Is this one more example REgress in the name of Progress?  Doesn't anybody
care about heat anymore?
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On Tue, 03 May 2005 04:06:34 -0700,
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>Is this one more example REgress in the name of Progress?  Doesn't anybody
>care about heat anymore?

Sure, but they also have to make things faster and better.  My guess
on the price issue you mention is directly related to the availability
you mentioned.  The more scarce an object the more valuable (usually).

In this case manufacturers stopped making them, or dropped production
significantly.  This means each unit production costs more than
something they are producing in larger quantities.

Supply and demand really.

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On Tue, 03 May 2005 20:35:56 GMT, Faeandar <mr_castalot@yahoo.com> spewed: 
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>Sure, but they also have to make things faster and better.  My guess
>on the price issue you mention is directly related to the availability
>you mentioned.  The more scarce an object the more valuable (usually).
>
>In this case manufacturers stopped making them, or dropped production
>significantly.  This means each unit production costs more than
>something they are producing in larger quantities.
>
>Supply and demand really.
>
>~F

I don't doubt that is true.  What I don't get, is if they're slower, they
should be in less demand and cheaper!  They should be in that category
where they have to sell them less than comparably sized drives at 7200 rpm
with bigger buffers and throughput in order to sell them.
It's seems to go against supply & demand rules.

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<see.my.sig.4.addr@nowhere.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 03 May 2005 20:35:56 GMT, Faeandar <mr_castalot@yahoo.com> spewed:
 
>
> I don't doubt that is true.  What I don't get, is if they're slower, they
> should be in less demand and cheaper!  They should be in that category
> where they have to sell them less than comparably sized drives at 7200 rpm
> with bigger buffers and throughput in order to sell them.
> It's seems to go against supply & demand rules.

That assumes that the market for 5400RPM drives is elastic, i.e. the cheaper
you make them the more people will buy them, but most people are quite happy
with the higher performing 7200RPM drives. Drive manufacturers know that
there is a small market that has particular needs that can only be satisfied
by 5400rpm drives and that market will pay higher prices for them, so why
sell 'em cheaper?

Yes, they could charge less for 5400rpm drives if they wanted to create a
market that was equally split between slower and faster drives but that then
opens them to:

1. Having to maintain two seperate high-volume production lines instead of
one, that costs them more.

2. Having to accurately forecast both the overall size of the drive market
and the split between faster and slower drives. If they get their forecasts
wrong they end up with an inventory problem with one type of drive (costs
money) and an under supply problem for the other market which isn't good
either.

So at the end of the day, it doesn't make sense for the drive manufactures
to promote slower drives by lowering prices.


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On Sun, 8 May 2005 08:10:39 -0400, "Nik Simpson" <n_simpson@bellsouth.net>
spewed: 
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>That assumes that the market for 5400RPM drives is elastic, i.e. the cheape
r
>you make them the more people will buy them, but most people are quite happ
y
>with the higher performing 7200RPM drives. Drive manufacturers know that
>there is a small market that has particular needs that can only be satisfie
d
>by 5400rpm drives and that market will pay higher prices for them, so why
>sell 'em cheaper?
>
>Yes, they could charge less for 5400rpm drives if they wanted to create a
>market that was equally split between slower and faster drives but that the
n
>opens them to:
>
>1. Having to maintain two seperate high-volume production lines instead of
>one, that costs them more.
>
>2. Having to accurately forecast both the overall size of the drive market
>and the split between faster and slower drives. If they get their forecasts
>wrong they end up with an inventory problem with one type of drive (costs
>money) and an under supply problem for the other market which isn't good
>either.
>
>So at the end of the day, it doesn't make sense for the drive manufactures
>to promote slower drives by lowering prices.

Makes sense.
So the minority is screwed again by the mindless masses 
Sort of like drug companies.  If you've got something that isn't
profitable enough for them to produce anything to help, you can just die.
And somehow the people making that decision think they don't live in the
same world and they or anybody they know or give a crap about will eeeever
be affected.
But I digress.. slightly ;)

So, the question remains where do I find said 5400rpm drives?
When I do a search I find like ONE, and it's too small.

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see.my.sig.4.addr@nowhere.com.invalid writes:
> So, the question remains where do I find said 5400rpm drives?
> When I do a search I find like ONE, and it's too small.

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produ...goryCode=011002

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