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Author Request for Help/Comments: fvwm95
Daniel Martin

2006-11-13, 9:05 am

fvwm95 is an ugly package and must die.

Here's the rationale:

fvwm95 is a fork off a version of fvwm2 that was current sometime in
1995. That is, it's a fork off code that's over 10 years old.

Upstream disappeared from the net sometime in 1997. There have been
no upstream changes in over 9 years.

fvwm95 is currently broken in a default etch setup because it can't
handle utf-8 locales. It also was only changed the bare minimum
necessary in the X11R6 -> X11R7 transition. The only way to make it
work is with a plain en_US or C locale. (Well, other iso-latin-1
locales probably work too, and I've had reports that iso-latin-2
locales mostly work)

I have no desire to maintain this package any more, and I have a
moderately strong desire to see this package stripped from debian, as
its presence is just ugly crud on the archive.

Therefore, here's my proposal: I propose to write and maintain a set
of configuration files for the current fvwm that cause fvwm to look
and behave the way fvwm95 does now under a C locale. The fvwm95
package will be transitioned to this new package.

Now, what do people think of this idea?

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Marco d'Itri

2006-11-13, 9:05 am

On Nov 08, Daniel Martin <fizbin@debian.org> wrote:

> Therefore, here's my proposal: I propose to write and maintain a set
> of configuration files for the current fvwm that cause fvwm to look
> and behave the way fvwm95 does now under a C locale. The fvwm95
> package will be transitioned to this new package.
>
> Now, what do people think of this idea?

Looks like a great plan. But probably you can just add these files as
examples for the fvmw package.

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ciao,
Marco

Michelle Konzack

2006-11-13, 9:05 am

Hello Daniel & Marco,

Am 2006-11-08 16:49:09, schrieb Marco d'Itri:
> On Nov 08, Daniel Martin <fizbin@debian.org> wrote:
>
> Looks like a great plan. But probably you can just add these files as
> examples for the fvmw package.


You can download a Win95 Theme including the neccesary
icons over the website <http://www.fvwm.org/>.


Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
Tamay Dogan Network
Debian GNU/Linux Consultant


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Adrian von Bidder

2006-11-13, 9:05 am

Steinar H. Gunderson

2006-11-13, 9:05 am

On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 06:47:02PM +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote:
> (I don't know anything about these window managers, perhaps there are some
> devoted fvwm1 followers so keeping it may be mandated. Somebody at least
> cared enough to NMU it recently. popcon numbers alone should certainly not
> be the only source for deciding this.)


As the last NMUer of fvwm1, I can wholeheartedly say that I do not care about
it, nor have I ever. It was just a long list of RC bugfixes in order to get
the archive in a more usable state for etch -- when you do this kind of BSP
or QA work, you usually barely see the package name, much less consider the
package's usefulness. (In fact, I had to check to see that I was indeed the
one NMUing it :-) )

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