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I was wondering if anyone knew of any computer monitoring software
that might be worth looking at.  I am currently using BMC Patrol
which leaves a lot to be desired in terms of reliability and support.
I have a lot of experience with HP Openview which does not meet my
business needs.

Requirements:

Agent based, ideally runs as a mortal user, not root.
Server piece runs on UNIX, ideally Linux
Features and User Interface similar to HP OVO or BMC Patrol
Reliable event management database, ideally using something like
mysql
Has good security features (encryption, proxy, etc) that will make
monitoring over the Internet feasible.

Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

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On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 01:40:27 -0800, Vigilance Monitoring <no_spam@aracnet.com> wrote:
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> I was wondering if anyone knew of any computer monitoring software
> that might be worth looking at.  I am currently using BMC Patrol
> which leaves a lot to be desired in terms of reliability and support.
>  I have a lot of experience with HP Openview which does not meet my
> business needs.


Check out BigBrother at http://bb4.com - free for most users, cheap for
those who it is not free for, and has a deluxe version if you want to
get fancy.
quote:

> Requirements:
>
> Agent based, ideally runs as a mortal user, not root.

Yes.
quote:

> Server piece runs on UNIX, ideally Linux


Yes, either.
quote:

> Features and User Interface similar to HP OVO or BMC Patrol


Check out the demo at bb4.com and you tell me.  Click on the dots; red is
bad, green is good...
quote:

> Reliable event management database, ideally using something like
> mysql


Not sure, flexible reporting to extract and export data.  Lots of
very readable shell scripts and other resources are available for it
at deadcat.net
quote:

> Has good security features (encryption, proxy, etc) that will make
> monitoring over the Internet feasible.


Yup.
quote:

> Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.


Take a look at BigBrother - they also have a very active mailing list
full of helpful folks, and an extensive (searchable) archive of same.
An install from scratch should take you a couple of hours to get up
and running; customized tests (CPU temperature or whatever) are trivial
to add as well.

Dave Hinz

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Vigilance Monitoring wrote:
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> I was wondering if anyone knew of any computer monitoring software
> that might be worth looking at.  I am currently using BMC Patrol
> which leaves a lot to be desired in terms of reliability and support.
>  I have a lot of experience with HP Openview which does not meet my
> business needs.
>
> Requirements:
>
> Agent based, ideally runs as a mortal user, not root.
> Server piece runs on UNIX, ideally Linux
> Features and User Interface similar to HP OVO or BMC Patrol
> Reliable event management database, ideally using something like
> mysql
> Has good security features (encryption, proxy, etc) that will make
> monitoring over the Internet feasible.
>
> Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
>


Disclaimer: I am about to recommend software that I work on...

If you want to watch your Oracle DBs, I/Watch - http://quest.com/i_watch

If you have lots of other things, FogLight - http://quest.com/foglight

I would have recommneded BigBrother (which we own too) but you want an
agent-based solution.

Cheers,
Gary	B-)

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"Vigilance Monitoring" <no_spam@aracnet.com> wrote in message
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> I was wondering if anyone knew of any computer monitoring software
> that might be worth looking at.  I am currently using BMC Patrol
> which leaves a lot to be desired in terms of reliability and support.
>  I have a lot of experience with HP Openview which does not meet my
> business needs.
>
> Requirements:
>
> Agent based, ideally runs as a mortal user, not root.
> Server piece runs on UNIX, ideally Linux
> Features and User Interface similar to HP OVO or BMC Patrol
> Reliable event management database, ideally using something like
> mysql
> Has good security features (encryption, proxy, etc) that will make
> monitoring over the Internet feasible.
>
> Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
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Hello,
If you want to look at security and syslogs & such - try  Open Service
www.open.com

If you want to look at Performance - try www.deltek.us  - the DPMonitor.

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On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 12:06:30 +1100, Gary Schmidt <Gary.Schmidt@oz.quest.com>
 wrote:
quote:

> I would have recommneded BigBrother (which we own too) but you want an
> agent-based solution.


Er, what about the bb installation isn't agent-based, please?  There's
a BBDISPLAY host which has the webpage & database, and then for anything
other than basic monitoring (ping/services/etc) there's an agent that
gets installed on the system to be monitored.  Maybe we have different
definitions or something?

Dave Hinz

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Dave Hinz wrote:
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> On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 12:06:30 +1100, Gary Schmidt <Gary.Schmidt@oz.quest.co
m> wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> Er, what about the bb installation isn't agent-based, please?  There's
> a BBDISPLAY host which has the webpage & database, and then for anything
> other than basic monitoring (ping/services/etc) there's an agent that
> gets installed on the system to be monitored.  Maybe we have different
> definitions or something?
>
> Dave Hinz
>


The last time I looked at bb it ran shell scripts to collect data, and
the agent collected the data from them and sent it, as opposed to having
an agent that just collected the data and sent it.

I could not look too closely as at the time bb was still owned by its
creators, and I did not want to risk any copyright problems as I was
working on I/Watch and FogLight.

And I haven't looked since because I haven't had the time.

Cheers,
Gary	B-)

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On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 17:24:17 +1100, Gary Schmidt <Gary.Schmidt@oz.quest.com> wrote:
quote:

> Dave Hinz wrote: 
>
> The last time I looked at bb it ran shell scripts to collect data, and
> the agent collected the data from them and sent it, as opposed to having
> an agent that just collected the data and sent it.


It depends on what you're watching.  If you have a custom monitoring
need (say, query some process to make sure it's sane), then that's an
external script which you can write in whatever you'd like (deadcat.net
has dozens (hundreds?) of examples).  but, the bb agent that is
installed on the box then sends the info to the BBDISPLAY host
for logging, alerting, and display.
quote:

> I could not look too closely as at the time bb was still owned by its
> creators, and I did not want to risk any copyright problems as I was
> working on I/Watch and FogLight.


Ah, yeah, sometimes not studying the other product is appropriate in one's,
er, Quest for knowledge.

Dave Hinz

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On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 01:32:28 GMT, Scott Richardson <CheetahFTL@attbi.com> po
ured
into the usenet group comp.unix.admin:
> "Vigilance Monitoring" <no_spam@aracnet.com> wrote in message
> news:bvnqtk31bek@enews1.newsguy.com... 
Perhaps Nagios http://nagios.sourceforge.net/ in conjunction with net-snmp
(http://net-snmp.sourceforge.net) and OpenNMS http://www.opennms.org/ would
suffice for your needs?
<snip> 
I wouldn't use reliable and mysql in the same sentence, unless there is a
negation involved.

Devdas Bhagat

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"Devdas Bhagat" <devdas@users.sourceforge.net> wrote in message
news:slrnc3f5cq.hok.devdas@evita.devdas.geek...
> On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 01:32:28 GMT, Scott Richardson <CheetahFTL@attbi.com>
poured
> into the usenet group comp.unix.admin: 
> Perhaps Nagios http://nagios.sourceforge.net/ in conjunction with net-snmp
> (http://net-snmp.sourceforge.net) and OpenNMS http://www.opennms.org/
would
> suffice for your needs?
> <snip> 
> I wouldn't use reliable and mysql in the same sentence, unless there is a
> negation involved.
>
> Devdas Bhagat

Monitoring software?

DPMonitor. Performance Monitor, with Probes to test for condtions/situations
or thresholds and be able to take pre-programmed auto-responses, or actions
against such. www.deltek.us - Check out screen shots at Examples link on the
home page.

Scott

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"Devdas Bhagat" <devdas@users.sourceforge.net> wrote in message
news:slrnc3f5cq.hok.devdas@evita.devdas.geek...
> On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 01:32:28 GMT, Scott Richardson <CheetahFTL@attbi.com>
poured
> into the usenet group comp.unix.admin: 
> Perhaps Nagios http://nagios.sourceforge.net/ in conjunction with net-snmp
> (http://net-snmp.sourceforge.net) and OpenNMS http://www.opennms.org/
would
> suffice for your needs?
> <snip> 
> I wouldn't use reliable and mysql in the same sentence, unless there is a
> negation involved.
>
> Devdas Bhagat

Another suite of products to consider for sceurity would be from
www.open.com - Nerve Center, Security Threat Manager, SystemWatch, and Open
Management Console.

And yet another product to cosider is Argent (www.argent.com ...)

What are you specifically looking for in a monitoring product?

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