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    Question about Microsoft's Format command  
yukuan


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06-25-05 10:47 PM

Are a disk's bad sectors marked while formatting?






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Ron Reaugh


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"yukuan" <yukuan.jiang@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Are a disk's bad sectors marked while formatting?

The simple answer is yes. But I suspect you need to ask a more precise
question.   What do you have in mind when you say "bad sectors marked "?







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yukuan


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06-25-05 10:47 PM

I means it recording which sector is bad in the FAT, while formatting
with fat16, fat32 etc.






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Ron Reaugh


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"yukuan" <yukuan.jiang@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I means it recording which sector is bad in the FAT, while formatting
> with fat16, fat32 etc.

In general on a modern HD there should be no bad sectors.







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yukuan


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06-25-05 10:47 PM

How about the virtual HD, flash pendrive?






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    Re: Question about Microsoft's Format command  
Maxim S. Shatskih


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06-25-05 10:47 PM

Yes. FORMAT is who creates the new empty FS volume, the bad blocks are
marked during this.

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"yukuan" <yukuan.jiang@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Are a disk's bad sectors marked while formatting?
>







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    Re: Question about Microsoft's Format command  
yukuan


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06-26-05 07:45 AM

THX all you for these response.
I still have some questions:
How does FORMAT decide that a block is bad?
Does It use the procedure of write, read and compare.
or just decide bad block via got a action-fail message from the
storage's controller?






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Ron Reaugh


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"yukuan" <yukuan.jiang@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> THX all you for these response.
> I still have some questions:
> How does FORMAT decide that a block is bad?

Writes it and sees if it can be read.

> Does It use the procedure of write, read and compare.

Right but I don't think there's a compare.

> or just decide bad block via got a action-fail message from the
> storage's controller?

That happens on a write fail and a read fail.  The read fail is the usual
case.







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    Re: Question about Microsoft's Format command  
yukuan


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06-26-05 07:45 AM

Still,
during the lifetime after FORMAT, what's going on if the storage gets
new bad blocks?
Will these bad blocks be recorded?






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Ron Reaugh


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"yukuan" <yukuan.jiang@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Still,
> during the lifetime after FORMAT, what's going on if the storage gets
> new bad blocks?

Mostly the drive detects a block going bad before it's completely
unreadable.  The drive flaws(replaces it with a good one) the sector and you
never see a thing.  Occasionally if the sector goes bad while it's holding
file data then the file will become unreadable and the sector show up as a
visible bad sector.  When many visible bad sectors start showing then the
drive is likely about to die.

> Will these bad blocks be recorded?

"recorded"?







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