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| Adrian von Bidder 2006-01-15, 7:49 am |
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| sean finney 2006-01-15, 7:49 am |
| On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 11:58:51AM +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote:
> Do you think your constant bitching is funny? Do you think it achieves
> anything?
>
> There are other DDs who are also involved in intense debates and flamewars
> very often, but you're the only one where I constantly get the impression
> that you're just being childish, insulting and annoying for the sake of it.
...says someone who just publicly ostracized a fellow dd
on a public mailing list. personal opinions of the matter aside,
debian-devel is not the place for ridiculing other developers, no
matter how justified you feel you may be.
please post follow-ups to -private.
sean
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| Joerg Jaspert 2006-01-15, 7:49 am |
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| Joe Wreschnig 2006-01-15, 5:53 pm |
| On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 06:28 -0500, sean finney wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 11:58:51AM +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote:
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> ...says someone who just publicly ostracized a fellow dd
> on a public mailing list. personal opinions of the matter aside,
> debian-devel is not the place for ridiculing other developers, no
> matter how justified you feel you may be.
>
> please post follow-ups to -private.
I said this on -private, and I'll say it here -- why is it appropriate
to be an XXX on -private, but not on -devel? It's not appropriate
anywhere. That goes for Adrian, and Andrew, and everyone. It also leads
to situations like the present, where it looks like we're doing nothing
to reprimand offensive behavior, because most conversation is happening
on -private, while the original, offensive message is sitting on d-d-a.
If you are upset by how Andrew acted, talk to him rationally, regardless
of whether it's public or private.
If you are *very* upset by how Andrew acted, there is an appropriate and
agreed-to policy for expelling developers. Roger Leigh has mentioned his
interest in seeing this through; contact him.
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Joe Wreschnig <piman@debian.org>
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| Dallam Wych 2006-01-18, 5:56 pm |
| On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 05:09:03PM -0600, Joe Wreschnig wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 06:28 -0500, sean finney wrote:
>
> I said this on -private, and I'll say it here -- why is it appropriate
> to be an XXX on -private, but not on -devel? It's not appropriate
> anywhere. That goes for Adrian, and Andrew, and everyone. It also leads
> to situations like the present, where it looks like we're doing nothing
> to reprimand offensive behavior, because most conversation is happening
> on -private, while the original, offensive message is sitting on d-d-a.
>
> If you are upset by how Andrew acted, talk to him rationally, regardless
> of whether it's public or private.
>
> If you are *very* upset by how Andrew acted, there is an appropriate and
> agreed-to policy for expelling developers. Roger Leigh has mentioned his
> interest in seeing this through; contact him.
> --
> Joe Wreschnig <piman@debian.org>
I imagine that the ubuntu people, which include those on canonicals
payroll that are posting to this list, are really finding this kind of discord
within the Debian community quite comical and amusing.
Regards,
Dallam
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| Gustavo Franco 2006-01-18, 5:56 pm |
| On 1/18/06, Dallam Wych <dallam.wyche@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 05:09:03PM -0600, Joe Wreschnig wrote:
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> I imagine that the ubuntu people, which include those on canonicals
> payroll that are posting to this list, are really finding this kind of di=
scord
> within the Debian community quite comical and amusing.
>
You ignore that a lot of them are part of the Debian community. This
project would be better if people like you applied part of the
imagination to contribute (at least) with useful comments.
--
Gustavo Franco -- <stratus@debian.org>
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| Robert Collins 2006-01-19, 8:12 am |
| On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 20:44 +0000, Dallam Wych wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 05:09:03PM -0600, Joe Wreschnig wrote:
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> I imagine that the ubuntu people, which include those on canonicals
> payroll that are posting to this list, are really finding this kind of discord
> within the Debian community quite comical and amusing.
No more or less comical or amusing than I found it before Canonical was
started. Which is to say, neither comical nor amusing.
Rob
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GPG key available at: <http://www.robertcollins.net/keys.txt>.
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