I am new to Portal and am trying to understand some concepts, esp. Portal's 
relationship to LDAP....

Using straight defaults, I installed Portal 5.1.0.1, Full Install, on a sing
le Intel/Red Hat box using only 5 disk sets:
Setup Disc C82XSML.zip
Disc 1-3 C814IML.taz
Disc 4-2 C82WFML.taz
Disc 5-2 C82WMML.taz
Disc 5-4 C82WPML.taz

The whole install consumed 2.1 GB of hard disk space.

Everything works great, but my questions are

When I create users and groups, and when I authorize them access to various 
pages or portlets, where is this information stored in (given my simplistic 
and default installation)?
Am I correct in saying that these are all stored in a Cloudscape database so
mewhere?
Am I correct too in saying that in my case, there is *no* LDAP involved?
If I decided to use a supported LDAP (TDS, eDirectory, SunOne etc), am I cor
rect in saying that all the users, groups, and authorization information wou
ld then be stored in the LDAP?

Thanks!

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See answers below ...

Maik

lynwgnr@yahoo.com wrote:
> I am new to Portal and am trying to understand some concepts, esp. Portal'
s relationship to LDAP....
>
> Using straight defaults, I installed Portal 5.1.0.1, Full Install, on a si
ngle Intel/Red Hat box using only 5 disk sets:
> Setup Disc C82XSML.zip
> Disc 1-3 C814IML.taz
> Disc 4-2 C82WFML.taz
> Disc 5-2 C82WMML.taz
> Disc 5-4 C82WPML.taz
>
> The whole install consumed 2.1 GB of hard disk space.
>
> Everything works great, but my questions are
>
> When I create users and groups, and when I authorize them access to various pages 
or portlets, where is this information stored in (given my simplistic and default in
stallation)?

In the cloudscape database ...

> Am I correct in saying that these are all stored in a Cloudscape database somewher
e?

Yes, you are.

> Am I correct too in saying that in my case, there is *no* LDAP involved?

Yes, this is a seperate configuration step.

> If I decided to use a supported LDAP (TDS, eDirectory, SunOne etc), am I correct i
n saying that all the users, groups, and authorization information would then be sto
red in the LDAP?

No, you have to import them by yourself.

>
> Thanks!
>

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After switching to an LDAP, does that mean the cloudscape database is not us
ed in any way at all?

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The cloudscape database is not used, you are right.

Maik

lynwgnr@yahoo.com wrote:
> After switching to an LDAP, does that mean the cloudscape database is not used in 
any way at all?

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It is not true that when using LDAP a DB is not used.

LDAP or the DB can function as the user registry, but WPS still stores
information into its db.

Scott

"Maik Weber" <maikweber@de.ibm.com> wrote in message
news:dcr8n0$5lbi$1@news.boulder.ibm.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
> The cloudscape database is not used, you are right.
>
> Maik
>
> lynwgnr@yahoo.com wrote: 

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Ok, I just read the first post again. Sorry, I mixed something.

So, LDAP is only used as User repository, so, it stores user information
(e.g. name, uid, password, mail, telephone). In a default installation
of Portal, no LDAP is used. All these user information are stored in the
cloudscape database. If you switch Portal to use an LDAP (e.g. IBM
Tivoli Directory Server), then this is the User repository. Portal still
needs a database, that right. But it does not use cloudscape as the User
repository. The database is needed for information about which
pages/portlets exists, and which access rights a user has to that
pages/portlets (and some more information). For this, of course, the uid
of the user is stored in the database (for lookup and mapping) -- but
not more.

Maik


Scott A. Roehrig wrote:
> It is not true that when using LDAP a DB is not used.
>
> LDAP or the DB can function as the user registry, but WPS still stores
> information into its db.
>
> Scott
>
> "Maik Weber" <maikweber@de.ibm.com> wrote in message
> news:dcr8n0$5lbi$1@news.boulder.ibm.com...
> 
>
>
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