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Bug#400070: RFP: gaia -- Google Earth client
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| Axel Beckert 2006-11-23, 7:19 pm |
| Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
* Package name : gaia
Version : 0.1.0
Upstream Author : gaia@serezhkin.com
* URL or Web page : http://gaia.serezhkin.com/
* License : GPLv2
Description : Google Earth client
Gaia is both a free library and free client to Google Earth for Linux,
*BSD, MacOS X and in future also Windows.
It was developed by reverse-engineering the Google Earth protocol and
is based on many well-known Open Source components including OpenGL,
SCons, cURL, SDL, libjpeg, libpng, libgps and Doxygen.
The author is neither named on the gaia website, in the file COPYING
(which seems to be an unmodified GPL template) nor in the source
itself. Only the e-mail address mentioned above is given as contact
possibility. And www.serezhkin.com is not reachable at the moment.
Kind regards, Axel
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| Bill Allombert 2006-11-25, 7:24 pm |
| On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 01:20:41AM +0100, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote:
> El jue, 23-11-2006 a las 18:50 +0100, Axel Beckert escribi??:
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> Sorry, but it seems that Google send a cease&desist letter to gaia
> developers, as you can see in their webpage (URL above):
Someone should grab gaia-0.1.0.tar.bz2 from Google cache and then
claim that Google distributed the software under the GNU GPL.
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| Petter Reinholdtsen 2006-11-25, 7:24 pm |
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[Bill Allombert]
> Someone should grab gaia-0.1.0.tar.bz2 from Google cache and then
> claim that Google distributed the software under the GNU GPL.
Hehe. Doubt that will have any effect, though. 
It will not address the problem for the most interesting material,
though, as the google map data isn't GPL, and can not be claimed to be
GPL. And a google earth clone is rather useless without permission to
fetch data from google.
I recommend earth3d and the NASA worldwind spinoffs if you want free
map data.
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| Fabricio \aybabtu\ Cannini 2006-11-26, 7:19 pm |
| Em Saturday 25 November 2006 22:23, Petter Reinholdtsen escreveu:
> [Bill Allombert]
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> Hehe. Doubt that will have any effect, though.
>
> It will not address the problem for the most interesting material,
> though, as the google map data isn't GPL, and can not be claimed to be
> GPL. And a google earth clone is rather useless without permission to
> fetch data from google.
>
> I recommend earth3d and the NASA worldwind spinoffs if you want free
> map data.
Call it a n00b question (ok, it IS a n00b question ,
but if the whole problem is about google's data,
why don't google GPLs the program (google earth) ?
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| Bill Allombert 2006-11-26, 7:19 pm |
| On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 01:23:12AM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
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> [Bill Allombert]
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> Hehe. Doubt that will have any effect, though.
Worked against SCO.
> It will not address the problem for the most interesting material,
> though, as the google map data isn't GPL, and can not be claimed to be
> GPL. And a google earth clone is rather useless without permission to
> fetch data from google.
Which is given implicitly if Google distribute gaia itself.
And being useless is not the same as being illegal.
> I recommend earth3d and the NASA worldwind spinoffs if you want free
> map data.
I do not want free data, but a free client. Beside Google earth data
are not property of Google. But anyway, thanks for the pointers!
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| Petter Reinholdtsen 2006-11-26, 7:19 pm |
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[Fabricio \"aybabtu\" Cannini]
> Call it a n00b question (ok, it IS a n00b question , but if the
> whole problem is about google's data, why don't google GPLs the
> program (google earth) ?
It might be a naive question, but I suspect there are better chances
of getting a real answer to it by asking the developers at Google, and
not this list.
I have not seen any arguments from Google myself, but I have not
looked for it either.
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| Andrew M.A. Cater 2006-11-26, 7:19 pm |
| On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 11:39:42PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
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> [Fabricio \"aybabtu\" Cannini]
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It's _not_ Google's data in some sense: the letter from the Google
engineer that is quoted at the site which held gaia source code and
binaries is (fairly) clear. The data Google Earth uses is licensed from
content providers under fairly restrictive terms and at considerable
cost to Google - hence the EULA. It's not Google's data and they don't
have all the rights necessary to give it away unreservedly - so it comes
down to use of data _NOT_ use of Google Earth API's.
The API's for Google Earth are published - as the Google chap says, go
and use the expertise within gaia on more publicly available data e.g.
the NASA datasets used by the NASA program.
> It might be a naive question, but I suspect there are better chances
> of getting a real answer to it by asking the developers at Google, and
> not this list.
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See above
All the best,
Andy
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