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James Silverton


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06-25-05 10:47 PM

Hello, All!

I have used Linux since the early 90s starting with a failure of
an early version of RedHat (the CD with the rather pathetic bat
on it!) and a successful installation of Slackware 2.1. However,
even if I have a complete set of the Linux Journal, there has
been a hiatus of a few years.

I recently began to refamiliarize myself with using Linux via
the latest Knoppix. It was quite remarkable how all my hardware
including a USB external hard disc, a cable modem and a wireless
keyboard and mouse were recognized and configured without manual
intervention. There is an option to install Knoppix to a hard
disc and produce essentially a Debian installation. Has anyone
any comments on doing  this? I am particularly interested in
whether the hardware recognition is preserved.

TIA

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland, USA






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    Re: Debian from Knoppix  
Roby


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06-25-05 10:47 PM

James Silverton wrote:

> Hello, All!
>
> I have used Linux since the early 90s starting with a failure of
> an early version of RedHat (the CD with the rather pathetic bat
> on it!) and a successful installation of Slackware 2.1. However,
> even if I have a complete set of the Linux Journal, there has
> been a hiatus of a few years.
>
> I recently began to refamiliarize myself with using Linux via
> the latest Knoppix. It was quite remarkable how all my hardware
> including a USB external hard disc, a cable modem and a wireless
> keyboard and mouse were recognized and configured without manual
> intervention. There is an option to install Knoppix to a hard
> disc and produce essentially a Debian installation. Has anyone
> any comments on doing  this? I am particularly interested in
> whether the hardware recognition is preserved.
>
> TIA
>
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland, USA

I have done hard disk installs from Kanotix live-cd's on three machines.
All went extremely well and hardware detection was preserved.  Kanotix uses
"Knoppix technology", so I would expect the same sort of magic there.

Remarkable, isn't it?

Roby





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    Re: Debian from Knoppix  
Al. C


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06-25-05 10:47 PM

James Silverton wrote:

> There is an option to install Knoppix to a hard
> disc and produce essentially a Debian installation. Has anyone
> any comments on doing  this? I am particularly interested in
> whether the hardware recognition is preserved.

Knoppix was designed to be run from the CD and not as a 'final install' ....
although you CAN install it and it does not run too badly. People say it is
slow... and it was for me as well.

My suggestion is that you get Mepis (www.mepis.org) which is also a live CD
but which was designed to be installed and run as a 'regular' distro. It is
based on Debian and has the same hardware recognition ability as Knoppix,
maybe better. I've been using it for the past 5 months, have really pounded
it, and it keeps on going. Very impressive.

If you like a Gnome look and feel, you can join the crowds and try Ubuntu...
another install from live CD distro. I like Mepis as it is less patched
than Ubuntu, I like KDE better, and Mepis 'more Debian' in my opinion.
YMMV.

Try them all and find one YOU like... Mepis, Knoppix, K/Ubuntu, Kanotix,
Zen, etc. Choice is good.

Al C.
Adams-Blake Company, Inc
Your office on the web:
http://www.jaya123.com








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    Re: Debian from Knoppix  
DarbyCrash


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06-25-05 10:47 PM

James Silverton wrote:
> Hello, All!
>
> I have used Linux since the early 90s starting with a failure of an
> early version of RedHat (the CD with the rather pathetic bat on it!) and
> a successful installation of Slackware 2.1. However, even if I have a
> complete set of the Linux Journal, there has been a hiatus of a few years.
>
> I recently began to refamiliarize myself with using Linux via the latest
> Knoppix. It was quite remarkable how all my hardware including a USB
> external hard disc, a cable modem and a wireless keyboard and mouse were
> recognized and configured without manual intervention. There is an
> option to install Knoppix to a hard disc and produce essentially a
> Debian installation. Has anyone any comments on doing  this? I am
> particularly interested in whether the hardware recognition is preserved.
>
> TIA
>
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland, USA
`
Knoppix is based off Debian, you can always just install it from a
Debian CD. hardware detection is a standard feature on Debian now, you
should get the same hardware support as your Knoppix distro.

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    Re: Debian from Knoppix  
David Van Mosselbeen


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06-25-05 10:47 PM

James Silverton wrote:

> Hello, All!
>
> I have used Linux since the early 90s starting with a failure of
> an early version of RedHat (the CD with the rather pathetic bat
> on it!) and a successful installation of Slackware 2.1. However,
> even if I have a complete set of the Linux Journal, there has
> been a hiatus of a few years.
>
> I recently began to refamiliarize myself with using Linux via
> the latest Knoppix. It was quite remarkable how all my hardware
> including a USB external hard disc, a cable modem and a wireless
> keyboard and mouse were recognized and configured without manual
> intervention. There is an option to install Knoppix to a hard
> disc and produce essentially a Debian installation. Has anyone
> any comments on doing  this? I am particularly interested in
> whether the hardware recognition is preserved.
>
> TIA
>
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland, USA

I do not how many time i use GNU/Linux because it's al time ago when i have
begin, and i have do many test to the diferent distribution.The most where
'Live CD' = No install, no to complicated (for beginners) and it's really
fun. My favorite whas Knoppix and Red Hat with hardware detection .
Little time ago i have found the 'Debian Sarge' distribution. The most
important things of it is that i really love it (also other peoples would
love this or begin to love it) It's to ... using Debian. Personaly i find
that Debian is the BEST operating system for my. Because Debian have +-
15.000 packages. Al what you needed and the most people to run a computer
with alternatife FREE software and the BEST STUFF. If there are an
particulate program that you search and these not avalaible ont the
+-15.000 packages, no problem compile it or find some *.deb files.
I will yust insist that Debian are really good, nice and fine.


--
David Van Mosselbeen - DVM
http://dvm.zapto.org:3333
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    Re: Debian from Knoppix  
seeds


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06-25-05 10:47 PM

On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:44:24 +0000, Al. C wrote:

> James Silverton wrote:
> 
>
> Knoppix was designed to be run from the CD and not as a 'final install' ..
.
> although you CAN install it and it does not run too badly. People say it i
s
> slow... and it was for me as well.
>
> My suggestion is that you get Mepis (www.mepis.org) which is also a live C
D
> but which was designed to be installed and run as a 'regular' distro. It i
s
> based on Debian and has the same hardware recognition ability as Knoppix,
> maybe better. I've been using it for the past 5 months, have really pounde
d
> it, and it keeps on going. Very impressive.
>
> If you like a Gnome look and feel, you can join the crowds and try Ubuntu.
.
> another install from live CD distro. I like Mepis as it is less patched
> than Ubuntu, I like KDE better, and Mepis 'more Debian' in my opinion.
> YMMV.
>
> Try them all and find one YOU like... Mepis, Knoppix, K/Ubuntu, Kanotix,
> Zen, etc. Choice is good.
>
> Al C.
> Adams-Blake Company, Inc
> Your office on the web:
> http://www.jaya123.com
i am using mepis and i gotta say it is real good. i wanted to try sarge
but i really like mepis. gonna stick with it for now.






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