showed the www.debian.org web
page that declared the winner of the 1999 contest, and gave his
email address.
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| On Thu, Dec 30, 2004 at 01:16:03PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-12-30 at 18:01 +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
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> A thread recently on d-user (I think) about what font is used in
> the logo brought a response which showed the www.debian.org web
> page that declared the winner of the 1999 contest, and gave his
> email address.
>
Just a smokescreen! The Debian log is very obviously a Bass Clef !
Whilst this has appealing connotations, consider:
The Bass Clef was once an 'F'. <da da DAH !>
Is this a sign that the Debian project was already infiltrated by
an advance party of Fedoran fifth-columnists in 1999 ?
Is this a sign of a union in the future ?
All this and more in next week's exciting episode!
On a more serious note, I would encourage you to also consider
the question:
What does it symbolise?
Regards,
Paddy
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| Frank Küster 2004-12-31, 7:47 am |
| paddy <paddy@panici.net> wrote:
> Just a smokescreen! The Debian log is very obviously a Bass Clef !
>
> Whilst this has appealing connotations, consider:
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> The Bass Clef was once an 'F'. <da da DAH !>
>
> Is this a sign that the Debian project was already infiltrated by=20
> an advance party of Fedoran fifth-columnists in 1999 ?
You seem to be a little paranoid. Of course 'F' stands for 'Freedom'. And
for 'Fine'.
Regards, Frank
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| Henrique de Moraes Holschuh 2004-12-31, 7:47 am |
| On Fri, 31 Dec 2004, Frank K=FCster wrote:
> paddy <paddy@panici.net> wrote:
>=20
> You seem to be a little paranoid. Of course 'F' stands for 'Freedom'. A=
nd
> for 'Fine'.
And I always thought the swirl stood for the magic smoke[1] that makes yo=
ur
computer work. Silly me...
[1] Check the jargon file or foldoc
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where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
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| Hanspeter Kunz 2004-12-31, 5:53 pm |
| On Thu, 2004-12-30 at 18:01 +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> In the process of completion of my book (http://debianbook.info),
> I have one more question. Unfortunately, I am on a shitty GSM link
> right now and the available (crippled) means of research have not
> been able to produce an answer to the following:
>
> Where does the Debian Swirl come from?
> What does it try to symbolise?
Was (partly) answered on debian-user some days ago:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user...2/msg03402.html
cheers,
Hp.
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| Ron Johnson 2004-12-31, 5:53 pm |
| On Fri, 2004-12-31 at 13:48 +0100, Frank Küster wrote:
> paddy <paddy@panici.net> wrote:
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> You seem to be a little paranoid. Of course 'F' stands for 'Freedom'. And
> for 'Fine'.
And "fscked up". Which would tie in nicely with "Fedora". :0
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| Niklas Vainio 2005-01-05, 5:57 pm |
| On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 11:31:58AM +0200, Fabian Fagerholm wrote:
> Sorry for the delayed response, but here is a possible answer to the
> second part of the question from a semiotic perspective. Although the
> question was what the swirl /tries/ to symbolize, it may be of some
> interest what it actually might have ended up symbolizing for some
> people. Fasten seatbelts, please.
Some time ago I saw Toy Story for the first time and noticed that Buzz
Lightyear has a symbol similar to the Debian swirl in his jaw. It can be
seen in these pictures:
http://www.bugkid.com/toystory/pictures/011.jpg
http://allearsnet.com/tp/mk/buzz7.jpg
Knowing the close relation between Debian and Toy Story, it seems likely
this was a source of inspiration for the swirl artist.
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| Hanspeter Kunz 2005-01-29, 2:47 am |
| On Fri, 2004-12-31 at 15:18 +0100, Hanspeter Kunz wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-12-30 at 18:01 +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
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> Was (partly) answered on debian-user some days ago:
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> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user...2/msg03402.html
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After digging a bit more, I found the following post:
http://lists.userlinux.com/pipermai...rch/004625.html
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It's "magic smoke". Electrical engineer lore is that when you burn out
an electronic component, you cause the "magic smoke" that makes it work
to be released. Once the magic smoke is gone, the component doesn't work
any longer. Debian is supposed to be the magic smoke that makes your
computer work.
Thanks
Bruce [Perens]
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Shouldn't this explanation go to www.debian.org/logos/ ?
cheers,
Hp.
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