Included: Retail box, 9 CD's, Installation Guide, RedHat Service
Activation card. I am asking $50 + shipping (in the USA only).

If you are interested, please leave an email address. Thanks

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On Sat, 21 May 2005 19:21:54 +0000, Gordy wrote:

> Included: Retail box, 9 CD's, Installation Guide, RedHat Service
> Activation card. I am asking $50 + shipping (in the USA only).
>
> If you are interested, please leave an email address. Thanks

It's not legal to transfer software licenses.

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Ivan Marsh wrote:
> On Sat, 21 May 2005 19:21:54 +0000, Gordy wrote:
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>
> It's not legal to transfer software licenses.
>

Eh? Of course it is you PILLOCK

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On Mon, 23 May 2005 18:36:21 +0100, Gordon wrote:

> Ivan Marsh wrote: 
>
> Eh? Of course it is you PILLOCK

Think you better read that license again.

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Ivan Marsh wrote:
> On Mon, 23 May 2005 18:36:21 +0100, Gordon wrote:
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>
> Think you better read that license again.
>

Well I can't believe that MICROSOFT allows you to transfer a retail copy
of WINDOWS to another party yet Redhat doesn't!

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Gordy wrote:
> Included: Retail box, 9 CD's, Installation Guide, RedHat Service
> Activation card. I am asking $50 + shipping (in the USA only).
>
> If you are interested, please leave an email address. Thanks

How could anyone buy this? You do not provide sufficient information. For
one thing, if it is not Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 WS, there would be little
point in purchasing it for a new system anyway. So, at least, is it RHEL 3
WS or RHEL 4 ES?

Did you obtain written permission from Red Hat to transfer your license? See
Section 5.

http://www.redhat.com/licenses/rhel...=United+States&

If not, the sale would violate the license agreement.

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On Mon, 23 May 2005 20:49:00 +0100, Gordon wrote:

> Ivan Marsh wrote: 
>
> Well I can't believe that MICROSOFT allows you to transfer a retail copy
> of WINDOWS to another party yet Redhat doesn't!

What you believe is irrelevant. Keep in mind we are not talking about the
GPL license here.

http://www.redhat.com/licenses/

From the Redhat license agreement in question:

2. NON-TRANSFERABLE. This Agreement, and all Services provided by Red Hat
pursuant to this Agreement, may not be transferred, assigned or
distributed without the prior written consent of Red Hat. Any attempted
transfer, assignment or distribution without Red Hat's prior written
consent shall terminate this Agreement, and Red Hat shall have no further
obligation hereunder.

From the Microsoft XP license agreement:

4. TRANSFER - Internal. You may move the Product to a different
Workstation Computer. After the transfer, you must completely remove the
Product from the former Workstation Computer. Transfer to Third Party. The
initial user of the Product may make a one-time transfer of the Product to
another end user. The transfer has to include all component parts, media,
printed materials, this EULA, and if applicable, the Certificate of
Authenticity. The transfer may not be an indirect transfer, such as a
consignment. Prior to the transfer, the end user receiving the transferred
Product must agree to all the EULA terms. No Rental. You may not rent,
lease, lend or provide commercial hosting services to third parties with
the Product.


A license agreement is just that. If it says you can't transfer it you
can't.

Looks to me like you can't sell either of them, but I guess that depends
on how Microsoft defines consignment.

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Ivan Marsh wrote:

> From the Redhat license agreement in question:
>
> 2. NON-TRANSFERABLE. This Agreement, and all Services provided by Red Hat
> pursuant to this Agreement, may not be transferred, assigned or
> distributed without the prior written consent of Red Hat. Any attempted
> transfer, assignment or distribution without Red Hat's prior written
> consent shall terminate this Agreement, and Red Hat shall have no further
> obligation hereunder.

I saw this. it seems to me this refers to the PAID support subscription,
NOT the software itself. The word "services" is pertinent.

The MS EULA allows a Retail copy of XP to be LEGALLY sold or otherwise
transfered to a third party as long as they get everything, manual, COA,
the works.

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On Tue, 24 May 2005 18:21:18 +0100, Gordon wrote:

> Ivan Marsh wrote:
> 
>
> I saw this. it seems to me this refers to the PAID support subscription,
> NOT the software itself. The word "services" is pertinent.

The software license agreement is GPL and is transferable by definition.

The only useful license you get when you pay for RH9 Pro Workstation box
is the service agreement. Which is what we've been talking about. There is
no RH proprietary software in that box.

You would therefore be paying the OP $50 for software you can download for
free, manuals you can download for free and a RedHat Service Activation
card that's not worth the paper it's printed on.

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Ivan Marsh wrote (in part):

> The only useful license you get when you pay for RH9 Pro Workstation box
> is the service agreement. Which is what we've been talking about. There is
> no RH proprietary software in that box.

You don't get nuttin when you pay for RH9, because it was discontinued years
ago. I believe you got a 1-year subscription to Red Hat Network with it
(long since expired) so up2date would keep your system up to date.


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