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| Monique Y. Mudama 2004-07-28, 6:21 pm |
| I use starfish truesync on winbleh to sync up my handspring platinum
visor with my computer and my motorola v60i. I know that I can sync my
PDA to various linux apps, but do any support phones as well and let me
sync both to my computer at once?
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| Paul Johnson 2004-07-28, 6:21 pm |
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| Silvan 2004-07-28, 6:21 pm |
| On Sunday 25 July 2004 03:05 am, Paul Johnson wrote:
> "Monique Y. Mudama" <spam@bounceswoosh.org> writes:
>
> My solution: kpilot <usb> Handspring Visor <ir> nokia 3361
Wow. Why do I have the feeling I'm just not living in the modern world?
Platinum visor? Handspring visor? Synchronizing a mobile phone with a
computer?
Kinda makes me glad to be a hermit, I think. 
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| Monique Y. Mudama 2004-07-28, 6:21 pm |
| On 2004-07-25, Paul Johnson penned:
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> "Monique Y. Mudama" <spam@bounceswoosh.org> writes:
>
>
> My solution: kpilot <usb> Handspring Visor <ir> nokia 3361
Ah, yes, I forgot to mention: both PDA and phone are on USB.
Unfortunately, I don't think my phone does the IR thing, so that's not
really an option.
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| Monique Y. Mudama 2004-07-28, 6:21 pm |
| On 2004-07-25, Silvan penned:
>
> Wow. Why do I have the feeling I'm just not living in the modern
> world? Platinum visor? Handspring visor? Synchronizing a mobile
> phone with a computer?
>
> Kinda makes me glad to be a hermit, I think.
Depends on how you view it. My cell phone is my only phone, and it's a
heck of a lot easier to enter contact info into the computer than it is
into the phone! So with this setup, my PDA is where I generally look
first to find info, my computer is where it's easiest to enter the info
and rearrange it, and my cell is where it's most convenient to have
phone numbers. But once I enter info in one place, it propagates to all
three.
It's also nice to know that if any one of the three goes braindead, the
data will be stored in two other places. Well, the cell phone is
limited in that respect, but at least I'd have my most-used numbers.
The one gripe I have is that some part of the configuration doesn't
allow me feed multiple categories into the phone. I have to choose one.
So I had to create a separate "phone" group just for that. But I can
copy/paste entries inside the software interface, so it's not too, too
bad.
Mind you, my phone is a couple of years old and my PDA is even older;
it's not like this is bleeding edge technology =P
(Then again, I still haven't invested in one of those new-fangled DVD
drives, so maybe *I'm* the hermit.)
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| Joost De Cock 2004-07-28, 6:21 pm |
| Quoting "Monique Y. Mudama" <spam@bounceswoosh.org>:
> I use starfish truesync on winbleh to sync up my handspring platinum
> visor with my computer and my motorola v60i. I know that I can sync my
> PDA to various linux apps, but do any support phones as well and let me
> sync both to my computer at once?
KDE's Kitchensync should support that in the future. Currently in KDE, there's
Kandy for mobile phone synching, Kpilot for HotSync syncing (supporting your
Visor amongst others) and Kitchensync does synching with the Opie platform (I
use it to sync my linux running Ipaq).
The idea seems to be that Kitchensync would become the framework to 'sync
anything with anything' but currently, it's not yet there. However, it is under
development in CVS, so maybe in the future, it may be what you've been waiting
for.
I know this is not really an answer to your question, but I just wanted to point
out this option for the future.
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| Silvan 2004-07-28, 6:21 pm |
| On Sunday 25 July 2004 03:42 am, Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
>
> Depends on how you view it. My cell phone is my only phone, and it's a
> heck of a lot easier to enter contact info into the computer than it is
> into the phone! So with this setup, my PDA is where I generally look
> first to find info, my computer is where it's easiest to enter the info
> and rearrange it, and my cell is where it's most convenient to have
> phone numbers. But once I enter info in one place, it propagates to all
> three.
Just a different lifestyle or something, I guess. I can't imagine what data I
would manage if I had all of that stuff.
> (Then again, I still haven't invested in one of those new-fangled DVD
> drives, so maybe *I'm* the hermit.)
Sounds like you're too busy managing information to have time to watch one
anyway.
I'm not poking fun at all, for the record. I just feel slightly out of touch.
I really do live in a bubble. Straight home from work, and I stay home until
it's time to go to work again. My car sat in the same spot for nine days the
last time I was on vacation.
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| Monique Y. Mudama 2004-07-28, 6:21 pm |
| On 2004-07-25, Silvan penned:
> On Sunday 25 July 2004 03:42 am, Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
>
>
> Just a different lifestyle or something, I guess. I can't imagine
> what data I would manage if I had all of that stuff.
Phone numbers and appointments. I've tried using all the other
fanciness, but I never seem to stick with it. Post-its on the wall work
better for me than a to-do list.
Mind you, I wouldn't have a PDA except that my old company gave one to
everyone as part of a reward deal. There are other things on which I'd
rather spend my money, but for free it's not bad!
>
> Sounds like you're too busy managing information to have time to watch
> one anyway.
Oh, my husband brought a DVD *player* into the marriage, so I can watch
them on TV -- I'm talking about in my computer. I've toyed with the
idea, though, particularly to burn off archives; it's just never been
important enough to me.
> I'm not poking fun at all, for the record. I just feel slightly out
> of touch. I really do live in a bubble. Straight home from work, and
> I stay home until it's time to go to work again. My car sat in the
> same spot for nine days the last time I was on vacation.
Well, if that's what you like, that's great =) I don't get out much,
either, for social events, but mountain biking keeps my car pretty busy.
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| Monique Y. Mudama 2004-07-28, 6:21 pm |
| On 2004-07-25, Joost De Cock penned:
> Quoting "Monique Y. Mudama" <spam@bounceswoosh.org>:
>
>
> KDE's Kitchensync should support that in the future. Currently in KDE,
> there's Kandy for mobile phone synching, Kpilot for HotSync syncing
> (supporting your Visor amongst others) and Kitchensync does synching
> with the Opie platform (I use it to sync my linux running Ipaq).
>
> The idea seems to be that Kitchensync would become the framework to
> 'sync anything with anything' but currently, it's not yet there.
> However, it is under development in CVS, so maybe in the future, it
> may be what you've been waiting for.
>
>
> I know this is not really an answer to your question, but I just
> wanted to point out this option for the future.
>
Thanks for the heads-up, anyway. It's good to know they're working in
that direction. Maybe I'll poke my head over there and check it out; I
don't know much about how the syncing works, but I'd imagine that
kitchensync is more about making the various file formats interoperate,
and I ought to be able to help with that. If I can get off my lazy
butt.
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| Hendrik Boom 2004-07-28, 6:21 pm |
| On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 11:47:05AM -0600, Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
>
> Oh, my husband brought a DVD *player* into the marriage, so I can watch
> them on TV -- I'm talking about in my computer. I've toyed with the
> idea, though, particularly to burn off archives; it's just never been
> important enough to me.
A DVD drive in a computer is a *really* good way to watch a DVD.
The screen resolution is better than *anything* I've seen on TV.
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| Joost De Cock 2004-07-28, 6:21 pm |
| Quoting "Monique Y. Mudama" <spam@bounceswoosh.org>:
....[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> Thanks for the heads-up, anyway. It's good to know they're working in
> that direction. Maybe I'll poke my head over there and check it out; I
> don't know much about how the syncing works, but I'd imagine that
> kitchensync is more about making the various file formats interoperate,
> and I ought to be able to help with that. If I can get off my lazy
> butt.
I've read in a previous post that you mointainbike a lot, so it seems your butt
isn't that lazy afterall
If you'd like to contribure to KDE, a good place to start is the KDE Quality
team website at:
http://quality.kde.org
Please forgive me if this is all redundant to you.
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| Silvan 2004-07-28, 6:21 pm |
| On Sunday 25 July 2004 01:47 pm, Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
> Phone numbers
I only need to remember 10. My brain has that much room.
> and appointments. I've tried using all the other
What's an appointment?
> Mind you, I wouldn't have a PDA except that my old company gave one to
> everyone as part of a reward deal. There are other things on which I'd
> rather spend my money, but for free it's not bad!
I guess I have to be fair here. I'm not really *that* much of a hinkle. I'm
just spoiled rotten by my wife, who remembers all this drivel so I don't have
to. Don't know what I'd do without her. I hope I don't have to find out
anytime soon. (And yes, I do tell her how much I appreciate her.
Regularly.)
> Oh, my husband brought a DVD *player* into the marriage, so I can watch
> them on TV -- I'm talking about in my computer. I've toyed with the
> idea, though, particularly to burn off archives; it's just never been
> important enough to me.
Oh, one of those flummies. I don't have one either. I still have a 4X CD-RW.
I'd replace it, but that would kill my uptime.
> Well, if that's what you like, that's great =) I don't get out much,
> either, for social events, but mountain biking keeps my car pretty busy.
I live within walking/riding distance of the trail. I usually walk. You can
avoid more spiders if you're walking, and there are a LOT of spiders out
there this time of year. Spiny orb weavers. Ghastly things to find hanging
off your nose, even though they're harmless.
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| William Ballard 2004-07-28, 6:21 pm |
| On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 11:47:05AM -0600, Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
>
> Phone numbers and appointments. I've tried using all the other
> fanciness, but I never seem to stick with it. Post-its on the wall work
> better for me than a to-do list.
Last year I wrote a GTK app (http://sourceforge.net/projects/pim-tb)
which lets me define a schema in XML, then enter lists of things and
save the data as XML. It's a little minature relational database, and I
use it to keep track of dates, account #s, buglists, books I want, bills
I need to pay, serials, bunch of stuff. I tried the 19,000 programs
Debian ships to do the same thing but didn't like "how they worked" so I
wrote #19,001.
Then I bought a PocketPC. I bought a C# api called "PocketOutlooK"
which lets you programmatically delete and create appointments,
contacts, &c. I wrote a custom C# app that runs on the PocketPC that
imports some XML and creates various things, and use xsltproc on my PC
to transform my little databases into a pre-processed format.
Then I use vsftp and bluez-utils with bluetooth to set up some little
scripts that (1) turn on bluetooth on the host pc, (2) run some curl
scripts to check my current bank balances and current library books,
(3) transform my databases to xml, (4) gzip it it all and put it in an
"outgoing" ftp folder, (5) start bluetooth on the pocketpc, (6) run the
C# app which connects to the ftp server (needed an Open Source C# ftp
library for that, (7) gunzips it (needed an Open Source C# library for
that), (8) deletes all the data on the pocketpc, (9) recreates it all.
It also exports all the "state" of the pocketpc before and after the
import, gzips it, ftps it up to the host pc, and then I run some scripts
which do a "delta" and I manually sync the host app. Mostly I use the
pocketpc for reading data, not entering it.
I have all this down to a 4-step process which takes about 1 minute, and
there is a lot of room for optimization. The trick is you need to write
some code yourself, don't use the crap KDE gives you if you don't want
to be hamstrung.
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| Arne Götje (高盛華) 2004-07-28, 6:22 pm |
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On Monday 26 July 2004 07:33, William Ballard wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 11:47:05AM -0600, Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
>
> Last year I wrote a GTK app (http://sourceforge.net/projects/pim-tb)
> which lets me define a schema in XML, then enter lists of things and
> save the data as XML. It's a little minature relational database,
> and I use it to keep track of dates, account #s, buglists, books I
> want, bills I need to pay, serials, bunch of stuff. I tried the
> 19,000 programs Debian ships to do the same thing but didn't like
> "how they worked" so I wrote #19,001.
>
> Then I bought a PocketPC. I bought a C# api called "PocketOutlooK"
> which lets you programmatically delete and create appointments,
> contacts, &c. I wrote a custom C# app that runs on the PocketPC that
> imports some XML and creates various things, and use xsltproc on my
> PC to transform my little databases into a pre-processed format.
>
> Then I use vsftp and bluez-utils with bluetooth to set up some little
> scripts that (1) turn on bluetooth on the host pc, (2) run some curl
> scripts to check my current bank balances and current library books,
> (3) transform my databases to xml, (4) gzip it it all and put it in
> an "outgoing" ftp folder, (5) start bluetooth on the pocketpc, (6)
> run the C# app which connects to the ftp server (needed an open
> source C# ftp library for that, (7) gunzips it (needed an open source
> C# library for that), (8) deletes all the data on the pocketpc, (9)
> recreates it all.
>
> It also exports all the "state" of the pocketpc before and after the
> import, gzips it, ftps it up to the host pc, and then I run some
> scripts which do a "delta" and I manually sync the host app. Mostly
> I use the pocketpc for reading data, not entering it.
>
> I have all this down to a 4-step process which takes about 1 minute,
> and there is a lot of room for optimization. The trick is you need
> to write some code yourself, don't use the crap KDE gives you if you
> don't want to be hamstrung.
Sounds cool. can you give me more information on that? I was playing=20
with the idea of getting a Pocket PC (Asus A716 with integrated=20
Bluetooth and WiFi) and have the desire to do the same like you...=20
syncing addressbooks with my notbooks and mobile phone (also=20
bluetooth).
Any infos about gotchas and success stories with Pocket PCs and Linux?
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| William Ballard 2004-07-28, 6:22 pm |
| On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 01:23:34PM +0800, Arne Gtje (?????????) wrote:
>
> Sounds cool. can you give me more information on that? I was playing
> with the idea of getting a Pocket PC (Asus A716 with integrated
> bluetooth and WiFi) and have the desire to do the same like you...
> syncing addressbooks with my notbooks and mobile phone (also
> bluetooth).
> Any infos about gotchas and success stories with Pocket PCs and Linux?
This is the best article on getting bluetooth sync working:
http://www.grinta.net/howto/bluez-ipaq.html
My scripts and C# app are at this point an utter hack utterly specific
to me and my tastes, so my code wouldn't be any use to you.
I purchased a C# api called "Pocket Outlook"
(http://www.inthehand.com/index.php?page=6&show=1,2) which lets you
programatically create appointments and tasks. For instance, for my
list of family names, address, birthdays, I create a contact for each,
assign it to the "Personal" category, and automatically create tasks and
appointments 1 week before to buy them a card, but only if it's going to
occur in the next two months. Junk like that. I blow away all the data
on each sync and recreate it all, so it's always in a "good state."
I linked already to the GTK app I use on the Linux side to manage the
data (which I wrote, and works well). I also use it to view the diffs.
Since it uses XML, when combined with xsltproc it's basically infinitely
flexible.
I'll put my C# code up sometime. Here's the script I use on the linux
side:
if [[ "$1" == 'up' ]]; then
echo Cleaning up...
/etc/init.d/vsftpd stop
mkdir -p /home/ftp/pub/{down,up}
rm -r /home/ftp/pub/{down,up}/* 2>/dev/null
mv /home/tom/share/down/* /home/ftp/pub/down 2>/dev/null
chmod -R a+r /home/ftp/pub/down/* 2>/dev/null
echo Exporting Data...
/x/x/sync
chown tom /home/ftp/pub/import.xml.gz /home/tom/share/down/*
2>/dev/null
/etc/init.d/vsftpd start
/etc/init.d/bluez-utils start
echo Waiting 2 seconds...
sleep 2
hciconfig up
hcitool dev
pand -s --role NAP
dund --listen --msdun call dun
fi
if [[ "$1" == 'down' ]]; then
echo Stopping services...
killall dund
killall pand
/etc/init.d/bluez-utils stop
/etc/init.d/vsftpd stop
echo Saving data...
mkdir -p /home/tom/share/{up,down}
mv /home/ftp/pub/up/* /home/tom/share/up 2>/dev/null
rm /home/ftp/pub/{import.xml.gz,books.html,serials.pwi} 2>/dev/null
mv /home/ftp/pub/*.gz /x/d/h 2>/dev/null
if [[ `ls /home/ftp/pub/down | wc -l` -ne 0 ]]; then
dt=`date +"%y%m%d_%H%M%S"`
mkdir -p /home/tom/share/bak/$dt
chown tom /home/tom/share/bak/$dt
mv /home/ftp/pub/down/* /home/tom/share/bak/$dt
fi
fi
if [[ "$1" == 'ip' ]]; then
ifconfig bnep0 10.10.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0
echo Waiting 4 seconds...
sleep 4
ping -c 4 10.10.2.2
fi
if [[ "$1" == 't' ]]; then
ping -c 4 10.10.2.2
fi
The sequence of steps is:
(1) Run /x/x/dun up: which collects all the data, starts bluetooth on the pc,
and starts the ftp server.
(2) Start bluetooth on the iPaq and establish the bluetooth connection.
(3) Run /x/x/dun ip: assign an ip-over-bluetooth address on the PC side, and
make sure you can ping the iPaq.
(4) Run the C# app on the iPaq which connects to the ftp, pulls down the
gzipped xml, imports it, exports up some new xml, and also syncs files.
(5) Disable bluetooth on the iPaq.
(6) Run /x/x/dun down on the PC; which stops all the services, archives the
transferred files, archives the logs for diffing later.
Like I said, it's all a totally-specific-to-me grotesque hackfest, but it's
working pretty good. It's still a newborn project: probably within a
year I'll put some spit and polish on it and publish it.
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| Monique Y. Mudama 2004-07-28, 6:22 pm |
| On 2004-07-25, Hendrik Boom penned:
> On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 11:47:05AM -0600, Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
>
> A DVD drive in a computer is a *really* good way to watch a DVD. The
> screen resolution is better than *anything* I've seen on TV.
Yeah, but I don't have a laptop and the last thing I want to do when I'm
trying to relax is to sit at my desk. Well, unless I'm typing to
newsgroups and mailing lists, of course *grin*
It's nice to get out of the office once in a while.
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| Monique Y. Mudama 2004-07-28, 6:22 pm |
| On 2004-07-25, Joost De Cock penned:
> Quoting "Monique Y. Mudama" <spam@bounceswoosh.org>:
>
> ...
>
> I've read in a previous post that you mointainbike a lot, so it seems
> your butt isn't that lazy afterall
Maybe, but my brain is definitely lazy. I keep meaning to help some OSS
project or another, but I never seem to get around to it ...
> If you'd like to contribure to KDE, a good place to start is the KDE
> Quality team website at: http://quality.kde.org
Thanks! It would actually be kind of funny, as I'm currently using
gnome as my desktop, but I have no particular allegiance to either, and
I don't mind having all the libraries from both installed *g*
> Please forgive me if this is all redundant to you.
Nope; thanks for the info.
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| John Summerfield 2004-07-28, 6:22 pm |
| Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
>Maybe, but my brain is definitely lazy. I keep meaning to help some OSS
>project or another, but I never seem to get around to it ...
>
>
>
Monique
Helping here _is_ helping some OSS project.
It's every bit as useful as cutting cernel code, bashing bugs etc.
If people didn't want your free support, this list wouldn't exist.
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| Monique Y. Mudama 2004-07-28, 6:22 pm |
| On 2004-07-27, John Summerfield penned:
> Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
>
>
> Monique
>
> Helping here _is_ helping some OSS project.
>
> It's every bit as useful as cutting cernel code, bashing bugs etc.
>
> If people didn't want your free support, this list wouldn't exist.
Thanks, John. I don't contribute as much as I feel I should, but I try
to do a bit here and there.
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monique
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