Hi,
there is the possibility to mark mails via the list archive
web interface as spam. Is there a possibility to do this via
a mail gateway with the message id?
regards nico

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I do not know, wheter it is possibel for Debian, but I am using
fetchmail on my FileServer where I have courier-imap to read the
mesages.

I have made a mutt-macro and a little BASH script which send the
message back to my FileServer whose rescan the message automaticly
as SPAM.

I think, there is no problem to extract the Message-Id: and send
it back to the list server.  The only problem is, that it works
only for mutt(-ng).

Greetings
Michelle


Am 2005-08-04 12:29:57, schrieb Nico Golde:
> Hi,
> there is the possibility to mark mails via the list archive
> web interface as spam. Is there a possibility to do this via
> a mail gateway with the message id?
> regards nico
> 
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> and the one in which it doesn't -- encrypted mail preferred
> 
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Hello Michelle,

* Michelle Konzack <linux4michelle@freenet.de> [2005-08-04 12:48]:
> Am 2005-08-04 12:29:57, schrieb Nico Golde: 
>
> I do not know, wheter it is possibel for Debian, but I am using
> fetchmail on my FileServer where I have courier-imap to read the
> mesages.
>
> I have made a mutt-macro and a little BASH script which send the
> message back to my FileServer whose rescan the message automaticly
> as SPAM.

I know, I use local spam filters too, but thats not what I
meant.

> I think, there is no problem to extract the Message-Id: and send
> it back to the list server.  The only problem is, that it works
> only for mutt(-ng).

It shouldn't be a problem for other mail clients too to read
the msgid out from the mail header.
Regards Nico
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On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 12:29:57PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote:
> Hi,
> there is the possibility to mark mails via the list archive
> web interface as spam. Is there a possibility to do this via
> a mail gateway with the message id?
> regards nico

I wonder, what does the web interface do at all? I have reported
lots of spam (I reviewed all of July) but the spam is still there
in the mailing list archives.

:-?

Javier

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Hi,
* Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <jfs@computer.org> [2005-08-04 19:08]:
> On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 12:29:57PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: 
> 
> I wonder, what does the web interface do at all? I have reported
> lots of spam (I reviewed all of July) but the spam is still there
> in the mailing list archives.

If I understood it correctly it reports the mail only as
possible spam. Maybe it requires manual review?
Regards Nico
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On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 07:47:18PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> 
> And yes, I expect that all messages reported will need to be manually 
> reviewed to avoid deleting good mails from the archive.

It would be cool if we could create a spam-reporting alias similar to what
Spamcop does that would make it easy to report through e-mail (in Mutt
I have a shortcut to do just that). To prevent abuse, and to make it work in
 
a more semi-automatic way, maybe it could allow only GPG signed mails from 
developers and work only if more than two developers reported the same 
Message-ID. 

The problem with the web interface is that it lacks authentication, so you
cannot "trust me" more than you can trust average joe even though I've make
every effort to report only legitimate spam (something "average Joe" might
not do). If the spam reporting tool where to be developed through a mail
interface with GPG that would make automatic fixing of archives easier. 
It could also allow reporting spam to the BTS easier too.

Just my few cents.

Javier

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On 20050804T200629+0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 07:47:18PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: 
> 
> It would be cool if we could create a spam-reporting alias

I seem to remember that we have (had?) one, back in the days when spam
was counted in single digits per day.  I have no idea if it still
exists, or what it was called.

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On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 08:06:29PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 07:47:18PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: 
> 
> It would be cool if we could create a spam-reporting alias similar to what
> Spamcop does that would make it easy to report through e-mail (in Mutt
> I have a shortcut to do just that). To prevent abuse, and to make it worki
n 
> a more semi-automatic way, maybe it could allow only GPG signed mails from
 
> developers and work only if more than two developers reported the same 
> Message-ID. 
> 
> The problem with the web interface is that it lacks authentication, so you
> cannot "trust me" more than you can trust average joe even though I've mak
e
> every effort to report only legitimate spam (something "average Joe" might
> not do). If the spam reporting tool where to be developed through a mail
> interface with GPG that would make automatic fixing of archives easier. 
> It could also allow reporting spam to the BTS easier too.
> 
> Just my few cents.
> 

I like.

regards

Andrew

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