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    Sept 3, 2001 WTC Post to this NG  
Mitch Monger


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06-11-05 12:45 PM

While searching the Google archives I came
across this post made to this NG on
Sept. 3, 2001 which bears reposting. It's
a classic.

...

Newsgroups: alt.computer.consultants,
alt.disasters.misc, comp.arch.storage
From: t...@panix.com (Thor Lancelot Simon)
Date: 3 Sep 2001 23:18:28 -0400
Local: Mon,Sep 3 2001 11:18 pm
Subject: Re: Disaster Stories Needed

Are you aware of any bombings of datacenters, by
the Unabomber or anyone else, in the United
States, in the past ten years?

How about twenty years?

How about ever?

The only thing I can think of that might qualify
would be to categorize someone's departmental
servers in the Trade Center as a "datacenter", but
that kind of scare tactic generally works only on
the foolish.

So, anyway, if I catch your drift, you're
suggesting that the thing to do in order to
persuade some tightfisted CIO to spring for
offsite backup is to drop off a copy of
Kaczinsky's manifesto on his desk.  That seems
like a *great* idea.  Why don't you try it and let
us all know how it works?

However, next time I'm trying to sell someone
something, myself, I think I'll pick an example
that he can actually relate to, like a flood or a
fire.  Maybe I'm just stupid.

...

In all fairness I must say that I've read many of
the writers other works on the net and he's a
very bright guy who usually gets it right.





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    Re: Sept 3, 2001 WTC Post to this NG  
Al Dykes


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06-11-05 10:46 PM

In article <fGyqe.98$983.25693@monger.newsread.com>,
Mitch Monger  <x@z.com> wrote:
>While searching the Google archives I came
>across this post made to this NG on
>Sept. 3, 2001 which bears reposting. It's
>a classic.
>
>...
>
>Newsgroups: alt.computer.consultants,
>alt.disasters.misc, comp.arch.storage
>From: t...@panix.com (Thor Lancelot Simon)
>Date: 3 Sep 2001 23:18:28 -0400
>Local: Mon,Sep 3 2001 11:18 pm
>Subject: Re: Disaster Stories Needed
>
>Are you aware of any bombings of datacenters, by
>the Unabomber or anyone else, in the United
>States, in the past ten years?
>
>How about twenty years?
>
>How about ever?
>
>The only thing I can think of that might qualify
>would be to categorize someone's departmental
>servers in the Trade Center as a "datacenter", but
>that kind of scare tactic generally works only on
>the foolish.
>
>So, anyway, if I catch your drift, you're
>suggesting that the thing to do in order to
>persuade some tightfisted CIO to spring for
>offsite backup is to drop off a copy of
>Kaczinsky's manifesto on his desk.  That seems
>like a *great* idea.  Why don't you try it and let
>us all know how it works?
>
>However, next time I'm trying to sell someone
>something, myself, I think I'll pick an example
>that he can actually relate to, like a flood or a
>fire.  Maybe I'm just stupid.
>
>...
>
>In all fairness I must say that I've read many of
>the writers other works on the net and he's a
>very bright guy who usually gets it right.


The guy clearly wasn't watching the news in the 60s and 70s.  The big
one was the computing center in Wisconsin (Madison?). It affexted
security of every compuer manufacturer and university involved with
defense work, or even close.

Up to 1970 severalmainframe manufacturers (Noneywell, RCA and others)
had street-level showcase datacenters with big windows on the street.
They immediatly put up curtains and then relocated.



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    Re: Sept 3, 2001 WTC Post to this NG  
Michael C#


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06-12-05 07:45 AM

>>Are you aware of any bombings of datacenters, by 

<<snip>>
[vbcol=seagreen]
> The guy clearly wasn't watching the news in the 60s and 70s.  The big
> one was the computing center in Wisconsin (Madison?). It affexted
> security of every compuer manufacturer and university involved with
> defense work, or even close.
>
> Up to 1970 severalmainframe manufacturers (Noneywell, RCA and others)
> had street-level showcase datacenters with big windows on the street.
> They immediatly put up curtains and then relocated.

I was recently reading about an incident where the IRA bombed a bank in
England back in the day.  Turned out a bunch of old backups in one of the
employee's garages saved the day.

Reading that old post was almost surreal...







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