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| Junichi Uekawa 2005-09-27, 8:51 pm |
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| Erik Schanze 2005-09-28, 6:03 pm |
| Hello Junichi!
Junichi Uekawa Junichi Uekawa <dancer@netfort.gr.jp>:
> pbuilder is doing as usual; it's now switched over to
> cdebootstrap and cdebootstrap has been working fine.
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Not for me.
I maintain my own small mirror by apt-move together with apt-zip because
I own a small modem line, but can download elsewhere.
It wasn't able to use this mirror with pbuilder+cdebootstrap because
cdebootstrap will see Release.gpg and Packages.gpg files, that I
haven't generated (no need to do so yet).
Is there any way to switch this off in cdebootstrap?
Kindly regards,
Erik
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| Junichi Uekawa 2005-09-29, 6:01 pm |
| Hi,
> Not for me.
>
> I maintain my own small mirror by apt-move together with apt-zip because
> I own a small modem line, but can download elsewhere.
> It wasn't able to use this mirror with pbuilder+cdebootstrap because
> cdebootstrap will see Release.gpg and Packages.gpg files, that I
> haven't generated (no need to do so yet).
>
> Is there any way to switch this off in cdebootstrap?
That's a wishlist for cdebootstrap; I guess.
It will probably soon be required to have the key checks
in pbuilder when I come around to adding those support to
pbuilder.
regards,
junichi
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| Bastian Blank 2005-09-29, 6:01 pm |
| On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 08:25:23PM +0200, Erik Schanze wrote:
> I maintain my own small mirror by apt-move together with apt-zip because
> I own a small modem line, but can download elsewhere.
> It wasn't able to use this mirror with pbuilder+cdebootstrap because
> cdebootstrap will see Release.gpg and Packages.gpg files, that I
> haven't generated (no need to do so yet).
Uh, yes, it fails there is no Release.gpg file. This is a bug.
Bastian
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| Don Armstrong 2005-09-29, 6:01 pm |
| On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, Bastian Blank wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 08:25:23PM +0200, Erik Schanze wrote:
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> Uh, yes, it fails there is no Release.gpg file. This is a bug.
Interestingly though, it will accept an invalid Release.gpg file with
0 length...
Don Armstrong
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| Joey Hess 2005-09-30, 8:48 pm |
| Junichi Uekawa wrote:
> debootstrap test:
> [FAIL] create-sid-debootstrap
> [FAIL] build-sid-dsh
> [FAIL] pdebuild-sid-dsh
> [FAIL] pdebuild-internal-sid-dsh
> [FAIL] create-etch-debootstrap
> [FAIL] build-etch-dsh
> [FAIL] pdebuild-etch-dsh
> [FAIL] pdebuild-internal-etch-dsh
> [FAIL] update-etch-sid.log
> [FAIL] update-etch-sid-experimental.log
This suggests to me that you're not passing --resolve-deps to
debootstrap, which will always be necessary for it to work reliably for
unstable/testing.
Debootstrap has sucessfully installed unstable and testing in every one
of my daily tests for at least the last three months.
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| Junichi Uekawa 2005-10-01, 2:50 am |
| Hi,
>
> This suggests to me that you're not passing --resolve-deps to
> debootstrap, which will always be necessary for it to work reliably for
> unstable/testing.
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> Debootstrap has sucessfully installed unstable and testing in every one
> of my daily tests for at least the last three months.
Yes, I don't have --resolve-deps, in the hope that
priorities are fixed by ftp-masters.
There needs to be a decision somewhere:
1. ignore priorities and go back to what it was before
and make --resolve-deps the default in debootstrap
2. try to fix priorities/section
regards,
junichi
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| Joey Hess 2005-10-01, 5:54 pm |
| Junichi Uekawa wrote:
> Yes, I don't have --resolve-deps, in the hope that
> priorities are fixed by ftp-masters.
>
> There needs to be a decision somewhere:
> 1. ignore priorities and go back to what it was before
> and make --resolve-deps the default in debootstrap
> 2. try to fix priorities/section
AFAIK the plan is to not constantly bother the ftp masters with override
changes, and only get them updated just before the stable release. Then
stable will be installable without --resolve-deps. However, unstable
will still need it.
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| Bastian Blank 2005-10-01, 8:48 pm |
| On Sat, Oct 01, 2005 at 02:12:14PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> AFAIK the plan is to not constantly bother the ftp masters with override
> changes,
Which makes the whole packages buggy according to the policy.
Bastian
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| Jeroen van Wolffelaar 2005-10-01, 8:48 pm |
| On Sat, Oct 01, 2005 at 02:12:14PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Junichi Uekawa wrote:
>
> AFAIK the plan is to not constantly bother the ftp masters with override
> changes, and only get them updated just before the stable release. Then
> stable will be installable without --resolve-deps. However, unstable
> will still need it.
Fwiw, it's quite fine to get overrides changed throughout the release cycle --
it's even preferred because *if* there are issues, they are discovered early
instead of last-minute.
That said, I think it's good to use --resolve-deps by default for
testing/unstable, so that override changes aren't that urgent (they don't
break daily builds etc every other day), and can be batched up a bit, and
processed when the dependency graph is a bit stable. Which may very well be
only possible in the second half of a release cycle, but doing it really
last-minute seems unwise to me.
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| Junichi Uekawa 2005-10-02, 2:50 am |
| Hi,
> That said, I think it's good to use --resolve-deps by default for
> testing/unstable, so that override changes aren't that urgent (they don't
> break daily builds etc every other day), and can be batched up a bit, and
> processed when the dependency graph is a bit stable. Which may very well be
> only possible in the second half of a release cycle, but doing it really
> last-minute seems unwise to me.
I don't want to have to use different options for different distributions,
like switching to --resolve-deps for sid only. From QA point of view,
we are distributing something that is only lightly tested as a stable
release; which means it will inevitably be broken in subtle ways
on architectures that are more lightly tested.
If Priorities aren't going to be updated in a timely manner within
sid distribution, it might be time to rethink about its usefulness.
regards,
junichi
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| Henrique de Moraes Holschuh 2005-10-02, 2:50 am |
| On Sun, 02 Oct 2005, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
> If Priorities aren't going to be updated in a timely manner within
> sid distribution, it might be time to rethink about its usefulness.
Agreed.
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