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    Wyse dumb terminals in Linux  
Jeff


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06-03-05 12:47 PM

I am trying to learn about Linux.

I have some left over old Wyse dumb terminals in my basement.  They were in
used in a Unix office system as a small network.

Can they also be similarly used to create a small network on a Linux system?
If so, would it be just a text interface or is Linux able to send it the
necessary signals for a graphic interface?

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    Re: Wyse dumb terminals in Linux  
Floyd L. Davidson


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06-03-05 10:53 PM

"Jeff" <jeff@falsepart.com> wrote:
>I am trying to learn about Linux.
>
>I have some left over old Wyse dumb terminals in my basement.  They were in
>used in a Unix office system as a small network.
>
>Can they also be similarly used to create a small network on a Linux system
?
>If so, would it be just a text interface or is Linux able to send it the
>necessary signals for a graphic interface?

Linux will do far more than the terminals will be capable of,
and in fact what the terminals will/won't do will be a major
problem.

Assuming these are RS-232 terminals, not Xterminals that have
ethernet connectivity, you need a serial port, with some form of
getty running on it, for each terminal.

Then, once you can login, you need to set the TERM variable to
match whatever these terminals actually are.  If they really are
"dumb terminals", you're out of luck because by definition that
means they don't do graphics... or even cursor motion!  But most
likely they aren't actually dumb terminals, just sort of stupid
ones... :-)

If they are typical Wyse terminals that are similar to VT100's,
most things will work just fine.  You'll find a few odd things
that Wyse does differently and any program that has hard coded
escape sequences (instead of using TERMINFO) will be a problem.
How much of a problem depends on the exact terminal and the
exact program.

Generally what all of that means is that you can run console
applications, and the graphics are what curses can do.  You can't
run X, and you won't get bitmapped graphics so anything that
displays images is not going to work.

Do "ls /usr/share/terminfo/w" to see the long list of 200+
TERMINFO definitions for various Wyse terminals...

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    Re: Wyse dumb terminals in Linux  
Bit Twister


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06-03-05 10:53 PM

On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 05:20:32 -0800, Floyd L. Davidson wrote:
>
> Do "ls /usr/share/terminfo/w" to see the long list of 200+
> TERMINFO definitions for various Wyse terminals...

That will depend on what Distribution of linux user runs on.

$ ls /usr/share/terminfo/*
/usr/share/terminfo/a:
ansi
/usr/share/terminfo/c:
console
/usr/share/terminfo/d:
dec-vt100  dumb
/usr/share/terminfo/l:
linux
/usr/share/terminfo/n:
nxterm
/usr/share/terminfo/r:
rxvt
/usr/share/terminfo/s:
screen  screen-w  sun-c  sun-cmd
/usr/share/terminfo/v:
vs100  vt100  vt100-am  vt102  vt200  vt220  vt300  vt320  vt420  vt510  vt5
2
/usr/share/terminfo/x:
xterm  xterm2  xterm-color  xterm-debian  xterms





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    Re: Wyse dumb terminals in Linux  
Floyd L. Davidson


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06-03-05 10:53 PM

Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 05:20:32 -0800, Floyd L. Davidson wrote: 
>
>That will depend on what Distribution of linux user runs on.

:-)

Of course, the fact is that virtually everything that's actually
useful, except perhaps the xfree versions of xterm, is in your
list.

>$ ls /usr/share/terminfo/*
>/usr/share/terminfo/a:
>ansi
>/usr/share/terminfo/c:
>console
>/usr/share/terminfo/d:
>dec-vt100  dumb
>/usr/share/terminfo/l:
>linux
>/usr/share/terminfo/n:
>nxterm
>/usr/share/terminfo/r:
>rxvt
>/usr/share/terminfo/s:
>screen  screen-w  sun-c  sun-cmd
>/usr/share/terminfo/v:
>vs100  vt100  vt100-am  vt102  vt200  vt220  vt300  vt320  vt420  vt510  vt
52
>/usr/share/terminfo/x:
>xterm  xterm2  xterm-color  xterm-debian  xterms

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    Re: Wyse dumb terminals in Linux  
Jeff


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06-03-05 10:53 PM

Thank you all very much.

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jeff@stevens.com



Bit Twister wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 05:20:32 -0800, Floyd L. Davidson wrote: 
>
> That will depend on what Distribution of linux user runs on.
>
> $ ls /usr/share/terminfo/*
> /usr/share/terminfo/a:
> ansi
> /usr/share/terminfo/c:
> console
> /usr/share/terminfo/d:
> dec-vt100  dumb
> /usr/share/terminfo/l:
> linux
> /usr/share/terminfo/n:
> nxterm
> /usr/share/terminfo/r:
> rxvt
> /usr/share/terminfo/s:
> screen  screen-w  sun-c  sun-cmd
> /usr/share/terminfo/v:
> vs100  vt100  vt100-am  vt102  vt200  vt220  vt300  vt320  vt420
> vt510  vt52 /usr/share/terminfo/x:
> xterm  xterm2  xterm-color  xterm-debian  xterms







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